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Islamic Values vs. Judeo-Christian Values
Frontpage ^ | 6/26/2014 | Nonie Darwish

Posted on 06/26/2014 3:12:13 AM PDT by markomalley

My dear friend Ali Sina mentioned in his most recent article that a Muslim professor, Hossein Askari, believes that Western nations lead the World in “Islamic values” and that most Muslim nations practice the least Islamic values. I have heard such nonsense before from some Muslims, some of whom were my relatives. I will never forget the strange look on my Christian American husband’s face when an elderly Muslim man visiting from Egypt told him: “You are such a fine young man, you have the character of a true Muslim.”

It is not unusual for Muslims to describe non-Muslims whom they perceive as good as having “Islamic values.” Many Christians in Egypt have to suffer hearing comments by Muslims such as: “You are so good, you must convert to Islam, you have the character of a true Muslim.”

How can educated Muslims professors make ridiculous claims like that Ireland “leads the world in Islamic values as Muslim states lag”? Islamic logic, in that case, says, if Irish people have noses, eyes, arms and legs like Muslims then they must be Muslim. This twisted logic wants to hide the truth: that many Muslims no longer want to live under Islamic values, but since that is considered apostasy in Islam, the only way out is to claim life in the land of the Great Satan is really equal to living the true Islamic life.

Muslims are trained to adjust reality to Islamic propaganda; thus everything good must come from Islam and everything bad comes from the Kafir non-believer. So it is Islamic logic to believe that if Christians are good then they must be Muslim, but they just don’t know it yet.

The Muslim dilemma about the West gets more complicated when over 70% of Muslim youth are desperately trying to leave the Muslim world to immigrate to Western nations. Many Muslims are stunned, disappointing and filled with envy when they compare infidel and Islamic nations and discover that infidels have achieved what Muslims could only dream of. Such an awakening by Muslims flies against the Islamic propaganda that has indoctrinated generations into believing that Islam is the solution.

So if Islam is the solution, how come Muslims are happier in the West? Simple: Muslims discovered what the West failed to understand about their own values; According to Muslims, it is Islamic values — so “Allahu Akbar” anyway.

Islam has trained the Islamic mind to solve any contradictions with the goal of making sure that Islam looks good at any cost. In other words, reality has to adjust to Islamic teachings. Muslims must never admit that Western success is attributed to the Judeo-Christian value system. That is why Muslim professors on American college campuses claim that Western cultural success is due to Islamic and not Biblical values, and that the US Constitution is Sharia compliant.

This is nothing new for Islam, Mohammed himself claimed that Christianity and Judaism, which preceded Islam by thousands of years, are in fact Islam, but have just been corrupted. Mohammed started by linking himself to the Abrahamic line in order to get legitimacy and after that he discredited the Jews and Christians as apes, pigs and enemies of Allah. Mohammed taught his followers that Abraham, Jesus, Moses etc., all are in fact Muslims and have Islamic values.

Because of Islamic Sharia’s severe and humiliating punishments, Muslims had to mold their thinking to never venture outside the Islamic mental box. Muslims who are brave enough to think critically for themselves will easily find Islamic values, summed up in Sharia, to be the antithesis of Biblical values.

Mr. Askari, like many devout Muslims, refuses to judge Islam by its fruits that are exploding all around the world. Instead of graciously giving credit where it is due — to the fruits of the Bible — he chose to slap Western culture in the face by shamelessly teaching that Western nations’ success is due to Islamic values. Amazing, that sounds exactly like Mohammed.

This line of thought fits perfectly with the jihadists who are hell bent on violently converting the West to Islam. But the smart stealth jihadist Muslims choose to leave violent jihad to others, and would rather tell the American people that everything good is Islamic and that the corrupted values of the Bible could not have resulted in the fruits of Western success.

Askari probably feels that the poor Western citizens just don’t know what Islam already knows, but are unaware that the West is practicing Islamic values more than Muslims themselves.

Most Muslims are unaware that it is Muslim culture that heavily borrowed from the Bible. Muslims often say “don’t go to bed angry” but are unaware that this is a Biblical value and not a Quranic value. They say “Salamu Alaykum” and respond by saying “Alaykum El Salam” but are unaware that they have borrowed this from Jews’ “Shalom Aleikhem” and the response “Aleikhem Shalom.” They say that Islam is a religion of peace when in fact Islam advocates war and relentlessly urges its followers to die in war while killing the enemies of their Allah.

