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Family Of Man Shot While Robbing A Waffle House Calls For Stricter Gun Laws
Breitbart Big Government ^ | June 26,2014 | ADELLE NAZARIAN

Posted on 06/26/2014 5:03:38 PM PDT by Hojczyk

The family of a North Carolina man who was shot and killed while committing an armed robbery is calling for stricter gun laws.

Dante Williams, 19, and his accomplice Jawan Craig walked into the Waffle House restaurant and "terrorized" the customers in 2012 intent on robbing it at gun point. Upon being approached by Williams, gun in hand, one of the patrons, Justin Harrison – who also had a concealed weapon on him but had an actual permit for it – shot Williams in self-defense, killing him "almost instantly," according to a Fox News affiliate in North Carolina. Fox only recently acquired the video footage from the 2012 incident.

Craig tried wrestling the gun away from Harrison but couldn't and fled the scene. He was later apprehended and sentenced to 30 years in prison for participating in the robbery.

Williams's cousin Tamika McSwain is saying that although what he did was wrong, he shouldn't have died and is calling for stricter gun laws. In the video, she specifically cites Harrison in her argument, asserting that tougher regulations for the acquirement of concealed weapon permits may have prevented her cousin's death.

McSwain said her cousin obtained the gun through the crowd the teen hung out with – "the wrong crowd," she said, while noting that she believes more training is needed for CWP carriers, specifically Harrison.

Harrison, however, says he did what he had to do. David Blanton, who was Harrison's CWP instructor, reviewed the video and said Harrison followed his training and was justified in firing, notes Fox.

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1 posted on 06/26/2014 5:03:38 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

“We like unarmed victims!”


2 posted on 06/26/2014 5:04:20 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Hojczyk

Ma lil baby boy never did nuthin’ to nobody!


3 posted on 06/26/2014 5:06:10 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Hojczyk

Dante and Jawan...


4 posted on 06/26/2014 5:06:43 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Hojczyk

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/05/Video-Waffle-House-Robber-Shot-Killed-By-Concealed-Carry-Permit-Holder


5 posted on 06/26/2014 5:07:08 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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So, she wants the law-abiding American who defended innocent lives disarmed, while criminal thugs like her brother will still ignore the law and prey upon the innocent. Have I got this right? It’s hard to know what you’re seeing when tou’ve fallen down the rabbit hole.

(Oh, and your brother wasn’t hanging with the “wrong crowd”, he WAS the wrong crowd)


6 posted on 06/26/2014 5:07:29 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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Now ain’t that sweet? If the dead criminal would have abided by the current law, he wouldn’t be pushing up the daisies, now would he? LOL! One only needs to look at the definition of the word “criminal”

I do not think that that word means what you think it means.


7 posted on 06/26/2014 5:07:33 PM PDT by Klemper
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To: Slings and Arrows

Waffle House

Ping!!!!


8 posted on 06/26/2014 5:08:14 PM PDT by Gefn (More cowbell)
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To: mrsmel
So, she wants the law-abiding American who defended innocent lives disarmed, while criminal thugs like her brother will still ignore the law and prey upon the innocent.

Well, placing defenseless law abiding citizens at the mercy of armed criminals is the very essence of what Democrats and their RINO enablers define as "common sense gun laws."

9 posted on 06/26/2014 5:10:56 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: Hojczyk

In other news:

“Burglar foiled by doberman calls for stricter “dog control” laws”

“Bank robber files lawsuit claiming security cameras are an invasion of privacy”

“Rapist claims DNA testing is a violation of the 5th Amendment protection against self-incrimination”


10 posted on 06/26/2014 5:14:45 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Hojczyk

Jim Gaffigan

Waffle House

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F6YZ7Eu6tM


11 posted on 06/26/2014 5:18:03 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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John Ross on why right-to-carry in Missouri was opposed by 9 to 1 margins in the black districts of St. Louis and Kansas City:

    Which brings me to the Right-To-Carry issue. Missouri is unfortunately one of the five remaining states which absolutely prohibit honest adults from carrying a concealed firearm for protection. There is no permit available here under any circumstances. The legislature passed Right-To-Carry last month, but it is not yet law, and there is fear that our Governor may veto the measure, although I believe there are enough votes for a veto override.  (7/3/03 update: Gov. Holden just vetoed RTC in a big ceremony this afternoon in St. Louis County. 9/11/03 Update: The Missouri House and Senate just overrode Governor Holden's veto of RTC.  Missourians just got some of their rights back, after 129 years.)  I wrote an article for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch on this issue, but they want you to pay $2.95 to read it online. I'll put my article up on my site when I get the text loaded.

