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Posted on 06/27/2014 6:30:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
How far did the establishment GOP forces backing Senator Thad Cochran go in Mississippi this week? Too far, and their tactics are likely to leave permanent scars in a civil war with Tea Party forces that are out of all proportion to the importance the establishment placed on saving one 76-year-old senators ability to please Washingtons K Street lobbying interests.
This is a win for the establishment, but its a win with an asterisk, because its so tainted that it might be one of those things where theyre going to be sorry they ever won the runoff in Mississippi, Craig Shirley, a political consultant and the author of two respected biographies of Ronald Reagan, told Yahoo News this week.
The key to Cochrans surprising victory was a disproportionately high turnout in precincts with high Democratic registration. Mississippi law permits voters to cross party lines in primaries, but it prohibits members of one party who voted in their partys primary to participate in a runoff of the other party. It also bars them from voting in the runoff unless they intend to support the resulting nominee in the November election an unenforceable requirement, but one that showed that the intent of the election law was, in this case, to let Republicans determine their own nominee.
The tactics used to convince black Democrats to vote for Cochran included the same kind of race-baiting that Republicans have complained about for decades. The Tea Party Intends To Prevent Blacks From Voting on Tuesday was the headline on a flier that indefatigable journalist Charles Johnson (twitter #chuckcjohnson) discovered had been distributed in heavily black precincts before the June 23 vote. Along with that unfounded incendiary message was a list of issue comparisons between Cochran and Chris McDaniel. Cochran was credited with such unconservative positions as support for federal pork projects and food-stamp funding. The flier carried no identification as to who produced it, a violation of federal law.
Curiously, another flier put out by the pro-Cochran Mississippi Conservatives PAC last week described Cochrans positions in nearly identical language as the anonymous flier and even carried an identical photo of the senator. The slogan that Thad Cochran Supports All Mississippians is the same in both fliers.
I dont know who put it out, former governor Haley Barbour, who raised boatloads of money for the Mississippi Conservatives PAC, told my colleague Eliana Johnson. I cant imagine the Cochran campaign did that.
But the Mississippi Conservatives PAC did engage in its own questionable tactics. A mysterious robo-call went out to thousands of Democratic households just before the June 23 vote. The female narrators message was as follows: By not voting, you are saying take away all of my government programs, such as food stamps, early breakfast and lunch programs, millions of dollars to our black universities . . . everything we and our families depend on that comes from Washington will be cut.
As the Washington Examiner reported: It turns out that former Republican Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbours pro-Cochran Super PAC, Mississippi Conservatives, shelled out $44,000 for an offensive robo-call urging black Democrat voters to vote for Thad Cochran in the Republican primary Tuesday.
There has been much speculation about the offensive robo-call, which trashes the Tea Party for their disrespectful treatment of the first African American president. The female narrator claimed that Tea Party candidate Chris McDaniel would cause even more problems for President Obama.
As I said, the wounds from all of this are likely to be long lasting.
This just threw gasoline onto the flames of the civil war, Richard Viguerie, the author of Takeover: The 100 Year War for the GOPs Soul, told reporters this week. What happened yesterday in Mississippi will resonate for years to come. It will become the battle cry, just like the Alamo. We will remember Mississippi.
They’ve even lost Wallbanger!
He actually said he would not vote for Thad, much to the dismay of the great triangulator Dick Morris.
For the GOPe to lose a shill like Wallbanger indicates to me that they have really stepped in it...
Both parties are despicable.
The Founders never wanted political parties for the reason that political parties tend to be corrupt.
We need to clean house.
If McDaniel does not win a new election, then we will need to foster a write in campaign or in the alternative to support his opponent who is a pro-life, pro-gun candidate who voted against Obamacare.
However if we support him we have to ensure that everyone knows that we support him because of his efforts as a Congressman to go against the grain and not because we accept his views on other subjects.
I would suggest we start an organization such as "Reagan Republicans for Travis Childers."
Perhaps he would be more beholden to us peasants if he knew the only reason he won was because of "Reagan Republicans."