The so called “moderate Muslims” who advocate that the US Constitution is Sharia compliant, are dangerous because they are stealth jihadists who have no loyalty to the US Constitution and what America is all about. Their loyalty is to the Islamic agenda of the establishment of the Khalifate. The religion of Mohammed has produced millions of people who think like Askari who are constantly struggling with a severe case of ethnocentrism.

Western nations so far have based their way of life on Judeo-Christian values of the Bible; a book outlawed by Islam under penalty of death. It is time for American college campuses to get rid of Muslim teachers who under the guise of research are advocating Islam 101.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: islam; muslims; noniedarwish; rop

1 posted on 06/26/2014 3:12:13 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

This is interesting. Maybe we could sell some of our “multicultural elites” on Christian values if we just told them they were Islamic values.


2 posted on 06/26/2014 3:25:13 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Told 'em not to science those burgers too hard. ~ Darksheare)
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To: markomalley
While Islam has its writings, its values are what the Imam says they are.

Any scripture can be distorted, but at least the basic Judeo-Christian rules were carved in stone.

3 posted on 06/26/2014 3:28:02 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: markomalley
They say “Salamu Alaykum” and respond by saying “Alaykum El Salam” but are unaware that they have borrowed this from Jews’ “Shalom Aleikhem” and the response “Aleikhem Shalom.”

Umm, Arabic and Hebrew are closely related languages. This greeting need not be borrowed, as it could instead be drawn from a common stock.

Does Italian "borrow" from French, or are they both derived from Latin, explaining similarities quite well.

4 posted on 06/26/2014 3:32:13 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Go back far enough and all three Monotheistic religions were primitive. The ONLY difference is that Judaism and Christianity LEFT the Dark Ages behind and reformed their behaviors. They adapted and modernized their codes.

Islam still is sitting in a hut with one hand up their rear ends while the other sharpens a blade all the while killing others who do not think like them. They are Tribal Blood cults and they must be treated as such and not called the “Religion of Peace”.

5 posted on 06/26/2014 3:34:28 AM PDT by Netz
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To: markomalley
The so called “moderate Muslims” who advocate that the US Constitution is Sharia compliant, are dangerous because they are stealth jihadists who have no loyalty to the US Constitution and what America is all about. Their loyalty is to the Islamic agenda of the establishment of the Khalifate.

Not necessarily disagreeing, but it's remarkable how much this aligns with similar claims about Catholics being ultimately loyal to the Pope for most of American history.

I have no doubt such Muslims exist. To claim that therefore all moderate Muslims are stealth jihadists is ludicrous.

6 posted on 06/26/2014 3:35:38 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: markomalley
Islamic values worry me:

Outside of our White House, I don't often see Islamic values in the West. Yet.

7 posted on 06/26/2014 3:35:52 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Netz
Islam still is sitting in a hut with one hand up their rear ends while the other sharpens a blade all the while killing others who do not think like them. They are Tribal Blood cults and they must be treated as such and not called the “Religion of Peace”.

Calling Islam "the Religion of Peace" is like calling Baltimore "the city that reads" or calling New jersey "the Garden State". The ironic names act as a warning to anyone with a functioning brain, so only democrats are fooled.

8 posted on 06/26/2014 3:41:35 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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bfl


9 posted on 06/26/2014 3:46:04 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Sherman Logan
"There are moderate muslims, there is no moderate islam." - Mark Steyn

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10 posted on 06/26/2014 3:46:31 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (The fool is always greater than the proof.)
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To: Pollster1

We are rapidly approaching a time when we are going to have to call a Spade a Spade and speak the truth before the lies and swarming Arab-Persian Islamic mongrels stampede us all. The only option left in Iraq right now are 70 B-52s Carpet Bombing the ISIS (and other) sites...


11 posted on 06/26/2014 3:59:05 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Sherman Logan

There is also an English translation. How often do we say “Peace be upon you,” or “Upon you be peace?” That is not our custom. It’s a Jewish custom, which the muslims borrowed.


12 posted on 06/26/2014 3:59:06 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Wagglebee, welcome home we missed you! ~ Þ)
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To: markomalley

Bearded savage “values” are not compatible with those of normal, civilized people.


13 posted on 06/26/2014 4:05:43 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: I want the USA back

“Bearded savage “values” are not compatible with those of normal, civilized people.”

The West is as devoid of values at this point; countries that have abortion-on-demand and “gay marriage” can’t criticize countries with polygamy and wife-beating.


