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United Airlines Pilot Arrested for Refusing to Fly to Israel
INN ^ | 6/26/2014, 9:43 AM | Moshe Cohen

Posted on 06/26/2014 2:21:02 AM PDT by Olog-hai

A pilot who refused to fly his scheduled United Airlines flight to Israel was arrested—with 300 passengers stuck on the plane for hours while airline officials scrambled to find another pilot.

The United Airlines flight from Newark to Tel Aviv was set to leave early in the week. Usually a non-stop flight, passengers expected to get to their destinations after about 12 hours, but instead were in transit for about 30. Airline personnel refused to let them disembark for hours, passengers said, “making us feel like hostages, without food or water,” according to one witness. …

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ewr; israel; telaviv; unions; unitedairlines

1 posted on 06/26/2014 2:21:02 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Article indicated that the flight was cancelled the previous day due to poor condition of the plane (including the engines). It is unclear if the pilot refused to file because of safety issues, or for political ones.


2 posted on 06/26/2014 2:30:15 AM PDT by LukeL
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To: Olog-hai

How could the pilot be arrested? I mean he surely could be fired, but arrested? I wonder what the charge was, maybe financially supporting terrorists?

The airlines should know better than hiring jihadist sympathizers as pilots.They are security risks.


3 posted on 06/26/2014 2:30:18 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7

You could argue trespassing. The airlines and airport ordered him to leave the plane and he did not. Also as the senior officer he is in control of the passengers and basically held them hostage by refusing to return to the gate.


4 posted on 06/26/2014 2:31:49 AM PDT by LukeL
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To: Candor7

“How could the pilot be arrested? I mean he surely could be fired, but arrested?”
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That is what I wondered, but with the media as we have it today, God only knows what is fact or fiction.


5 posted on 06/26/2014 2:42:29 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Candor7
How could the pilot be arrested? I mean he surely could be fired, but arrested?

Duh, the dude hijacked the plane and passengers.

He obviously planned this action as he had to review the route and submit his flight plan, check current weather conditions and prepare his charts, etc. It's not like driving a taxi.

Send his azz to Gitmo.

6 posted on 06/26/2014 3:03:24 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor

United Airlines has responded to complaints with an apology to customers and an offer of compensation - and clarified that the pilot’s refusal was the result of a work dispute.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/182185#.U6v2bNq9KSM


7 posted on 06/26/2014 3:32:48 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Olog-hai; Admin Moderator

You’ve got the wrong TITLE line for the article ... perhaps the Admin can correct the WRONG INFORMATION here ...

It doesn’t say he was arrested ...

A pilot who refused to fly his scheduled United Airlines flight to Israel was eventually removed from the cockpit – with 300 passengers stuck on the plane for hours while airline officials scrambled to find another pilot.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/182185#.U6v3kNq9KSO


8 posted on 06/26/2014 3:44:52 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Covenantor

Equally concerning is who was on the ground crew.
The description of the plane’s physical condition may indicate that one or more members of the ground crew that vandalized the aircraft. It is a short step from vandalism to sabotage.


9 posted on 06/26/2014 3:49:07 AM PDT by ozdragon
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To: Star Traveler
...and clarified that the pilot’s refusal was the result of a work dispute.

I was once held hostage for 8 or 9 hours in O'Hare by a United Airlines mechanics union work dispute. Toss his ass so deep in jail that it costs $20 to send him a postcard.

10 posted on 06/26/2014 4:06:37 AM PDT by EricT. (Everything not forbidden is compulsory.)
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To: Olog-hai
Security personnel forcibly removed the pilot from the cockpit, and it was several hours before the airline could find a replacement pilot.

TI thought a cockpit breach was unpossible (I love that word) but I guess the pilot did not choose to barricade himself in the cockpit.

11 posted on 06/26/2014 4:09:34 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: Olog-hai

No name given. Wanna bet it’s a bearded savage name? That should have been the first clue! Never ask a bearded savage to fly a plane into Israel!


12 posted on 06/26/2014 4:11:07 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Candor7

Union scumbag abusing passengers as part of a labor dispute. I’m not sure why you would insist on mollycoddling this socialist idiot.


13 posted on 06/26/2014 4:19:44 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Olog-hai

Give him a tube of Vaseline and drop him off in Syria.


14 posted on 06/26/2014 4:29:51 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: I want the USA back

They didn’t give his NAME???? Oh yeah, he is a MUSLIM or a MUslim SYMPATHIZER!!


15 posted on 06/26/2014 4:48:33 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: I want the USA back

You think he is one of the Robertsons?