Either way we must make damn sure that Thad Cochran is not re-elected and is never again elected to anything. Thad Cochran is a low life scum sucking power hungry pig.
I could think of some other words, but the mods would pull my post.
John Fund used to be as establishment as it got.
“REMEMBER MISSISSIPPI!” has a nice ring to it.
I’ll be saying that to each “send funds” request I receive from “the GOP establishment”.
Of course, conservatives STILL need to pick strong challengers who can win. And McDaniels DID make mistakes.
Strong challengers will let us whittle away the power of big-spenders like Cochran and — eventually — push them out.
I don’t see how electing Democrats could encourage strong conservative candidates to disrupt their lives and step forward.
I don’t think 2 wrongs make a right - or fix what just happened.
This old fart isn’t going to make it 6 more years - his mind is going.
Keep your powder dry - remember Mississippi and make sure ALL the TRUE conservatives on the Hill know your anger and make them commit to candidates.
To hell with this “I won’t campaign against a GOP incumbent in a primary (or run-off) bs.
His staff can keep him active long after his brain is flat lined. His staff is owned lock stock and barrel by the McConnell crony capitalism crowd.
I think it is coming up to the time when the Tea Party must abandon the GOP and look to infiltrating the other side.
It may be time to go into these primaries and run "Reagan Democrats" (i.e., Patriotic Middle Class people) and getting our people in that way.
Surely both parties hate the Tea Party and all that we stand for, i.e, limited constitutional government), so why put all our eggs in one basket?
The Republican party is not our political savior. We are going to have to save this Republic on our own.
Start putting Reagan Republicans in the Democrat primaries. A lot of Republicans are in such red districts that they don't even have democrat opponents. And then they vote for the crony capitalist programs like Boehner and McConnell lackies.
It is time to sever the Tea Party ties to the Republican party. They don't want us, so let's give them what they want.
What if it was just a Demorat strategy, run by Demorats with no knowledge by Rino's or Chochran?
If there were participation by RINO's and/or Chochran, I can see feeling the same way as I did before; but if it was not?
Grab a pen, a pair of scissors and some tape.
Take one of those flyers and alter it so it looks like this:
Who says freepers aren't green?
This is how to RECYCLE.
Here's the context, and the problem. Democrats determined the Republican nominee, over and above the fact that a majority of Republicans supported McDaniel. - That's just wrong, and it's a foreshadowing of the early presidential primaries.
The only legal matter to be determined is what percentage of registered Democrats voting for Cochran in the run-off voted in the Democrat primary. As of last night, McDaniel said they had already found over a thousand. This is not an insignificant number, but the argument over tactics and the outrage clouds this issue.
Democrats should not be picking the nominees of the Republican party.
You make reasoned arguments.
I take it all back. After reading the HP article again; it does say a “conservative PAC” worked with the Demorats.
I take back my take back! I am confused as to what the article means by a conservative PAC when the label is a front to liberal churches!
It’s the proper name of a PAC that Barbour heavily funds.
EVERYONE wants to hold the “conservative” mantle, so they call themselves the “conservative” this and the “conservative” that and it fools enough people.
In this case they helped foot the bill to get out the black vote for Cochran.
The article states that, "The newly-formed PAC shares an address and chief financial officer with the church, raising questions about whether the church is illegally participating in the campaign." I'm assuming that it is an address to a liberal church. I am no freind of Barbour, but do you have a citation that implicatres him with this PAC? Because it is this PAC that got the Demorats to vote.
Of course, conservatives STILL need to pick strong challengers who can win. And McDaniels DID make mistakes.
Really?? What were they? I thought he waged a very uplifting and inspirational campaign!
I thought you were speaking about this:
“Mississippi Conservatives PAC did engage in its own questionable tactics”
Here's another thing, conservatives are actually one of the largest voting blocs in America. Social conservatives make up a large percentage of that conservative voting bloc, and a huge number of those are the Reagan Democrats --> Republicans.