    When discussing this matter, people inevitably bring up Missouri’s 1999 ballot referendum on Right-To-Carry, which was narrowly defeated (with a dismal 30% voter turnout, I might add.) The fact is that the measure passed in almost every county in the state. The defeat came from the fact that two very large urban precincts in St. Louis and Kansas City were over 90% opposed. At the time, I thought this was vote fraud (and to be honest, I still think that was a factor). Ninety percent? You can’t get ninety percent agreement on anything.

    A black businessman (who was one of the handful of St. Louis city residents who voted for the referendum) and I were discussing the recent passage of RTC. I brought up the referendum results, and said I could not understand why blacks had been so uniformly against the measure. The proposal was a "shall issue" one, where if you satisfied the requirements (training, fingerprints, no criminal record, no mental illness, etc.) you couldn’t be denied the permit just because the sheriff didn’t like the idea of people besides the police having guns. The businessman stared at me.

    "I thought you were good at math," he said.  I allowed as to how I felt that I was. "Then you must never have taken Statistics and Probability." I told him I had done this also, and that it had been one of the most rewarding math classes I had ever taken (and incidentally was taught by Amherst’s professor Denton, who is black.) "Then you must be cowed enough by political correctness to never think of applying statistics and probability to anything involving race." Finally I admitted that this last accusation might be true.

    "Then I am going to ask you two true-or-false questions. One: Do blacks in the city of St. Louis have large extended families?" I answered in the affirmative. "Two: Is it true that in St. Louis, over 40% of the black males between the ages of 17 and 25 have criminal records?" I told him that was also true, unfortunately.

    "So here is the important question: What are the chances of a black person of voting age in St. Louis having at least one relative with a criminal record? Assume we define ‘relative’ broadly, to include the young men who father the children of our female relatives, whether married to them or not." He sat there waiting for my answer.

    "Are we talking fathers, stepfathers, uncles, brothers, stepbrothers, male cousins, sons, stepsons, nephews, mothers’ boyfriends, aunts' boyfriends, sisters’ boyfriends, daughters’ boyfriends, stepdaughters’ boyfriends, female cousins’ boyfriends, nieces’ boyfriends, as well as anyone actually married to a female relative?" I asked. He nodded. "Then I’d say there's nearly 100% probability that at least one relative would have a criminal record." He smiled at me like a teacher who has just gotten the right answer from one of his slower students.

    "So," I said, "I'm to believe that the black sentiment in St. Louis was ‘I wish young Tyrone would stop robbing people, but I don’t want one of the people he robs to shoot him dead.’ Is that it?" I asked.

    "You’ve got it exactly," he told me.

    "But why? I mean, honestly, if some guy was married to my cousin and mugged people for a living, I’d figure he was making his own choices and could damn well take the chance of being blasted. I wouldn’t vote away my rights to help his sorry ass."

    "What if it wasn’t just your one cousin’s husband, but 40% of all your male relatives between the ages of 18 and 25? What if that was, oh, I don’t know, a dozen people?"  Suddenly I didn’t know what to say.

    "You don’t feel that way," I said finally.

    "I’m an Uncle Tom. I’ve recently come to realize that I now have very few black friends."

    This statement filled me with an ineffable sadness.  I know that we will get Right-To-Carry here in Missouri, even if the Governor vetoes it. That’s not the issue. And every black Missourian with a criminal record isn’t going to get shot by an armed citizen—we all know that, too.   In over 98%** of the cases where a licenseholder encounters a criminal, he stops the crime without firing a shot. It’s that way in Atlanta and every other big city with a large black population in a Right-To-Carry state, so there’s no reason to think it would be any different in Kansas City or St. Louis.

    But the O.J. trial and what the black businessman said has stuck with me. What hope can we have, I wonder, if the values that blacks hold dear are mutually exclusive of those held by whites?

12 posted on 06/26/2014 5:18:38 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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Our next minority rights group will be armed robbers.


13 posted on 06/26/2014 5:18:54 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Hojczyk

The Scum family.


14 posted on 06/26/2014 5:22:53 PM PDT by 'smith
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These people who complain are idiots. If someone threatens with a gun and is also committing a crime ... of course the other person has the right of self defense. What’s so hard to understand about that?


