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Boehner to Seek Bill to Sue Obama Over Executive Actions
The New York Times ^ | Wednesday, June 25, 2014 | Ashley Parker

Posted on 06/27/2014 5:01:18 PM PDT by Star Traveler

WASHINGTON — Speaker John A. Boehner announced Wednesday that he would introduce legislation next month allowing the House to sue President Obama over his use of executive actions.

In a letter to lawmakers, Mr. Boehner expressed concern with what he — and many in the Republican conference — considered the president’s unconstitutional overreach.

“The Constitution makes it clear that a president’s job is to faithfully execute the laws; in my view, the president has not faithfully executed the laws,” Mr. Boehner told reporters. “And when there’s conflicts like this between the legislative branch and the administrative branch it’s, in my view, our responsibility to stand up for this institution in which we serve.”

Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, the Democratic leader, called Mr. Boehner’s move “subterfuge,” and Josh Earnest, the White House press secretary, said that “it seems that Republicans have shifted their opposition into a higher gear.”

“Frankly, it’s a gear that I didn’t know previously existed,” Mr. Earnest said. “The fact that they are considering a taxpayer-funded lawsuit against the president of the United States for doing his job, I think, is the kind of step that most Americans wouldn’t support.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boehmer; boehner; boehnerlawsuit; impeachobama; oldnews
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After the US Supreme Court has slapped down Obama 12 times in the past, this stands a good chance of slapping him down again. Stop Obama in any and every way you can, leaving nothing undone!
1 posted on 06/27/2014 5:01:19 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

crybaby likes to kick up dust and talk about doing something than actually doing it.

he is worthless and should have already been replaced.


2 posted on 06/27/2014 5:04:25 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: kingattax

maybe next month .... sort’a


3 posted on 06/27/2014 5:05:57 PM PDT by knarf (brooklyn bridge)
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To: kingattax

No matter who is doing it ... I like this kind of legal action against Obama! I’m all for it.


4 posted on 06/27/2014 5:07:25 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: knarf

It’s gotta be done ... sooner or later. Obama has to be knocked down and any future copy-cat Obama has to have the door closed.


5 posted on 06/27/2014 5:09:16 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Exactly what are they suing for? What damages?

I can imagine figurative damages as in damages to the reputation of the United States.

What will a judge sign in the order? Will he sign that the POTUS must rescind his EOs? And what of separation of powers?

I would like to see Obama prosecuted on another of fronts but there is only one way to deal with his actions and that is impeachment.

But I don’t get what or how a lawsuit accomplishes anything.

If the court throws out Boehner’s suit, the the GOP has egg on their face. And it is a possibility because of separation of powers.

Boehnor’s actions here make no sense and are risky.


6 posted on 06/27/2014 5:11:25 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

They lost a similar type of action with the Defense of Marriage Act - but I think this one won’t be like that.

Let’s hope the US Supreme Court slaps down Obama - again - making it THIRTEEN TIMES of slapping Obama silly by the US Supreme Court!


7 posted on 06/27/2014 5:15:22 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Levin who has practiced before the court besides filing several “amicus” briefs through his foundation seems to feel any suit Bohner would file would have no standing. But individuals and entities; companies,cities,and states affected by Obama’s unconstituional modifications in Obamacare among other edicts would.


8 posted on 06/27/2014 5:19:23 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: mosesdapoet

They would have standing as a “body” - the US House of Representatives. It’s a Constitutional issue of the President treading on the Comstitutional powers of the US House of Representatives.

“That body” - the US House of Representatives - is the only one who would have standing.


9 posted on 06/27/2014 5:22:28 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Boehner is an idiot, there isn't even a hint that a Speaker can sue the idiot in the oval office, in the US Constitution, What the House can do is impeach the illegal immigrant, su9ng it isn't a Constitutional option, but then again, who gives a damn about the Constitution, surely not the idiot in the oval office or either of the fools leading the two branches of the Congress, the nuts in the Supreme Court, the military or p0lice.

Please Lord Jesus, let us in Maine secede on June 12, 2018, let it be Thy will Lord. Amen.

10 posted on 06/27/2014 5:25:21 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: Star Traveler

Lawsuits are for when you are injured. When the president hurts the nation, it is tie foe impeachment.


11 posted on 06/27/2014 5:27:03 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Star Traveler

I’m sure the Attorney General will expedite this important case and put it on the top of his priority list.


12 posted on 06/27/2014 5:29:15 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

It wouldn’t be the Speaker, it would be the U.S. House of Representatives.


13 posted on 06/27/2014 5:31:57 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: kingattax

it may not work but worth a try - instead of putting him down why not get behind him and support the legislation.

The Republican leadership needs to go on a nationwide push to pick up support - conservatives like FR get on the phone, write opinion pieces, etc. It is a long shot but all things are possible.


14 posted on 06/27/2014 5:32:44 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: R_Kangel

It wouldn’t be handled by him ... :-) ...