It has long been said that Black Christians and Hispanic Christians, large proportions of those blocs, have more in line with the values of social conservatives than they do with progressive liberals. They believe in God, they desire strong families, and they want jobs. Many of them are pro-life.
It would be interesting to see what happened when old blue-collar Reagan democrats reunited with values concerned Christian democrats. Something might just get started.
That would be a large coalition.
All we need is Ronald Reagan II.
Yes, I was. And further down the story, it relates this PAC to an address to a Liberal church.
I saw that last night. When did they allow Morris back on FOX? I thought Ailes banned him for being so utterly wrong on his campaign prediction.
This story? Where?
EVERYONE wants to hold the conservative mantle, so they call themselves the conservative this and the conservative that and it fools enough people.
In this case they helped foot the bill to get out the black vote for Cochran.
You know, this is another thing that really peeves me about the RNC and the Republican Establishment. In all their mailers, these idiots apparently believe all they need to do to gain our support is gratuitously invoke Ronald Reagan's name, drop in the word “conservative” a couple dozen times to describe themselves, and drop in the word "liberal" a couple dozen times to denounce their opponents. This completely stale tactic might have fooled some of the conservative base 10 years ago but carries almost zero impact now. The conservative/Tea Party movement is far more sophisticated today and we actually judge our elected politicians’ by their ACTIONS, not because they SAY "vote for us because we're conservative and they're liberal" during campaign season.
Scorched Earth: Eric Cantors Staff, Supporters Drain Cash From Virginia GOP, Dave Brat
by David Steinberg June 26th, 2014 - 3:31 pm
After the skin-crawling exploitation of black voters in Mississippi, the GOPs current leadership wing gives a second demonstration, this time in Virginia, of just how committed they are to a big tent, or to the GOPs vitality in general. The Senate majority matters, the House majority matters. But this partys leadership is infested with the same disregard for Washingtons intended purpose as any Clintonian.
Third parties fail. But what cost does remaining aligned with this generation of GOP leadership take from the cause of liberty and transparency?
This week? He sends Ray Allen read anything Ive published at PJM the last few months for background on this Tammany Hall-style thug to proxy a budget vote for the seat Cantor really really earnestly hopes the GOP holds.On the next page is local Virginia blogger and grassroots organizer Jamie Radtke with the details. Do read to the end as a member of the GOP, of any stripe from McCain to Cruz, I do hope Radtkes coverage encourages you to reclaim your party from these rent-seeking parasites
Ray Allen, Mike Thomas, Donald Williams and ten other Cantor supporters continued their assault on the grassroots last night with a 13-6 vote on the committee to bleed the 7th District GOP bank account. Here is how it happened
Last night at the Goochland Library the 7th District GOP Committee held their first meeting under the new chairmanship of Fred Gruber. [Ed. note: Gruber is the Tea Party-backed chairman who defeated Cantor's favored incumbent, Linwood Cobb, which came weeks before Cantor's loss.] The Treasurers Report showed that the 7th CD Committee had approximately $470,000 cash on hand, with almost the entire amount coming from Cantors Victory Fund. (As an aside, can the other side please stop bemoaning the loss of Linwood Cobbs fundraising prowess? The man did nothing to raise money. He simply cashed the Cantor checks.) Ray Allen and Mike Thomas (who are not elected members of the 7th District Committee) were conveniently in attendance, carrying a voting members proxy, so that they could vote on the motions. [UPDATE: Ray Allen held a proxy for a voting member (Kristi Way - Cantor's Chief of Staff); it is not clear whether Mike Thomas held a voting or nonvoting proxy.]
An initial motion was made by conservatives on the Committee to spend approximately $288K of the money to help Gillespie/Brat win in November, while saving the balance for future elections. Specifically, conservatives wanted to spend $288K to build a sophisticated grassroots operation for each of the ten counties in the 7th District to help with general election voter turnout in November. It would have far exceeded any sort of GOP victory efforts in the past, with each county having the necessary resources, talent, and technical support to increase our voter margins in November. This proposal was flatly denied.
