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The EPA reports more lost emails as the House Oversight chair threatens contempt of Congress
Hot Air ^ | 6/24/14 | ERIKA JOHNSEN

Posted on 06/25/2014 5:21:48 PM PDT by Haiku Guy

If a certain fecal matter had been the only instance of disrepute revealed from within the ranks of the Environmental Protection Agency today, that would have been more than enough; alas… it wasn’t.

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The environmental agency is having trouble locating emails belonging to a former agency employee and pulling information from his crashed hard drive, House members revealed Wednesday while questioning Administrator Gina McCarthy at a hearing on complaints of mismanagement.

“What is it with bureaucrats and public employees … the hard drives crash?” asked Rep. Kerry Bentivolio (R-Mich.).

He and others on the Oversight and Government Reform Committee questioned McCarthy about missing information related to the committee’s investigation into the potential environmental impact of a proposed gold and copper mine in the Bristol Bay watershed in Alaska. McCarthy kept insisting throughout the hearing that “we’re having trouble getting information off of it and are trying different ways”...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: destroyedevidence; epascandal; howconvenient; obamacrimes; partisanwitchhunt
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What this article does not say is that the Environmental Protection Agency has been required to physically remove and store every hard drive from every machine removed from service since the Carol Browner email fiasco of 2008.

This "crashed" hard drive should be sitting on a shelf at EPA HQ. If it is not there, and the rest of the hard drives are, this will be further proof, as if more was necessary, that the Administration is intentionally destroying evidence in the face of Congressional subpoenas.

1 posted on 06/25/2014 5:21:48 PM PDT by Haiku Guy
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To: Haiku Guy

Contempt of congress?

Who doesn’t have contempt for congress?


2 posted on 06/25/2014 5:22:57 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Haiku Guy
this will be further proof, as if more was necessary, that the Administration is intentionally destroying evidence in the face of Congressional subpoenas.

In other words: nothing that would catch the interest of the media.

3 posted on 06/25/2014 5:23:14 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: Haiku Guy

Computer “crashes” are happening all over the land of the most transparent government. LOL! Wake up America! We don’t have very much longer before it’s going to be too late!


4 posted on 06/25/2014 5:25:08 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Feed the wacko enrviromentalists to the starving polar bears.)
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To: Haiku Guy

5 frigging years with the same laptop.

Dual hard drives.

No failures.

8 Years with another one of my computers.

Dual Hard drives.

No failures.

14 years with my server.

Dual hard drives.

No failures.

I must be living right.


5 posted on 06/25/2014 5:29:12 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: Haiku Guy

Wow, what are the odds. What bad luck.


6 posted on 06/25/2014 5:30:51 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: chris37

In the next weeks or months at most Congress Reps/Senate needs to step up their game. Otherwise they will become as impotent as the senate became in the start of the Roman Empire. It is not that hard to see how things have been done that way before.


7 posted on 06/25/2014 5:31:36 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: Haiku Guy

As with the IRS, these e-mails are public property; even if they were private law firms, their clients would be entitled to copies.
The EPA sees this strategy working over at the IRS, so they figure they’ll `rinse and repeat.’
This is government arrogance on stilts, thinking they can get away with it.
Terminate a few SES drones—with loss of pensions—and we’ll see government worker bees calling Issa offering to supply everything and more that he requests.


8 posted on 06/25/2014 5:32:17 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Haiku Guy
BUILD A BIGGER FEDERAL PRISON for these CRIMINALS

The DEMOCRAT PARTY is a CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE!!!

The Dems are SO used to their constituents being so STUPID, they think we are ALL STUPID!!!!

9 posted on 06/25/2014 5:33:58 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: TomServo

How much you wanna bet that if even a quarter of these “crashes” are true - it’s because of all the viruses that were picked up from porno sites?


10 posted on 06/25/2014 5:36:17 PM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: Haiku Guy

11 posted on 06/25/2014 5:36:36 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Haiku Guy
I think it's time they subpoenaed the hard drive itself.
12 posted on 06/25/2014 5:37:56 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Haiku Guy

Threaten, nothing. In the words of a fellow who is on my mind today, “If you have to shoot, shoot. Don’ talk.”


13 posted on 06/25/2014 5:39:40 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: TomServo

BUMP!

I’ve been playing with computers since 1973.

Have had two drive crashes. First was in 1984, a Fujitsu 158MB (that’s right MEGAbyte) drive that had three 14” platters. Drive and power supply weighed 150 lbs. Second was in 1990, a 150MB full height EDSI drive in the first PC I owned.

I don’t know how many hours the Fuji drive had on it. Thousands and thousands I suspect. The EDSI drive was about six years old when it crashed.

I have Western Digital drives in my home system that are eight years old and have outlived several computers.

This crap with the IRS and the EPA is a bunch of crap. Subpoena the IT gurus and get it over with.


14 posted on 06/25/2014 5:39:47 PM PDT by upchuck (Everyday, Joe Wilson becomes more correct!)
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To: chris37

Maybe the arrestable offense should now be “gullible respect of Congress”.

