Skip to comments.The EPA reports more lost emails as the House Oversight chair threatens contempt of Congress
Posted on 06/25/2014 5:21:48 PM PDT by Haiku Guy
If a certain fecal matter had been the only instance of disrepute revealed from within the ranks of the Environmental Protection Agency today, that would have been more than enough; alas it wasnt.
The environmental agency is having trouble locating emails belonging to a former agency employee and pulling information from his crashed hard drive, House members revealed Wednesday while questioning Administrator Gina McCarthy at a hearing on complaints of mismanagement.
What is it with bureaucrats and public employees the hard drives crash? asked Rep. Kerry Bentivolio (R-Mich.).
He and others on the Oversight and Government Reform Committee questioned McCarthy about missing information related to the committees investigation into the potential environmental impact of a proposed gold and copper mine in the Bristol Bay watershed in Alaska. McCarthy kept insisting throughout the hearing that were having trouble getting information off of it and are trying different ways...
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This "crashed" hard drive should be sitting on a shelf at EPA HQ. If it is not there, and the rest of the hard drives are, this will be further proof, as if more was necessary, that the Administration is intentionally destroying evidence in the face of Congressional subpoenas.
Contempt of congress?
Who doesn’t have contempt for congress?
In other words: nothing that would catch the interest of the media.
Computer “crashes” are happening all over the land of the most transparent government. LOL! Wake up America! We don’t have very much longer before it’s going to be too late!
5 frigging years with the same laptop.
Dual hard drives.
8 Years with another one of my computers.
Dual Hard drives.
14 years with my server.
Dual hard drives.
I must be living right.
Wow, what are the odds. What bad luck.
In the next weeks or months at most Congress Reps/Senate needs to step up their game. Otherwise they will become as impotent as the senate became in the start of the Roman Empire. It is not that hard to see how things have been done that way before.
As with the IRS, these e-mails are public property; even if they were private law firms, their clients would be entitled to copies.
The EPA sees this strategy working over at the IRS, so they figure they’ll `rinse and repeat.’
This is government arrogance on stilts, thinking they can get away with it.
Terminate a few SES drones—with loss of pensions—and we’ll see government worker bees calling Issa offering to supply everything and more that he requests.
The DEMOCRAT PARTY is a CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE!!!
The Dems are SO used to their constituents being so STUPID, they think we are ALL STUPID!!!!
How much you wanna bet that if even a quarter of these “crashes” are true - it’s because of all the viruses that were picked up from porno sites?
Threaten, nothing. In the words of a fellow who is on my mind today, “If you have to shoot, shoot. Don’ talk.”
I’ve been playing with computers since 1973.
Have had two drive crashes. First was in 1984, a Fujitsu 158MB (that’s right MEGAbyte) drive that had three 14” platters. Drive and power supply weighed 150 lbs. Second was in 1990, a 150MB full height EDSI drive in the first PC I owned.
I don’t know how many hours the Fuji drive had on it. Thousands and thousands I suspect. The EDSI drive was about six years old when it crashed.
I have Western Digital drives in my home system that are eight years old and have outlived several computers.
This crap with the IRS and the EPA is a bunch of crap. Subpoena the IT gurus and get it over with.
Maybe the arrestable offense should now be “gullible respect of Congress”.
Anybody who addresses them as “The Honorable xxxx” should be arrested immediately for criminal gullibility.
WD bump :)
All I use. Mostly RE4s and some older RE3s. Really old drives are Caviar drives from way back.
Let me get this straight; they have e-mails Snowden sent 15 years ago, perhaps every e-mail he has ever sent and the US gov can’t keep track of theirs?
I got a stack of em sitting on a shelf collecting dust. I oughta fire 'em up to see if they still work.
There is no such charge as “contempt of Congress” unless there is a padded cell available with which to house these Slave Party thugs until they squeal.
I have had various computers since 1998 and only had
a hard drive crash last month after six years of continuous
use. This whole thing stinks of cover-up.
Right now she’s lucky irate Americans aren’t dragging
her out to a lamp post.
I bet they are quaking in their boots over at the EPA.
“The DEMOCRAT PARTY is a CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE!!!”
“The Dems are SO used to their constituents being so STUPID, they think we are ALL STUPID!!!!”
Absolutely, and the Democrats may be cunning, resourceful, but they too are just as stupid by thinking everybody else is stupid, but themselves. In the end IF we don’t get them first they will do themselves in with their stupid arrogance, and overreaching.
Really . . . and exactly what teeth does contempt of Congress have? Lerner is in contempt - and she is still walking around free and not in a cage and fettered. In fact, contempt of a Republican congress is but a badge of honour to these pukes.
