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Minnesota's 10% biodiesel mandate starts Tuesday
Pioneer Press ^ | 6-27-14 | tom webb

Posted on 06/27/2014 12:45:45 PM PDT by TurboZamboni

fter years of starts and stops, the next frontier has finally arrived for biodiesel.

Starting Tuesday, Minnesota will require all diesel fuel sold here to contain at least 10 percent biodiesel -- except during the winter, when the requirement will be 5 percent biodiesel.

Currently, state law requires every gallon of diesel fuel to contain at least 5 percent biodiesel -- and 2 percent during the winter -- so supporters are excited to see Minnesota raise the bar to a highest-in-the-nation level.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: agw; farmpimps; globalwarming; manbearpig; mandated; nofoodforoil; scam; soybeans; welfare

1 posted on 06/27/2014 12:45:45 PM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: Dead Corpse

Didn’t you have trouble with the fuel in the school buses freezing the last couple of winters already? Think they’d learn something ...


2 posted on 06/27/2014 12:49:30 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Let the storm rage on ... the cold never bothered me anyway.)
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To: TurboZamboni; sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; muleskinner; ...

Rest In Peace, old friend, your work is finished.....

If you want ON or OFF the DIESEL ”KnOcK” LIST jut FReepmail me..... This is a fairly HIGH VOLUME ping list on some days.....

3 posted on 06/27/2014 12:49:34 PM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 2,743 threads and 84,837 replies.)
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To: TurboZamboni

The most LIKELY result of a demand for a boutique fuel like 10% biodiesel will be higher prices and FUEL SHORTAGES! Remember Gas Lines? Think DIESEL LINES!


4 posted on 06/27/2014 12:51:42 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: TurboZamboni
I recently bought my third diesel.The first two were specifically said by the manufacturer to take nothing more than B5.Both instruction manuals said that use of anything higher voided the warranty.My current diesel,according to the fuel filling door,can take up to B7.Presumably the use of anything higher voids the warranty.

Do legislators give a rat's hindquarters about this issue?

5 posted on 06/27/2014 12:55:27 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Tax-chick

Apparently you didn’t read the article which says that “....supporters are excited to see Minnesota raise the bar to a highest-in-the-nation level.”? /s/

I guess maybe we shouldn’t worry about these standards. After all, we do have global warming on the way.


6 posted on 06/27/2014 12:55:41 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Tax-chick

Stalled Minnesota school buses fuel biodiesel mandate debate
http://www.startribune.com/local/south/37748654.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUnciatkEP7DhUsr#0lb5RQp1UOIJbIdt.97

Extreme cold and biodiesel fuel don’t mix, as school districts and truckers found during the recent cold snap.

Bloomington Public Schools closed Friday after biodiesel fuel required to be used under state law gelled in about a dozen school buses due to subzero temperatures. The problem left some students at bus stops on Thursday morning for as long as 30 minutes or sitting on stalled buses.

In the south metro area, the Rosemount-Apple Valley-Eagan School District started school two hours late Friday after a similar problem with biodiesel fuel in about a dozen buses the day before.


7 posted on 06/27/2014 12:55:53 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: TurboZamboni

The problem with these mandates is that there is no sustainable feedstock for biodiesel. Soybeans are worth FAR more for food uses, and we can export every single bean we don’t need for a premium price (think about who eats tofu and soy sauce). Restaurants used to have to pay to have yellow grease (old fryer oil) hauled away, but now the biodiesel makers have created a sellers market and compete for what is naturally a very limited supply. Oil-rich plants lik eJatropha don’t grow here and even ones that do compete for farm real estate with more profitable crops like corn and soybeans. Algae sounds great on paper but there is NO viable large-scale production process that make sense.

Maybe someday a feedstock will be found that can allow biodiesel to grow, but gov’t mandates that prevent the free market forces from working is the reason over half of the biodiesel plants in existence are sitting idle, rusting away, til they’re sold for pennies on the dollar.


8 posted on 06/27/2014 12:57:48 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: TurboZamboni

Let the enviroripoffs begin! Show me da money!


