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Issa Calls for Special Prosecutor in IRS Case; Suggests Immunity for Lerner
Breitbart ^ | 26 Jun 2014

Posted on 06/26/2014 11:13:04 AM PDT by mandaladon

House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrel Issa (R-CA) demanded a special prosecutor to investigate the IRS over its targeting of conservative groups and the disappearance of emails from key officials.

Issa declared that IRS Commissioner John Koskinen is “not the ideal person, not even an appropriate person” to oversee the investigation into the IRS’ conducts, and that this case calls for a true, special, independent prosecutor who has the ability to issue warrants, to seize materials, to safeguard documents and other information before it goes away and get to the truth.”

He added that a special prosecutor will almost certainly not be named by President Barack Obama or Attorney General Eric Holder.

Issa added that the revelation that Lois Lerner improperly gave the personal information of donors to the Justice Department made it clear that her attorney should “take back that statement she made, that perjured statement that she broke no laws, she broke no regulations.” He concluded, “of course she broke laws and of course she broke regulations and we need to hold her accountable.”

Even though he said that Lerner was “biased,” “had an agenda,” and “broke laws,” Issa stated that he “absolutely” would be willing to give Lerner immunity “if she would deliver to us the explanation of who she worked with in this conspiracy.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: 113th; destroyedevidence; irs; irsscandal; issa; lerner; loislerner; loislerneremails; obama; smidgen; specialprosecutor
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1 posted on 06/26/2014 11:13:04 AM PDT by mandaladon
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2 posted on 06/26/2014 11:14:19 AM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: mandaladon

I think she would still lie even if given immunity. I want her to go to jail.


3 posted on 06/26/2014 11:14:28 AM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: mandaladon

Never grant immunity unless you know for certain the information you are going to receive...never!


4 posted on 06/26/2014 11:14:44 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: mandaladon
If Lerner gives up Hussein, I'm all for it.

Otherwise, no.

And she gives up Hussein first. Don't want her pulling a Lt. Col. North on us.

5 posted on 06/26/2014 11:15:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: mandaladon

If he and Boehner would just have the Sergeant at Arms arrest her until the end of the session, they’d get all the publicity they need about what she’s done.


6 posted on 06/26/2014 11:16:41 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: mandaladon

Hey congress.
Pretend that Lerner is Roger Clemens.
Go after her like you did then.


7 posted on 06/26/2014 11:18:23 AM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is the CPUSA)
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To: South40

any day now we’ll hear in the news that Lois Lerner has fallen off a tall building


8 posted on 06/26/2014 11:19:39 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Don Corleone

He may know it. Lois thinks she’s super smart by playing super-dumb (who, lil’ ol’ me and that big nasty computer thing?) but there’s no way she can hide all that correspondence forever.

Also, I believe government employees are not supposed to conduct official business on their personal laptops or phones, and she happened to mention that she was using her Blackberry for this.

And on top of it, wasn’t she the one using an alias to communicate? A man’s name, to throw people off? If it wasn’t Lois, it was some other higher up. In any case, there’s nothing innocent about that, and I’m sure there have been investigators poring over that too.


9 posted on 06/26/2014 11:20:25 AM PDT by livius
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To: mandaladon

First of all Issa is dancing on the head of a pin in the absence of a Special Prosecutor, and running out the clock, and second, Lois Lerner will never give up Holder/Obama for any reason. Obama is a religious experience for her, so, “NO”, to immunity.

Besides, she seems quite safe having pleaded the 5th.


10 posted on 06/26/2014 11:21:00 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: RitaOK

IRS hearings will get wider coverage when agency does something truly egregious, like closing a lane on a bridge.—
Pat Sajak (@patsajak) June 25, 2014


11 posted on 06/26/2014 11:22:22 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: molson209

And she should stay clear of Ft. Marcy Park.


12 posted on 06/26/2014 11:22:51 AM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: livius

I believe you are remembering the EPA chief, and I believe she was forced out and resigned.