Chesterfield GOP Chairman, Donald Williams, made a substitute motion to give $150,000 to to the Republican National Committee (RNC), $150,000 to the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC), $25,000 to Ben Chafin who is running to replace the state senate seat of Phil Puckett down in southwest Virginia, $12,866 to the Republican Party of Virginia so that GOP units in the 7th district could obtain i360 data licenses, and $5,000 to all Virginia congressional campaign leaving only approximately $86,000 in the 7th district bank account.
Interestingly, this proposal basically gave NOTHING to 7th District election efforts in November, only allocating a total of $12,866 to purchase i360 data licenses!!! The 7th District Committee decided they had no interest in growing the GOP and turning out the vote in their own district, they would rather give their money to Washington D.C.!
The Cantor allies on the 7th District Committee even slighted their own state party, not giving the Republican Party of Virginia a dime! Why do I say this? Because RPV is simply being used a pass thru to pay for i360 licenses for the 10 GOP units in the 7th District. RPV doesnt get to keep a dime of the $12,866 they are being sent. Make no mistake, this is retribution for Pat Mullins standing up against the slating tactics of Eric Cantor, Ray Allen and Mike Thomas. Their intentions were exposed when Fred Gruber tried to offer a compromise amendment to the Cantor/Allen/Thomas/Williams budget that the $300K going to the RNC and NRCC be split three ways so that RPV would at least get $100K. This proposal was also flatly denied. No money to the RPV and only $12,866 to 7th District operations.
You need to know how your local GOP members voted. Only 6 members voted against this proposal to bleed the money from the 7th District bank account. Those were:Fred Gruber ChairmanBen Slone Goochland Unit ChairmanNick Freitas Culpeper Unit ChairmanMark Daniel New Kent Unit ChairmanJordan Marshall Orange Unit ChairmanRobert Stuber Spotsylvania Unit Chairman
Here are the members who voted to raid the 7th district account and send the money outside of the 7th District:
Donald Williams Chesterfield Unit Chairman
Chris Obenshain Richmond City Unit Chairman
Nancy Russell Hanover County Unit Chairman
Don Boswell Henrico County Unit Chairman
Graven Craig Louisa County Unit Chairman
Liza Bradford VFRW District 7 Rep
Kate Rennolds Young Republican Rep
Klarke Kilgore (proxy) College Republican Rep
Jane Ladd State Central Presidential Rep
David Fuller State Central Congressional Rep
Doug Rogers State Central rep
Marie Quinn State Central rep
Kristi Way (proxy) State Central rep
So now you know who is truly for building the party and grassroots in the 7th District and who simply wants to protect turf, punish the grassroots, and keep the local party small and ineffective.
Folks, where do you think that money is going after it makes it to the RNC or NRCC?
I did post Radtkes entire post here, but do visit her blog, The Bull Elephant, and thank her for the excellent coverage. Journalists like her are why, occasionally, the bad guys in Washington get sent home.
Please read my first post - post 8.
And further down the story, it relates this PAC to an address to a Liberal church
Where are you seeing this. Maybe I missed it but I don’t
find that relation in the article.
How can the RINO backstabbers make it right? Withdraw Cochran and declare McDaniels the nominee.
They've gone too far. The vast majority of constitutional conservatives ARE NOT racists. For heaven's sake, we're the ones that want to stop the genocide of blacks through abortion and to employ US citizen blacks instead of hispanic invaders.
I'm beyound disgusted. The establishment 'pubs in the US Senate are no longer the "lesser of two evils".
The Republican Party is the party of the incumbent.
The mailers have much in common with an Obama speech. Long on platitudes and generalities.
McDaniels made mistakes, yes. But he also won in a fair fight.
Cochrane's campaign went beyond the pale.
Not only lost Wallbanger. They also lost the Republican party. Because now the Democrats have a fired up base that they can use against Cochran.
Mississippi was deep red for a reason. Within the next two cycles, Mississippi will be a blue state.