9 posted on 06/27/2014 12:59:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Feed the wacko enrviromentalists to the starving polar bears.)
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To: Grams A

“Supporters” of this crap are stupid, pardon my bluntness.


10 posted on 06/27/2014 1:00:33 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Let the storm rage on ... the cold never bothered me anyway.)
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To: TurboZamboni

The Government should just mandate the creation of a perpetual motion machine.


11 posted on 06/27/2014 1:01:06 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: thackney

one more way to make people ride light rail in the metro and artifically inflate their ridership numbers.


12 posted on 06/27/2014 1:06:49 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Gay State Conservative

they don’t care about you or your money , other than to demand more of it.


13 posted on 06/27/2014 1:08:05 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: TurboZamboni

Feeding the corn growers ping.


14 posted on 06/27/2014 1:12:52 PM PDT by onona (I’ve pretty much given up on sanity returning.)
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To: Tax-chick

I wholeheartedly agree that they are, indeed, stupid. The greenies ran up the price of everything using corn or its byproducts so that we can no longer afford it as a food and they are going to do the same thing to anything that contains soybeans.

I have a 2004 car and when I was complaining about ethanol ruining my engine, one of the village idiots said the solution was simple, “just buy a new car”. How about just stopping trying to make fuel out of something that God designed to be used as food.

The entire world has gone mad.


15 posted on 06/27/2014 1:22:08 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A
The entire world has gone mad.

Excellent summary. I wonder if I should cough up for the "ethanol free" gas for my 1984 RX-7.

16 posted on 06/27/2014 1:23:48 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Let the storm rage on ... the cold never bothered me anyway.)
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To: Tax-chick

“I wonder if I should cough up for the “ethanol free” gas for my 1984 RX-7.”

You could pay a little more for corn juice-free fuel now or pay a whole lot later when your engine is ruined.


17 posted on 06/27/2014 1:42:01 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: 43north

That’s what I thought. My uncle put a new engine in it less than 1,000 miles ago.


18 posted on 06/27/2014 1:43:57 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Let the storm rage on ... the cold never bothered me anyway.)
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To: TurboZamboni

I bet farmers got themselves exempted from this mandate as they have from fuel taxes. Farm groups keep pushing for more biofuels so they grow rich from high grain prices. However, try to find any farm machinery that runs on 85% ethanol or biodiesel. I expect to see a lot of trucks stalled on Minnesota highways this winter.


19 posted on 06/27/2014 1:59:54 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Tax-chick

You have my very favorite car. Used to have one but then had a grandson and my daughter got tired of riding in the “sort of” back seat because obviously the baby couldn’t ride there. Loved it because I could pretty much get my whole life in the back.

Tried to find some ethanol free stations close to me but would use all the gas up just getting back home because none are near.


20 posted on 06/27/2014 2:39:21 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Illinois diesel usually contains about 11 percent biodiesel. When VW TDI owners asked VW the answer was "All Volkswagen TDI models are warranted for the use of up to a B5 blend. Blends of biodiesel higher than B5 void the Volkswagen warranty."

After alot of back and forth since VW TDI owners in Illinois had no alternative to the higher biodiesel, VWOA basically stating that they will honor warranties in IL where there may be up to 20% Bioblend.

Wonder if this was a corporate move or Illinois forcing VW to change.

21 posted on 06/27/2014 3:20:27 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Grams A

It was my dad’s. My uncle had it for about 20 years, and just sent it to me earlier this month. I feel 17 in it, and Dad’s sitting next to me with a gin and tonic in his hand, saying, “Easy on the clutch there, baby - I’ll spill my drink!”


22 posted on 06/27/2014 3:37:34 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Let the storm rage on ... the cold never bothered me anyway.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Human survival rule #1 DO NOT BURN YOUR FOOD!


23 posted on 06/27/2014 3:58:52 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: TurboZamboni

Human survival rule #1 DO NOT BURN YOUR FOOD!


24 posted on 06/27/2014 3:59:00 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Tax-chick

I’m so envious!


25 posted on 06/27/2014 4:12:08 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Tax-chick

Yep... Morons.


26 posted on 06/28/2014 6:40:30 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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