13 posted on 06/26/2014 11:22:57 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: mandaladon

put her in jail until she sings!


14 posted on 06/26/2014 11:23:41 AM PDT by jrd (All federal acts,laws,orders,rules regulations regarding firearms, infringe the 2 amendment)
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To: RummyChick

Nice point.


15 posted on 06/26/2014 11:23:57 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: mandaladon

she won’t say anything with immunity. she knows she is off the hook.


16 posted on 06/26/2014 11:25:55 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: jrd

Issa said on OR the other night he had filed 4 criminal charges against her with DOJ and DOJ (read Holder/Obama) had done nothing?

It’s start to start impeachment proceedings on Holder.

Arrest the soldiers, they will give up the capos, the capos will give up the Don.


17 posted on 06/26/2014 11:26:06 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Taliban, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: mandaladon

Let’s go.


18 posted on 06/26/2014 11:28:40 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: Don Corleone

I’m sure Gowdy has made Issa well aware of this. I don’t thnk this woman will ever spill the beans.


19 posted on 06/26/2014 11:29:07 AM PDT by surrey
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To: mandaladon

The Code of Omerta. She ain’t talking. Nobody is talking. Everybody skates in the end.


20 posted on 06/26/2014 11:30:26 AM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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To: mandaladon

Forget about it.

1. The emails are gone. The reason it took so long say that the emails were deleted is that the folks deleting the emails were thorough and it took time.

2. With no emails, there is no evidence. Despite the fact there is proof that evidence was destroyed, the lack of evidence makes it impossible to prosecute Lerner or go after her superiors.

3. The people responsible for maintaining and preserving those email will not be prosecuted because there is no “proof” of criminal intent. (Proof of criminal intent is required during Democrat Administrations, but not during ‘Pubbie Administrations where simply forgetting something can land you in jail.)


21 posted on 06/26/2014 11:30:50 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: dandiegirl
I think she would still lie even if given immunity. I want her to go to jail.

If she does lie, the immunity goes away.

I would happily see her get immunity and have her testify. She'd be the government version of Sammy the Bull, and would do for the IRS (and the government) what he did for the Gambino crime family and the Mafia.

22 posted on 06/26/2014 11:36:33 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: livius

I remember the case of the woman using a false name email to conduct secret government business, and I think she was with the EPA, but I would not doubt that Lerner did something similar.

Lerner did use a personal computer, at least it seems that Gowdy knows so. In the second part of the hearing on Tuesday Gowdy questions O’Connor around 31:00 - 36:00. At the very end he asks O’Connor whether Lerner used a personal computer, and the “I know nuthin” liar mumbles some inanity. Gowdy shoots back: “She did.” At which point his 5 minutes were up.

http://oversight.house.gov/hearing/irs-obstruction-lois-lerners-missing-e-mails-part-ii/

Months ago I recall Gowdy saying that a good prosecutor will not ask a question for which he did not already know the correct answer. Gowdy shot that “She did!” at her to let her know that she is in deep trouble. I think they have proof that O’Connor is part of the cover up.


23 posted on 06/26/2014 11:39:42 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: mandaladon

NO!!! How STUPID can we be!! NAIL HER and SEND HER TO PRISON!!!! She will LIE ANYWAY....she’s a DEMOCRAT....it’s what they DO!!


24 posted on 06/26/2014 11:39:56 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: mandaladon
We should CRUCIFY Lois Lerner.
25 posted on 06/26/2014 11:40:22 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: mandaladon

This is why the democRTAS will pull out all the stops in 2014 to hold the senate, and deploy everything that’s left in reserve for 2016.

IF they lose control of the levers of power they are going to get fried in corruption charges


26 posted on 06/26/2014 11:40:51 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Tzimisce

I’d like to see the head of the IRS perp walked also. One of the charges would be Felony smugness. French revolution charge against the royalty.


27 posted on 06/26/2014 11:41:41 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Taliban, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: mandaladon

Special Prosecutor. No immunity.