15 posted on 06/27/2014 5:33:02 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: bigbob

The President was just slapped down in one in the last few days - which was posted here on Free Republic. That makes 12 times, which has severely impacted what Obama “wanted” to do.

I say keep doing it over and over again, until he’s gone.


16 posted on 06/27/2014 5:34:59 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

John Boehner has a vagina.


17 posted on 06/27/2014 5:57:28 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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To: Eddie01

Will that help the US House of Representatives in their arguments with the US Supreme Court? ... :-) ...


18 posted on 06/27/2014 6:02:34 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Hostage

They make sense if you want to act like you are doing something.

It is a stunt, that takes the pressure of actually doing something.


19 posted on 06/27/2014 6:03:46 PM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being pissed on by their own party!)
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To: Star Traveler

Waste of time.


20 posted on 06/27/2014 6:06:02 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

Hey Boner, how about you pass a bill invalidating those EO’s?


21 posted on 06/27/2014 6:06:29 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: jwalsh07

The previous 12 KNOCK-DOWNS of Obama by the US Supreme Court weren’t a waste of time.

I don’t think making it THIRTEEN would be a waste, either.


22 posted on 06/27/2014 6:07:58 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Will this really happen?


23 posted on 06/27/2014 6:09:30 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: GeronL

I do believe that’s what this court action would be about - with the US Supreme Court striking down Obama’s ability to do so by trampling on the Constitutional prerogative of the US House of Representatives.


24 posted on 06/27/2014 6:10:56 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: freekitty

It is pointless.

A lawsuit is asinine. The Congress can curtail the executive branch and even abolish whole agencies and departments. The court will tell them to do their job.


25 posted on 06/27/2014 6:12:05 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: freekitty

The US House of Representatives will vote on it making it so that they have “standing” as a “body”. If they agree and pass it ... then it will happen. I believe they do have the votes to make it happen.


26 posted on 06/27/2014 6:12:44 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Boehner is running out the clock, same as Obama.

He knows Reid in the Senate would never consider such a bill. This is just another waste of time, as is his lawsuit against Obama.

The 2 options - impeachment & the power of the purse - that could rein in Obama’s imperial presidency NOW, Boehner isn't doing.

Impeachment proceedings would keep Obama so busy for months it would limit his ability to do further damage to this country. I believe it would also put his arrogance on full display for all to finally see.

As for the purse, cut off the budgets of his 2 favorite bullies - the Justice Dept. & the EPA. Shut them down. Refuse to fund them in the upcoming budget until the IRS emails reappear & Holder resigns.

This country can do nicely without the brand of justice Holder serves, so nothing lost there. Similarly for the EPA, nobody is gonna die from any increases in CO2 emissions or wildlife found dead in dry runoff ditches.

If that doesn't get Obama’s attention, then in the next budget stop the funding of other federal bureaucracies - IRS, NRLB, HHS, ....

Obama cannot make the House fund ANYTHING. It just takes 218 honorable, patriotic Congressmen to stop his agenda COLD.

27 posted on 06/27/2014 6:14:19 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Star Traveler

Well then you better think again. By the time it reaches SCOTUS Obama will be the King of Kenya. It won’t make a damn bit of difference and it just distracts from the IRS scandal which is resonating across all party lines.


28 posted on 06/27/2014 6:16:27 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Mister Da

suing Obama is stupid. The House writes the budget, they could easily curtail these things if they had the political will. The GOPE has no political will to actually do anything.


29 posted on 06/27/2014 6:16:36 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Star Traveler
>>this stands a good chance of slapping him down again<<

Sorry to say and perhaps I'm just a bit more cynical, but this is nothing more than a political dog and pony show leading up to the elections in the fall.

The remedy for an out of control executive branch is impeachment. A law suit would likely be tied up in the courts for years and a decision would likely come well after obozo leaves our house.

Constitution subscribes impeachment.

30 posted on 06/27/2014 6:30:51 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: GeronL

The whole purpose of a lawsuit or any thing else is to make it appear that they are actually doing something.

Nothing will actually happen.

It is all smoke and mirrors.


31 posted on 06/27/2014 6:31:51 PM PDT by Clay Moore
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To: servantboy777

I’m not saying this “out of the blue” ... but from the real facts of TWELVE US Supreme Court decisions, already, against him. Now what if all of those twelve court cases had listened to people saying, “it’s not going to do any good!” There IS a track record already.

As far as Impeachment is concerned, that is the ultimate Constitutional provision, but we’ve got a track record on that, too. The most recent example is Clinton and although there was Impeachment, it went ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE after that. The Democrats would not convict. And you can bet the Democrats are not going to convict with Obama either.

Another aspect of the Impeachment process is that it has NEVER ONCE in the ENTIRE HISTORY of this country resulted in this process removing a President from office.

SO ... compared with 12 US Supreme Court decisions slapping down Obama already - with - Impeachment and it’s record of NEVER ONCE WORKING ... I’ll stick with the US Supreme Court cases ... :-) ...