15 posted on 06/26/2014 5:24:32 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Hojczyk
Anyone who still doubts that the culture war is hot should take a long look at this one. A significant proportion of the population - not all black by any means - wants a significant proportion of the population - not all white by any means - to be victimized or victimizable. The Haves, black or white, are oppressors of the Have Nots, who are justified in redistributing the wealth by any means necessary. The term for this is "social justice".

The proper term for it is "insanity" but that turns out to be another oppressed class, doesn't it?

16 posted on 06/26/2014 5:25:35 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Williams's cousin Tamika McSwain is saying that although what he did was wrong, he shouldn't have died and is calling for stricter gun laws.

Your "cous" contributed to a happy ending. And he once again proved that a law abiding citizen with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. I don't care what you thought "cous" was doing, in some of these cases everyone ends shot in the head by these perps.

17 posted on 06/26/2014 5:28:06 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: glorgau

a couple more of Obozo’s sons.

Hale YEAH we’s be wantin’ strikker gun laws! Who be’s wantin’ to rob a place dat shoots back?


18 posted on 06/26/2014 5:28:35 PM PDT by Zman516 (Thought-Criminal #1)
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Dante and Jawan...

Don't forget Tamika. I wonder if they are Obama's kids?

19 posted on 06/26/2014 5:30:21 PM PDT by Mark17 (Rats and RINOs, who are destroying America, may an elephant caress you with his toes, or worse)
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she believes more training is needed for CWP carriers, specifically Harrison

It depends, did Harrison kill him with one shot? If so, how can training make you better than that?

20 posted on 06/26/2014 5:36:56 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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In fact, after this final robbery, he had planned to turn his life around and become a community organizer, but was unjustly frustrated in this heroic endeavor by a crazed citizen not wanting to participate in wealth redistribution.


21 posted on 06/26/2014 5:38:42 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Surgeon General Warning: Operation of Government Motors vehicles may be hazardous to your health)
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Gun control - because criminals shouldn’t have to pay for armed robbery with their lives. /s


22 posted on 06/26/2014 5:49:09 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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stricter guns laws, hummm... how bout the DEATH PENALTY for ARMED ROBBERY!!!
23 posted on 06/26/2014 5:56:25 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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“He Was A Respectable Boy.” Armed Robber’s Family Claims He Was The Real Victim.

Posted by Bob Owens on April 30, 2014 at 5:11 pm

According to Williams’s cousin, it’s the dead robber that is the real victim:

“I understand he felt threatened by the situation,” McSwain said. “But he said the gun was pointed at him so he fired. In fact he (Williams) was walking out.”

McSwain admits that Williams made a terrible decision the night he died.

“It still puzzles us as to why he would do something so crazy,” said McSwain.

Williams actions were out of character for the Dorman High School senior who his family said had never been in trouble before.

“He was always sharp, always goofy, loved to dance, he was a respectable boy,” McSwain said.

McSwain said her family was disappointed that Harrison wasn’t charged in the shooting and says her family is still considering pursuing other legal action against him.

Both the Spartanburg County Sheriff’s Office and Seventh Circuit Solicitor’s office cleared Harrison in the shooting.

http://bearingarms.com/respectable-boy-armed-robbers-family-claims-real-victim/


24 posted on 06/26/2014 6:01:51 PM PDT by kcvl
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Tamika McSwain is Williams’ cousin and said more training is needed before someone is given a CWP. McSwain said the video contradicts statements made by Harrison about what happened the night of the robbery, and said if Harrison had been bettered trained he may not have fired the fatal shots.

McSwain said her family was disappointed that Harrison wasn’t charged in the shooting and says her family is still considering pursuing other legal action against him.

But McSwain said her cousin’s death shows that more training is need for CWP holders.


25 posted on 06/26/2014 6:04:26 PM PDT by kcvl
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Snicker...


26 posted on 06/26/2014 6:05:37 PM PDT by arderkrag (Chaste women, sober men, obedient children, and "sin laws" - the four horsemen of the apocalypse.)
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
Well, there ya go!



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!

27 posted on 06/26/2014 6:28:07 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Hojczyk

These were such good boys! But that evil guy with the gun who decided to shoot back....


28 posted on 06/26/2014 6:28:48 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun free zones?)
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To: Hojczyk

Dante is undoubtedly “just turning his life around”.