28 posted on 06/26/2014 11:44:14 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: mandaladon

That she currently walks free on our streets unmolested is a black eye upon every citizen that passes her.


29 posted on 06/26/2014 11:46:00 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: RummyChick

Following rant not directed to you personally, don’t take offense.

Due to dietary restraints, I will have to switch to Pork Rines from Pop Corn. Watching BOTH sides of the aisle has the same quality as Reality TV. It is all to distract and entertain us while nothing of substance is done.

Anyone that doesn’t understand that America is done is delusional. The GOP buying black votes in Mississippi has to be the final straw.

I am done. Blacks want to screw America...fine. I will vote for Democrats from now on. No one screws Blacks like the Democrats, especially Black Democrats. Payback is a biotch.

America will not be brought back by the ballot box, so the only thing left is to help the Democrats finish the job and start over from the ashes.

Only chance would be a Palin led third party. From most replies I have seen so far on FR is : Can’t do that! NOOO! Third party would mean the Democrats would not be stopped. Need Republicans to save the Supreme Court..Like we were saved from the wise latina...and Roberts hasn’t betrayed us... THEY ARE NOT BEING STOPPED NOW AND THE GOP IS KILLING THE TEA PARTY!

We have nothing left to lose by going third party. It is the only chance to restore America without bullets and I fear it is too late for even that.

Free Republic, thanks for the opportunity to rant.


30 posted on 06/26/2014 11:47:07 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: mandaladon
Is there any way a Congressional Committee can go after Lerner's pension, especially once it's proven that she was engaged in illegal activities while in her role as a Gov't employee?

While she may not end up with any jail time (although I hope otherwise), I'll bet that arrogant smirk would be wiped from her face were she to lose her cushy retirement income unless she cooperates fully. As it stands now, she has nothing to lose by just keeping her trap shut and riding off into the sunset.

31 posted on 06/26/2014 11:47:25 AM PDT by mellow velo
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To: Little Ray; mandaladon; maggief; Oldeconomybuyer

They’re not gone...... see these posts: (h/t maggief, oldeconomybuyer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3172288/posts?page=22#22

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3172288/posts?page=105#105


32 posted on 06/26/2014 11:51:58 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Don Corleone
Never grant immunity unless you know for certain the information you are going to receive...never!

What you said.

33 posted on 06/26/2014 11:57:07 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: RitaOK

Ah, could be. But I know Little Lois let slip the other day that she was using her blackberry. I don’t know if it was government issued or if it was hers personally.


34 posted on 06/26/2014 11:57:59 AM PDT by livius
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To: mandaladon

Special prosecuter, good idea

Giving Lois lerner immunity, terrible idea, that evil tyrant of a witch needs jail time.


35 posted on 06/26/2014 11:58:55 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: Little Ray
Forget about it.

1. The emails are gone. The reason it took so long say that the emails were deleted is that the folks deleting the emails were thorough and it took time.

2. With no emails, there is no evidence. Despite the fact there is proof that evidence was destroyed, the lack of evidence makes it impossible to prosecute Lerner or go after her superiors.

3. The people responsible for maintaining and preserving those email will not be prosecuted because there is no “proof” of criminal intent. (Proof of criminal intent is required during Democrat Administrations, but not during ‘Pubbie Administrations where simply forgetting something can land you in jail.)


These are democrats were talking about. Maybe. Many, many people had to be involved in this or seen what was going on. I bet there are people who kept some evidence knowing what it would be worth. There's evidence out there, if Issa doesn't already have it. He may be holding it back until closer to the election. The obama and the media won't have time to make up lies about it. All he has to say is he wanted everyone to testify so he knows who he will later prosecute. Let them bury themselves.
36 posted on 06/26/2014 11:59:42 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Don Corleone
Godfather, I don't think Lerner will ever talk even if granted immunity. She was chosen for this particular assignment because it was understood that she would be willing to go to prison if found out, but would never spill the beans. She's a true believer, and willing to take one for the team.