32 posted on 06/27/2014 6:51:07 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Clay Moore

12 US Supreme Court decisions slapping down Obama - one just a few days ago - is not smoke and mirrors ... :-) ...


33 posted on 06/27/2014 6:52:36 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: GeronL

The budget has to go through the entire Congress, while this case only has to be done, and exclusively so, in the US House of Reoresentatives.


34 posted on 06/27/2014 6:54:34 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

and the courts will laugh at them. The Congress can limit and rescind these EO’s and it hasn’t even tried.


35 posted on 06/27/2014 6:56:32 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Mister Da

You’ve made a mistake here. This is just for the US House of Representatives. That’s why it will go through ... the Senate is not involved.

In terms of Impeachment, you can see Post # 32”... as far as it’s track record.


36 posted on 06/27/2014 6:58:15 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: GeronL

The Congress includes the Senate and that’s the problem. This case doesn’t involve the Senate and it can go ahead without them. There’s the difference.

Remember, the US Supreme Court wasn’t laughing for the last 12 cases where they slapped down Obama, and that include some just this week, a few days ago.

This can very easily be another one, except this one will be more drastic than the others in limiting Obama.


37 posted on 06/27/2014 7:02:03 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: jwalsh07

How much did those other twelve US Supreme Court cases slapping down Obama distract you (or others) from the IRS scandal? ... :-) ...


38 posted on 06/27/2014 7:04:46 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

They don’t follow the Constitution.

They don’t follow the law.

What makes me think they are going to follow what SCOTUS says?


39 posted on 06/27/2014 7:10:22 PM PDT by Clay Moore
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To: Clay Moore

Can you show me where any one of those 12 US Supreme Court decisions against Obama was not followed?


40 posted on 06/27/2014 7:16:55 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

You’re not getting the time frame thing Star. Obama will be gone long before the courts are done with this. That is why it is a waste of time. If Republicans were serious they would defund any law that Obama creates or destroys but they are not serious people. Sad but true. At any rate I can live with our difference of opinion here. No biggie.


41 posted on 06/27/2014 7:19:18 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

If you look over other Constitutional issues in the history of our country, they go through many administrations. We’ve got Constitutional issues going on right now that have gone on for over 50 years!

You always want to get Constitutional issues dealt with as soon as you can and we’ve got one right now with Obama and him stepping on the “Constitutional turf” of the US House of Representatives.

The problem with defunding is that it takes the Senate, too ... and that’s not going to happen.


42 posted on 06/27/2014 7:26:58 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
No, I don't think I have made a mistake.

Legislation is not law w/o both houses concurring. Boehner is seeking the right to sue the President which requires a change in the law affecting the relationship between 2 branches of government.

Constitution, Article 1, section 7:

Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it........

43 posted on 06/27/2014 7:44:53 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Star Traveler

I am aware that the decisions have come down but have not heard that any have been followed.

Perhaps I am not paying close enough attention.

I just don’t see where we get out of this mess in one piece.
Our children or grandchildren will likely never see a fraction of the freedom we knew growing up.


44 posted on 06/27/2014 7:45:31 PM PDT by Clay Moore
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To: Mister Da

They are not passing a law ... they want to have “standing” as a “body” (the body being the US House of Representatives) ... therefore the vote being passed by the House shows that the court case is from “that body” - the US House of Representatives.


45 posted on 06/27/2014 7:47:32 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Clay Moore

It’s definitely a problem, but it’s not a problem that cannot be undone. It might not be quickly undone, but it can be in time.


46 posted on 06/27/2014 7:49:27 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Eddie01
John Boehner has a vagina.

So does Sarah Palin. Are you trying to make a point, jerk?

47 posted on 06/27/2014 7:50:37 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Star Traveler
Without the weight of law, their “standing” is but their own opinion, worthless in court.

The courts will toss this in about 1-2 years, & by then Obama will have destroyed even more of this nation.

The courts are where you go to get s-l-o-w justice. The purse strings could be cut next budget season, while impeachment could begin the second week of November.

Boehner is a coward, a weak leader motivated by self interest. We need a hero leader who will jump into the water to save this country, not a fool who thinks draining the lake is the most prudent action.

48 posted on 06/27/2014 8:08:18 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Mister Da

If the US House of Representatives acts as a body, that is standing for them. It’s different if it’s simply a handful of Representatives who jointly decide they are going to file a court case. That “handful” wouldn’t speak for the entire body, you see. That’s what they’re doing here, in order to initiate the case.

As far as “tossing it” ... I’m glad you weren’t advising those in the 12 US Supreme Court cases that slapped down Obama. I’m sure you would have advised them that it was useless and their cases would be “tossed” ... LOL ...


49 posted on 06/27/2014 8:20:39 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Well, you might be right, I'm not a lawyer nor legislator, but I doubt it.

You may be willing to wait through 1-2 years of court challenges, & we know Boehner knows the Rats will challenge this in court, but the country cannot afford to wait.

Clever legislators often pursue useless goals to pacify annoying constituents, donors, & the public.

50 posted on 06/27/2014 8:42:28 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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