16 posted on 06/26/2014 5:02:51 AM PDT by sipow
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To: sipow

United will be out of business within five years.
You couldn’t find a more hateful group of people.

The Continental merger hasn’t worked.


17 posted on 06/26/2014 5:19:45 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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Wonder if he can drive a bus

18 posted on 06/26/2014 5:24:46 AM PDT by SJackson (wish I had known more firsthand about...problems of American businesspeople as a Senator G McGovern)
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To: Star Traveler

Interesting. Like others on this thread, I wonder if he was indeed Muslim.

I’d be going over that plane and baggage with a fine tooth comb if he truly “refused” to fly over a labor dispute.

Like others have said, he basically hijacked the plane and held people hostage on the tarmac. Hijacking gone wrong?

All seems a bit odd and maybe the passengers and press are not being told the truth.


19 posted on 06/26/2014 5:32:38 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: Olog-hai

“...The flight was delayed following a maintenance issue. The aircraft was then swapped for another and as a result of the ongoing delay the flight crew exceeded their legally permitted duty hours. “

The aircraft in bad condition was swapped...and then the unnamed pilot refuses to fly?


20 posted on 06/26/2014 5:38:27 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: ozdragon
The description of the plane’s physical condition may indicate that one or more members of the ground crew that vandalized the aircraft. It is a short step from vandalism to sabotage.

Muslims on the ground crew? What could possibly go wrong? < /sarc >

21 posted on 06/26/2014 6:29:24 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Covenantor
He obviously planned this action as he had to review the route and submit his flight plan, check current weather conditions and prepare his charts, etc. It's not like driving a taxi.

Airline pilots don't file flight plans. It is done hours before a flight by the airline's flight operations center. Often pilots know nothing about the proposed flight until they show up at the aircraft most often less than an hour before a flight. It may not be like driving a taxi, but to a professional pilot it might as well be.
22 posted on 06/26/2014 6:34:14 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: wideawake

Off base. There are extremely complex FAA rules governing pilot duty hours. Legitimate disputes are not uncommon in instances where things do not as planned (the rules are new, and most airlines are finding out that their interpretations are not valid after the FAA steps in). The original aircraft had a mechanical issue, this was the replacement aircraft. If the crew had been on duty for that time, it is reasonable to assume that the Captain did not deem himself or his crew fit for duty. That is his RESPONSIBILITY under the law. The airline only cares about getting the flight to the destination safely. The airline does NOT by awl certify a crew member is fit for duty. ONLY a pilot can determine that for himself. That is not union rules, that is FAR 117. Look it up.


23 posted on 06/26/2014 6:41:55 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Star Traveler

Media sites change the article titles frequently as more information is available.


24 posted on 06/26/2014 6:48:16 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: onedoug

ping


25 posted on 06/26/2014 8:19:08 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: windcliff

I’ll fly El Al, thanks.


26 posted on 06/26/2014 9:22:10 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Candor7

>>United Airlines has responded to complaints with an apology to customers and an offer of compensation - and clarified that the pilot’s refusal was the result of a work dispute.<<


27 posted on 06/26/2014 1:06:34 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Olog-hai
Airline personnel refused to let them disembark for hours,

This ticks me off more than anything. How DARE the airline treat the passengers as if they were cargo to be stored on the plane. I would have gotten off and DARED them to call security. If they did, I would slap a unlawful detainment lawsuit on them so fast it would make their heads spin.

28 posted on 06/26/2014 2:42:03 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Olog-hai

Let me guess. His first or middle name is Muhammad?


29 posted on 06/26/2014 3:30:29 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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To: Olog-hai

The story indicates the crew was going to run out of duty time. The federal regulations put the onus on the crewmember to not accept an assignment that will put him/her over the max permissable limit. The only limit you can exceed is flight time IF it is beyond your control, but not duty time... Sounds like airline dispatch screwed up...


30 posted on 06/26/2014 3:37:49 PM PDT by IFly4Him
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To: Olog-hai

BS story. The pilot was NOT arrested for refusing to fly. There is no such law that forces a pilot to fly. In fact, there is a law that says a pilot does not have to fly.


31 posted on 06/26/2014 3:52:00 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: wideawake

I did not mean to give the impression he should be molycoddled. I just wonder how he could be arrested in what was a civil law dispute concerning employement. Maybe he was fired and refused to leave the premisis. The facts are still foggy. If he is a Muslim they should deport the idjit.


32 posted on 06/27/2014 3:30:24 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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