14 posted on 06/26/2014 4:30:27 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: markomalley

The universalism of Islam, in its all-embracing creed, is imposed on the be- lievers as a continuous process of warfare, psychological and political, if not strictly military. . . . The Jihad, accordingly, may be stated as a doctrine of a permanent state of war, not continuous fighting.”— Majid Khadduri; The Quranic Concept of War


15 posted on 06/26/2014 4:31:12 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Smokin' Joe

While Islam has its writings, its values result in the violence of Muslims against “infidels”.

“By their fruits ye shall know them.”


16 posted on 06/26/2014 4:40:25 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: markomalley

“Islam has trained the Islamic mind to solve any contradictions with the goal of making sure that Islam looks good at any cost. In other words, reality has to adjust to Islamic teachings.”

Wow. The exact same thing is true of Dems/liberals/progressives/Marxists/media!

“Liberals/progressives have trained the liberal/progressive mind to solve any contradictions with the goal of making sure that liberalism/progressivism looks good at any cost. In other words, reality has to adjust to liberal/progressive teachings.”


17 posted on 06/26/2014 5:09:31 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: elcid1970
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18 posted on 06/26/2014 5:15:36 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: markomalley

Compare the behaviour of extreme muslims to extreme Christians.

Extreme Christians spread love, forgive their enemies, pray for those who persecute them, etc.

The extremes are polar opposite. I therefore conclude that islam is of anti-Christ.


19 posted on 06/26/2014 5:16:10 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Mycroft Holmes
"There are moderate muslims, there is no moderate islam." - Mark Steyn

Steyn's one smart man... we ARE at war with Islamic beliefs, values and cultures. But NOT necessarily with every individual who happens to have been born muslim. It's an important distinction.

20 posted on 06/26/2014 5:27:06 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hey IRS - those receipts you wanted? The dog ate 'em. -New Name:"Washington Thinskins" -FR. coloeo)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Thank you for those links, I will check them out shortly.

Just surfing around I’ve discovered an interfaith movement called “Chrislam”.

I thought Chrislam was protective coloration used by Middle Eastern Christians to survive in those Islamic hellholes.

Chrislam googles as a syncretic movement practiced by a narrow sect in Nigeria.

But in this country Chrislam is a kumbaya lovefest being peddled by the likes of Rick Warren, Jim Wallis & other `Christian’ spokesmen. The love between them & Islam of course is a one way street.

Jack Van Impe talks of Chrislam as part of the End Times. Interesting, though: we are well aware of the Left-Islam axis; is Chrislam the religious manifestation of that unholy axis?


21 posted on 06/26/2014 5:42:14 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: markomalley

Islamic values:

Murder
Torture
Destroy
Blow up
Hate


22 posted on 06/26/2014 6:25:40 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Star Traveler

Ping to a thread more relevant to our discussion.


23 posted on 06/26/2014 8:24:48 AM PDT by FBD
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To: FBD

I like Nonie Darwish and she can educate people so that they don’t go to a false god like Allah.

The core issue is “who” is the true God of the universe and creation and mankind. Well, Christians know it’s the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob which is the true God and that there is nine other like him, anywhere.

One big difference though, between Christians and Muslims is that for many of the Muslims, they are taught that they must do the killing of Christians and Jews and others who won’t accept Allah or Mohammed.

With Christians, they are NOT taught that they must do the killing, but old that they are to “give the Gospel message” to all and warn everyone of their eternal fate in the lake of fire.

It’s Jesus, as the Messiah of Israel, who will KILL ALL THE MUSLIMS in the world (and all others who oppose him) and if is Jesus, himself, who will set up the one-world government ruling over all the nations of the world from Jerusalem.

In the meantime, we can keep all the ISLAMISTS and JIHADISTS out of this country and let them fester in their own part of the world.


24 posted on 06/26/2014 8:50:30 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Well, we both certainly agree that we need to keep the Muslims out of America. :-)


25 posted on 06/26/2014 9:19:22 AM PDT by FBD
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To: elcid1970
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Jack Van Impe talks of Chrislam as part of the End Times. Interesting, though: we are well aware of the Left-Islam axis; is Chrislam the religious manifestation of that unholy axis?


The phrase "Pale Horse" in Revelation (Four Horses) is said by some to be a misinterpretation.

In fact, it is argued, the word "pale" means "green", Islam's primary color.



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26 posted on 06/26/2014 3:23:38 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: Sherman Logan
I have no doubt such Muslims exist. To claim that therefore all moderate Muslims are stealth jihadists is ludicrous.

There is no comparison between Islamism & Catholicism THOUGH there may be comparable followers of each now & historically.

Islam is anti-American -PERIOD.

27 posted on 06/26/2014 3:34:45 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers

“...NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!”

;^)


28 posted on 06/26/2014 4:46:45 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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