Anybody who addresses them as “The Honorable xxxx” should be arrested immediately for criminal gullibility.

lol


15 posted on 06/25/2014 5:42:04 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: upchuck
Western Digital drives..

WD Rocks.

16 posted on 06/25/2014 5:45:58 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: TomServo

WD bump :)

All I use. Mostly RE4s and some older RE3s. Really old drives are Caviar drives from way back.

Consistent excellence.


17 posted on 06/25/2014 5:49:58 PM PDT by upchuck (Everyday, Joe Wilson becomes more correct!)
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To: Haiku Guy

Let me get this straight; they have e-mails Snowden sent 15 years ago, perhaps every e-mail he has ever sent and the US gov can’t keep track of theirs?


18 posted on 06/25/2014 5:50:30 PM PDT by rey
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To: upchuck
Caviar drives from way back.

I got a stack of em sitting on a shelf collecting dust. I oughta fire 'em up to see if they still work.

19 posted on 06/25/2014 5:55:55 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: Haiku Guy

There is no such charge as “contempt of Congress” unless there is a padded cell available with which to house these Slave Party thugs until they squeal.


20 posted on 06/25/2014 5:56:25 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: upchuck

I have had various computers since 1998 and only had
a hard drive crash last month after six years of continuous
use. This whole thing stinks of cover-up.

Right now she’s lucky irate Americans aren’t dragging
her out to a lamp post.


21 posted on 06/25/2014 6:01:21 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Haiku Guy
the House Oversight chair threatens contempt of Congress

I bet they are quaking in their boots over at the EPA.

22 posted on 06/25/2014 6:14:16 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Ann Archy

“The DEMOCRAT PARTY is a CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE!!!”

“The Dems are SO used to their constituents being so STUPID, they think we are ALL STUPID!!!!”

Absolutely, and the Democrats may be cunning, resourceful, but they too are just as stupid by thinking everybody else is stupid, but themselves. In the end IF we don’t get them first they will do themselves in with their stupid arrogance, and overreaching.


23 posted on 06/25/2014 6:15:26 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: chris37

Really . . . and exactly what teeth does contempt of Congress have? Lerner is in contempt - and she is still walking around free and not in a cage and fettered. In fact, contempt of a Republican congress is but a badge of honour to these pukes.


24 posted on 06/25/2014 6:16:09 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: TomServo

Personally I’ve had more WD drives fail than any other. Including Maxtor. Seagate’s seem to like me better.


25 posted on 06/25/2014 6:17:50 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead
Seagate’s seem to like me better.

Wow - I've always had problems with Seagates...oh well...different strokes...;-)

26 posted on 06/25/2014 6:18:56 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: Haiku Guy
This is happening all due to the GOPe. No Dem is afraid of them.
27 posted on 06/25/2014 6:24:31 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Haiku Guy

You have EPA people taking a dump in the halls. Email security must not be high on their priority list.

Or, they just lie. And squat.


28 posted on 06/25/2014 6:29:20 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Haiku Guy
We need to identify the Democratic Party as a Criminal Syndicate and implement the RICO act.

Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, commonly referred to as the RICO Act or simply RICO, is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization. The RICO Act focuses specifically on racketeering, and it allows the leaders of a syndicate to be tried for the crimes which they ordered others to do or assisted them.

29 posted on 06/25/2014 6:35:42 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

So is Holder.

Holder wears his contempt on his sleeve like a Nazi armband.

Congress is contemptuous.

I’ve never seen a more disgusting group of people.


30 posted on 06/25/2014 6:36:31 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Haiku Guy

If Congress does start to exercise its authority it will lose the remainder of its significance.
Start locking people up!


31 posted on 06/25/2014 6:55:58 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Carry_Okie

There are jail cells under the capital.


32 posted on 06/25/2014 6:57:31 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: TomServo

Irs and Epa are criminal enterprises and need to got rid of.


33 posted on 06/25/2014 7:03:15 PM PDT by ully2
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To: Pilgrim's Progress
Really . . . and exactly what teeth does contempt of Congress have? Lerner is in contempt - and she is still walking around free and not in a cage and fettered. In fact, contempt of a Republican congress is but a badge of honour to these pukes.

And of course Holder too.
34 posted on 06/25/2014 7:05:37 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: Haiku Guy

Hasn’t anyone in the federal government heard of a HD backup


35 posted on 06/25/2014 7:08:03 PM PDT by sharkhawk (Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall.)
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To: Haiku Guy
Democrats are laughing the butts off at the incompetent Republicans.

Ha, Ha, Catch us if you can.

The government has become a criminal enterprise and is at war with it's citizens.