Capice?

37 posted on 06/26/2014 11:59:45 AM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: WildHighlander57
Indeed, the emails appear to have been discovered via some Blackberry path. More than one email has been revealed. In addition to the email involving illegal tracking of a Sitting US Senator.
I wonder if Retired US Senators were illegally targeted?
An Independent Counsel can be appointed by a Federal Judge.
I hope Mz Lerner enjoys each day she lives as a free citizen.
All things come to an end.
TWB
38 posted on 06/26/2014 12:01:59 PM PDT by TWhiteBear (a)
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To: mandaladon

Issa: Okay, if you’ll agree to testify, I’ll grant you immunity.

Lois: From what?

Issa: From prosecution.

Lois: By whom?

Issa: Eric H— Oh, crap.


39 posted on 06/26/2014 12:02:31 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Cap Huff

Thanks! Glad you caught that. I think Lois is in big trouble just for that alone.

I wonder if O’Connor’s “somebody named Ben,” supposedly the only coworker she could remember, was actually an alias used by one of the co-conspirators.


40 posted on 06/26/2014 12:04:09 PM PDT by livius
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To: mandaladon

Lois Lerner must be arrested and sent to prison FOR YEARS. End of story. NO immunity for her!!!!


41 posted on 06/26/2014 12:13:23 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: livius

Ben as in ‘Ben Rhodes’, the IRS contact in the WH.


42 posted on 06/26/2014 12:14:37 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: molson209

I’m sure Lois Lerner is afraid to even go outside.. GOOD. The regime would love nothing more than to ‘Fuddy’ her arse.


43 posted on 06/26/2014 12:17:42 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: mandaladon
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44 posted on 06/26/2014 12:19:18 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: mandaladon

Immunity?
How about burning her at the stake,
Ala Ma and Pa Kettles kids?..


45 posted on 06/26/2014 12:29:28 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: mandaladon

Good move because after she testifies and spills the beans, a cursory review will find she perjured herself somewhere in her testimony(pathological liars are incapable of telling the complete truth). Then we can send her and her bosses to the slammer.


46 posted on 06/26/2014 12:40:04 PM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: Gadsden1st

[ Only chance would be a Palin led third party. From most replies I have seen so far on FR is : Can’t do that! NOOO! Third party would mean the Democrats would not be stopped. Need Republicans to save the Supreme Court..Like we were saved from the wise latina...and Roberts hasn’t betrayed us... THEY ARE NOT BEING STOPPED NOW AND THE GOP IS KILLING THE TEA PARTY!

We have nothing left to lose by going third party. It is the only chance to restore America without bullets and I fear it is too late for even that.

Free Republic, thanks for the opportunity to rant. ]

I see the Beating of McDaniel to be anologous to the Beatign that Charles Sumner took in the 1850’s....

Look it up, and how long did it take for the Newly created Republican Party to win a presidency? Not Long...

People are fed up with the Old Whigs who do nothing but consolidate power and the Democrats who have been around far too damned long...


47 posted on 06/26/2014 12:46:44 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: Little Ray

It would be interesting to find out what they did with any mail server logs and any reports generated by log analysis tools. Was there any requirement to send any of that data to the National archives?


48 posted on 06/26/2014 1:04:47 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: South40

Prediction: Lois Lerner’s “suicide” is right around the corner.


49 posted on 06/26/2014 1:17:25 PM PDT by eCSMaster ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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To: mandaladon

Bill O Reilly had ISSA on his show this past week, and he suggested immunity for Lerner IF SHE GIVES UP other IRS employess and how far up this goes. I doubt she would give up O Drama....so I say prosecute her to fullest extent of law, and then somewhere along the line she will cave and want immunity for giving up O Drama....her husband is an attorney, big time, so she is sleeping with legal advice.
The plan to get her to cave must be rock solid.


50 posted on 06/26/2014 1:18:01 PM PDT by Kackikat
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