Of course, he isn’t going to serve his six year term. That’s why it was so important for him to win, so Haley Barbour could choose his corrupt replacement. They wanted one of their guys in the seat, not Chris McDaniel. THey think they own that seat not the people. Cochran needs to lose. No way I would vote for that corrupt sleazebag after the tactics they employed in MS to “win” with Democrat votes. I’d vote for the Democrat if I lived in Mississippi. He’ll be easier to beat next time around, especially if he votes lockstep with his party once in DC.
A pro gun, pro life, anti obamacare democrat? I don't live in Mississippi but I would break my life long policy against voting for any democrat, in order to vote against Cochran.
Some estimates show that the Dems and GOP each have just over 20% of the voting age population, while non-party or other party affiliations and independents make up about 40%.
The problem is cultural, too. The ‘conservative’ Democrats, just like the ‘conservative’ Republicans, hold on to their party affiliation, because it goes back generations.
Then, there are the wobblers who keep advocating that the change must be within the respective party. [How well has that been going since 2000?] Keep the party and throw out the rats/rinos. That does not always work because, especially with the Senate, incumbency is difficult to defeat.
Instead, people keep voting for the same and expecting a different result. But, as soon as many of those politicians cross the Potomac, they get beltway-itis and become enamoured of the power and money and politics. Those already in Washington have developed many great friendships with those from across the aisle. Thus, anything resembling an effective opposition party disappeared years ago.
Post #27 needs it’s own thread...
Re: “Democrats should not be picking the nominees of the Republican party.”
That’s why we must pay for and manage our own primary elections.
When Republicans pay the bills, we can write the primary election rules any way we like.
I thought the attempt to embarrass Cochran with pix of his wife was about as dirty as politics gets.
I think this election shows how much better the Rats are at seeing the "long game". They have now created a great opportunity for a Rat to beat cochran. The GOPe is so concerned with keeping their perks that they get out maneuvered at every turn.
I hope Childers wins. I hope Mconnell loses. I don't really care if the Pubs as presently constituted win the Senate.
You seem to expect political campaigns to be fair. Why?
He's already on the scene! Ted Cruz, Scott Walker both come to mind.
For instance, 89% of white voters supported Romney in 2012.
If that voting bloc starts to break down, Cochran could easily lose this election.
And, the news gets worse.
The Democrat nominee for Senate is a Congressman with a moderate record:
He voted against ObamaCare.
He is pro-Life and pro-Gun.
In 2010, he was endorsed by the NRA and by “Right to Life.”
I spoke at length with John Fund at a Freeper pro-impeachment rally where he also gave a speech, way back in 1999. The gist of his speech was that all of us, himself included, should be proud to be part of the vast right wing conspiracy that was undermining the Clinton Administration's pro-statist and corrupt agenda.
He was Tea Party long before there was Tea Party.
Prospecting for Democrat votes in an open primary is a legitimate tactic. But Cochrane's campaign went over the line when it aimed racist slurs at fellow Republicans.
If you subscribe to the tea party, you've just been tarred as a racist -- by the very party you normally vote for and identify with.
There are thousands of committed, conservative blacks who have been working to improve the image of the party among blacks. And this particular campaign tactic cut the legs right out from under them.
The fact of the matter is that the GOP-e's campaign tactics did more damage to the Republican brand than it did good for the Cochrane campaign.
The Democrats had Weekend-at-Lautenberg's vote in their pocket for many years after his mind left for that great socialist utopia in the sky.
That's the model the GOP is copying with Cochran. They'll stick a battery up his butt if his heart stops.
"Meanwhile, Bishop Ronnie Crudup, Sr. of the New Horizon Church in Jackson is affiliated with a super PAC called "All Citizens For Mississippi" that has run advertisements and distributed pro-Cochran fliers. The newly-formed PAC shares an address and chief financial officer with the church, raising questions about whether the church is illegally participating in the campaign."
From the story in my post; There is money from this church PAC as well. Thew difference is, they are straightforward about what they wanted to do - get Democrats from their churches to vote for Cochran (which is illegal, but hey; there Demorats and get away with it!).
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