36 posted on 06/25/2014 7:39:45 PM PDT by blam
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To: RedMDer; philman_36
According to these leftist loons seeking to jail Carl Rove, Harriet Miers, and Josh Bolten,

Yes, there are jail cells in the Capitol Complex, and they once used quite frequently, according to congressional expert Norm Ornstein:

In the case of contempt, Congress began early in its history to protect its ability to compel testimony to it by private citizens and executive officials by arresting and jailing — in the Capitol — those who refused to cooperate. The first case dates to 1795. The Supreme Court in 1821, in Anderson v. Dunn, recognized Congress’ inherent power but noted that the power was limited to “the least power adequate to the end proposed,” and the court limited imprisonment, saying it could not last beyond the adjournment of Congress. Congress passed a statute in 1857 to allow longer terms of imprisonment as well as allowing it to turn contempt cases over to the courts for indictment and trial, with penalties including fines of “not more than $1,000 nor less than $100″ and imprisonment “in a common jail of not less than one month nor more than twelve months.”

And here is the red flag:

The practice in the 20th century, at least, has been to turn cases over to the Justice Department to handle and allow the courts to intervene if the case involved a tension between legislative and executive prerogatives; 1934 was the last time Congress used its inherent power and handled the prosecution of a contempt case itself.

The reason it is a red flag is that according to those "nutcase conspiracy theorists" (like me), the bankruptcy of the United States in 1933 invested the power to administrate said bankruptcy into the hands of "the President." IOW, Congressional checks do not apply because pursuant to said bankruptcy the us is now under military administration. BTW, that second link is a killer. Read it; read it carefully.
37 posted on 06/25/2014 8:37:42 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: tumblindice

Jail times and massive fines.


38 posted on 06/25/2014 8:48:03 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Haiku Guy; All

Contempt of Congress” charges???

Yawn...

I believe most of not ALL government agencies are required, by law. to have a system in place to archive and retrieve all electronic/data communications for many years...IIRC

So if they (an agency) has failed to do so, those who are accountable for the data/information should already be changing clothes...

You know, orange IS the new black...

Seems a reasonable expectation...These contempt of Congress charges and the threat to implement them are empty of substance...

Sure does make for some compelling narratives, that pass for news these days...


39 posted on 06/25/2014 9:33:49 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Will work for a new Kidney...)
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To: Haiku Guy
A parody on a song I once heard LOL

If I had a hard drive
I'd crash it in the morning
I'd crash it in the evening
Just to cover my hide

I'd wipe out E-mails
I'd wipe out surfed websites
I'd wipe out embarrassment to my political party
All over this land.

If I had a lie
I'd tell it in the morning
I'd tell it in the evening
while under oath

I'd lie about corruption
I'd lie about tyranny
I'd lie about the well laid snare to undermine all freedoms
all over this land


If I ran an agency
I'd abuse it in the morning
I'd abuse it in the evening all over this land

I'd wipe out freedom
I'd wipe out Bill Of Rights
I'd wipe out all opposition orgs
all over this land.

If I had corruption
I'd spread it in the morning
I'd spread it in the evening
all over this land

I'd pay off the congress
I'd pay off judges, I'd pay off the media
I pay off all DA's all over this land.

40 posted on 06/25/2014 9:46:52 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe
A most excellent parody, cva66....and a truer parody was never composed!

Leni

41 posted on 06/25/2014 9:55:11 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Monster BHO uses illegal children for political agenda while accusing Right of doing same.)
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To: MinuteGal

I had to vent somehow. Yelling would upset my dogs. LOL.


42 posted on 06/25/2014 10:03:58 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Haiku Guy

If it was official business there’s a good chance there are email CC and BCC distributions that may appear on other drives within the department, as well as the original recipient, whoever it was.


43 posted on 06/26/2014 12:28:37 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: clearcarbon

If the “crashed” hard drive still exists, a forensic examination would show what caused it to crash and when.

If the drive does not exist, but every other drive in the Agency has been preserved, that would be proof of a willing effort to destroy evidence.

Either way, somebody is going to be in a lot of trouble.


44 posted on 06/26/2014 2:21:46 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: chris37

I may harbor contempt for certain members of congress but not of “congress”. For congress is the voice of the people... we lose that, we lose all. So hold your nose for the stinky ones and support those who are trying to bring light onto the corruption.


45 posted on 06/26/2014 2:39:12 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: tcrlaf

Our dear reader will forever be known in my mind as “Smidgens”


46 posted on 06/26/2014 6:04:58 AM PDT by cong. dance leader
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To: antceecee

I will not ever hold my nose for stinky ones again.

And in congress, they all stink.

You can hold your nose if you want to, I’m not going to.

That is exactly how we have lost all already.


47 posted on 06/26/2014 8:18:25 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Haiku Guy

How many emails is the equivalent of 12 minutes of lost tape?


48 posted on 06/26/2014 9:52:22 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: stevie_d_64
So if they (an agency) has failed to do so, those who are accountable for the data/information should already be changing clothes... You know, orange IS the new black...

Failure to do his work is not a crime. It is a cause for dismissal - but that's nothing, compared to conviction of many influential people.

At most one can allege criminal conspiracy and obstruction of justice... but those charges also need proof. If all interested parties clam up, there isn't much that the law can do - assuming that the law is interested in doing anything.

49 posted on 06/26/2014 3:04:46 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: chris37

I guess you misread my post or have no reading comprehension.


50 posted on 06/27/2014 1:13:46 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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