Personally I’ve had more WD drives fail than any other. Including Maxtor. Seagate’s seem to like me better.
Wow - I've always had problems with Seagates...oh well...different strokes...;-)
You have EPA people taking a dump in the halls. Email security must not be high on their priority list.
Or, they just lie. And squat.
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, commonly referred to as the RICO Act or simply RICO, is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization. The RICO Act focuses specifically on racketeering, and it allows the leaders of a syndicate to be tried for the crimes which they ordered others to do or assisted them.
So is Holder.
Holder wears his contempt on his sleeve like a Nazi armband.
Congress is contemptuous.
I’ve never seen a more disgusting group of people.
If Congress does start to exercise its authority it will lose the remainder of its significance.
Start locking people up!
There are jail cells under the capital.
Irs and Epa are criminal enterprises and need to got rid of.
Hasn’t anyone in the federal government heard of a HD backup
Ha, Ha, Catch us if you can.
The government has become a criminal enterprise and is at war with it's citizens.
In the case of contempt, Congress began early in its history to protect its ability to compel testimony to it by private citizens and executive officials by arresting and jailing in the Capitol those who refused to cooperate. The first case dates to 1795. The Supreme Court in 1821, in Anderson v. Dunn, recognized Congress inherent power but noted that the power was limited to the least power adequate to the end proposed, and the court limited imprisonment, saying it could not last beyond the adjournment of Congress. Congress passed a statute in 1857 to allow longer terms of imprisonment as well as allowing it to turn contempt cases over to the courts for indictment and trial, with penalties including fines of not more than $1,000 nor less than $100″ and imprisonment in a common jail of not less than one month nor more than twelve months.
And here is the red flag:
The practice in the 20th century, at least, has been to turn cases over to the Justice Department to handle and allow the courts to intervene if the case involved a tension between legislative and executive prerogatives; 1934 was the last time Congress used its inherent power and handled the prosecution of a contempt case itself.
Jail times and massive fines.
Contempt of Congress” charges???
I believe most of not ALL government agencies are required, by law. to have a system in place to archive and retrieve all electronic/data communications for many years...IIRC
So if they (an agency) has failed to do so, those who are accountable for the data/information should already be changing clothes...
You know, orange IS the new black...
Seems a reasonable expectation...These contempt of Congress charges and the threat to implement them are empty of substance...
Sure does make for some compelling narratives, that pass for news these days...
If I had a hard drive
I'd crash it in the morning
I'd crash it in the evening
Just to cover my hide
I'd wipe out E-mails
I'd wipe out surfed websites
I'd wipe out embarrassment to my political party
All over this land.
If I had a lie
I'd tell it in the morning
I'd tell it in the evening
while under oath
I'd lie about corruption
I'd lie about tyranny
I'd lie about the well laid snare to undermine all freedoms
all over this land
If I ran an agency
I'd abuse it in the morning
I'd abuse it in the evening all over this land
I'd wipe out freedom
I'd wipe out Bill Of Rights
I'd wipe out all opposition orgs
all over this land.
If I had corruption
I'd spread it in the morning
I'd spread it in the evening
all over this land
I'd pay off the congress
I'd pay off judges, I'd pay off the media
I pay off all DA's all over this land.
I had to vent somehow. Yelling would upset my dogs. LOL.
If it was official business there’s a good chance there are email CC and BCC distributions that may appear on other drives within the department, as well as the original recipient, whoever it was.
If the “crashed” hard drive still exists, a forensic examination would show what caused it to crash and when.
If the drive does not exist, but every other drive in the Agency has been preserved, that would be proof of a willing effort to destroy evidence.
Either way, somebody is going to be in a lot of trouble.
I may harbor contempt for certain members of congress but not of “congress”. For congress is the voice of the people... we lose that, we lose all. So hold your nose for the stinky ones and support those who are trying to bring light onto the corruption.
Our dear reader will forever be known in my mind as “Smidgens”
I will not ever hold my nose for stinky ones again.
And in congress, they all stink.
You can hold your nose if you want to, I’m not going to.
That is exactly how we have lost all already.
How many emails is the equivalent of 12 minutes of lost tape?
Failure to do his work is not a crime. It is a cause for dismissal - but that's nothing, compared to conviction of many influential people.
At most one can allege criminal conspiracy and obstruction of justice... but those charges also need proof. If all interested parties clam up, there isn't much that the law can do - assuming that the law is interested in doing anything.
I guess you misread my post or have no reading comprehension.