29 posted on 06/26/2014 6:50:08 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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Exactamundo. Sounds like he had just the right amount of training.


30 posted on 06/26/2014 7:08:47 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: logic101.net

“You means dat evil white cracker who done kill ma baby who never did nothin’ to nobody no how!”

Gun ownership is depicted as a white thing and CCW is depicted as a whiter thing. Geez.....


31 posted on 06/26/2014 7:21:03 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Gefn; Slings and Arrows; KoRn; DocRock; miss marmelstein; JSteff; TADSLOS; FreedomPoster; LucyT; ...
Call OSHA!


FReepmail me or KoRn to get on or off the Waffle House Ping List.

32 posted on 06/26/2014 7:26:10 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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Funny thing, if there had been a plain clothes cop at the Waffle House and he shot the perp, what would “the family be saying?” I don’t like to see anyone die, but you do an armed robbery, you are opening yourself up to getting killed. Glad no one else was hurt. The other thing I’m wondering is how long it’s going to take to run out of armed Black thugs? Seems like there are a half a dozen posts on FR every day. I guess they are slow learners.


33 posted on 06/26/2014 7:33:21 PM PDT by vette6387
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Video of incident and interview with Justin Harrison:

http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/25373283/spartanburg-waffle-house-shooting-video-released-sparks-new-debate


34 posted on 06/26/2014 7:43:11 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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If a dozen black robbers are killed nationwide in a day ,it is “an epidemic of gun violence”;if a dozen white people are murdered by black thugs it is just not national news.The darn whites must be disarmed so they will be easier to control.


35 posted on 06/26/2014 7:44:55 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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“The darn whites must be disarmed so they will be easier to control.”

Well, I think actually more and more whites are arming themselves and that will ultimately be “detrimental” to blacks who think that Obama being president gives them some sort of get out of jail free card for committing crimes against us. There are some very hard lessons coming for blacks in the near future unless they change their attitudes toward their fellow men.


36 posted on 06/26/2014 8:04:24 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Hojczyk

I like the name “Bellcurvius”


37 posted on 06/26/2014 8:14:51 PM PDT by equalator
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We first saw it when progressives were outraged that Trayvon Martin was killed as he attempted to murder George Zimmerman. It will be a theme we will hear more often.


38 posted on 06/26/2014 8:15:59 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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Tyrants, criminals, and thugs LOVE, LOVE, LOVE more government gun control and gun-free zones!


39 posted on 06/26/2014 8:17:05 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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The nerve of this pig of a woman


40 posted on 06/26/2014 8:22:48 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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Is there just a clean copy of the video that shows what happened?


41 posted on 06/26/2014 8:29:42 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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McSwain said her cousin obtained the gun through the crowd the teen hung out with – “the wrong crowd,” she said, while noting that she believes more training is needed for CWP carriers, specifically Harrison.


If her cousin would have committed the attempted robbery using a hotdog, or perhaps a knockwurst, he would likely be alive today.

What the hell, it makes as much sense as the idiocy she’s babbling.


42 posted on 06/26/2014 8:35:01 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Hojczyk
Justin Harrison exhibited some fine gun control IMHO.
43 posted on 06/26/2014 10:15:27 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Zhang Fei

Wow. Fascinating post.


44 posted on 06/27/2014 2:31:12 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Be a part of the American freedom migration: freestateproject.org)
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To: Hojczyk

For certain cultural groups, robbery and other crime is an accepted and even honored profession. When the marks fight back (which in their view, they have no right to) they must be punished.

I have seen this to often.


45 posted on 06/27/2014 4:25:54 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: equalator

“Bellcurvius Minimus”


46 posted on 06/27/2014 5:07:02 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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“is saying that although what he did was wrong, he shouldn’t have died and is calling for stricter gun laws”

FU. He thought he was ‘bad’ and got what he deserved.


47 posted on 06/27/2014 5:10:14 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Hojczyk

Firearm is the tool, it’s all up to the individual how it’s used.


48 posted on 06/27/2014 5:11:21 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

The citizen was a better shot than most cops....
A cop would have fired 15 shots, hit three bystanders and missed the perp.


49 posted on 06/27/2014 6:06:24 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Hojczyk
In a recent prison survey it was reported that 10 out of 10 criminals, support gun control.
50 posted on 06/27/2014 6:25:12 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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