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The Scary Reason Some Men Like Guns Better Than Women (Barf Alert)
New York Magazine ^ | Ann Friedman

Posted on 06/27/2014 11:19:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The first time I lived alone, my third year of college, I rented a tiny apartment from the type of university-town pseudo-slumlord you’re familiar with if you went to a big state school in a smallish city. His name was Rob, and I wasn’t scared of him — or of living on my own — until I sat down in his office to go over the lease and saw a sign hanging above his desk. It said, “10 reasons why a handgun is better than a woman.”

(8) If you admire a friend's handgun, and tell him so, he will probably let you try it out a few times. (6) Your handgun will stay with you even if you are out of ammo. (4) Handguns function normally every day of the month.

I have been lucky enough not to know too many violent men in my life. And even though I grew up in a part of the country where hunting and gun shows are common, and gun laws are relatively lax, I didn’t know many gun enthusiasts, either. The landlord’s list rattled me. I thought of that scene in Kubrick’s Full Metal Jacket, where the drill sergeant barks, “You will give your rifle a girl's name, because this is the only pussy you people are going to get."

When I read that list over my landlord’s shoulder, it was years before George Sodini mass-murdered women in a fitness center in 2009. Before Elliot Rodger went on a killing spree to teach women a lesson. Before social media helped us catalogue dozens of disparate murders every month in which women were killed by men they knew and, at one point in time, loved. The headlines have come to reflect the message of the list in a way that is chillingly consistent: These men control guns. These men wish they controlled women. These men use guns to control women. What was once perceived as the stuff of women’s-studies classes has become routine news analysis.

Rather than back away from the theme, the gun lobby is leaning into it. A recent episode of "Noir," a National Rifle Association–sponsored web series by a popular YouTube vlogger and gun enthusiast named Colion Noir, features a sexy shot of a woman in Jimmy Choos, alone on a dark street. “Unaffected elegance. Too cool elegance. Not for you elegance, you say. There's got to be something wrong with her; that attitude, high maintenance, hiding something.” The voice-over continues, “She's not easy, and she's not flawless. But she's never wasted her time thinking about it.” It’s the sort of feminine ideal put forth in a million lad-mag profiles.

“She is the HK MR556.”

Oh, wait. She’s a gun. "The HK MR556 is that gun that if — it's like that girl who's unbelievably attractive, she has this presence about her that seems untouchable, and she's not apologetic about her beauty,” Noir goes on to say. A good gun is like a good woman. Seemingly unattainable, but actually available for purchase. Difficult, but something you can master and control. The woman in the Jimmy Choos might decide to leave you, sue you for alimony, take up with another man. But the gun, which has all of the woman’s best attributes, will always be there and never ask you for anything. The NRA video aired less than a month after the Isla Vista killings, which were committed by a guy who failed to own the best women, so he bought the best guns instead.

Conflating women and guns is nothing new. Anyone who's been to a gun show will tell you they’re rife with bumper stickers commenting on the relative utility of women versus firearms (like: “My wife YES, My dog MAYBE, My gun NEVER!”) and jokes about bloodsucking ex-wives. In her book Gun Show Nation, Joan Burbick tells a story about being barred from a firearms show because she was carrying a camera. When she asked why no photography was allowed, the organizer gave her a one-word answer: alimony. The gun enthusiasts didn’t want their photos showing up anywhere their ex-wives might see them.

“Wives were threats. Girlfriends were threats. Women who talked too much were threats,” Burdick continues. “And women who held public office and wouldn't shut up were the scourge of the land. I have also picked up bumper stickers at gun shows that said: I JUST GOT A GUN FOR MY WIFE. IT'S THE BEST TRADE I EVER MADE.” You can own a gun. Physically and legally take possession of it. There’s no fear of rejection. It can’t divorce you. It can’t ask for alimony payments. You pull the trigger, it responds.

Paradoxically, the NRA also actively courts female members. “Come explore, connect, celebrate and unite with the women of NRA,” beckons the NRA Women's channel, alongside clips with names like “Armed and Fabulous” and “Love at First Shot.” (They’re “stories of empowered women like you,” per the site.) Companies offering products like pink rifles and bra holsters promise to help women “look feminine, look good, and still feel safe.”

In light of all the messages comparing women to guns, it’s strangely easy to see the you-go-girl appeal of these pseudo-feminist campaigns: If you’re in control of a firearm, it’s harder for men to conflate you with it. But they can still use it against you. When women are on the receiving end of so much intimate gun violence, it’s difficult to argue that widespread, easy access can only empower them. For years the NRA defended laws that kept guns in the hands of known domestic abusers. Which makes it all the more chilling to recall the No. 1 reason on my college landlord’s list of reasons why guns are better than women: “You can buy a silencer for a handgun.” The sickening truth is you can buy a silencer for a woman. It’s a called a handgun.


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1 posted on 06/27/2014 11:19:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

The American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the Colonists.

The British military governor of Massachusetts reasoned that the Colonists did not need weapons. After all, there hadn’t been an Indian attack in years.

Which side of that battle would you have been on Ann?


2 posted on 06/27/2014 11:26:53 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: nickcarraway

What a hoplophobe.

The author should hitch a ride on SpaceX’s Dragon and space themself.


3 posted on 06/27/2014 11:27:11 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a pessimist, I say plenty of negative things. Consider it a warning of sorts.)
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To: nickcarraway

A truly putrid article demonizing men. This is feminist supremacy writ large

“Before Elliot Rodger went on a killing spree to teach women a lesson”

By killing four men and two women. yeah, right.

What a clueless dolt. I pity whoever ends up with her


4 posted on 06/27/2014 11:29:43 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: nickcarraway

All it takes is a pseudo-serious/humorous sign to make metrosexuals wet their pants and obey me? I’ll have to remember that if I ever become a landlord.


5 posted on 06/27/2014 11:32:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Viennacon

Ann Friedman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Friedman


6 posted on 06/27/2014 11:34:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Tzimisce
Which side of that battle would you have been on Ann?

Who knows, but it that situation, I wonder if she would have been happy to let a man with a weapon rescue her?

7 posted on 06/27/2014 11:34:37 PM PDT by Mark17 (Rats and RINOs, who are destroying America, may an elephant caress you with his toes, or worse)
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8 posted on 06/27/2014 11:35:49 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: nickcarraway

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

This idiot actually doesn’t realize that the list is funny. Does he freak the hell out like this when a guitarist compares playing his guitar to making love to a beautiful woman?

Damn guitar enthusiasts. They’re all about rape. /s


9 posted on 06/27/2014 11:39:15 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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10 posted on 06/27/2014 11:41:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: nickcarraway
This article is weird and twisted.

I do not wish to read another article like this one.


11 posted on 06/27/2014 11:44:27 PM PDT by Bobalu (What cannot be programmed cannot be physics)
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To: nickcarraway

OMG. The author is a chick.

She needs to buy a clue. Men name all kinds of inanimate objects after women. It ain’t just guns, darlin’.

I bet she’s one of those mirror-holding, vajayjay-examining feminazi wimmens.


12 posted on 06/27/2014 11:46:33 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Viennacon

OJ’s preferred “woman-silencer” was a KNIFE. Oh well, at least she spared us a lecture on the phallic symbolism of gun-barrel length! /s


13 posted on 06/27/2014 11:47:47 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: nickcarraway
The Scary Reason Some Men Like Guns Better Than Women

"The first time I lived alone, my third year of college,"

I guess that explains it.

14 posted on 06/27/2014 11:49:11 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Feed the wacko enrviromentalists to the starving polar bears.)
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To: nickcarraway

I think there are also lists of why beer is better than a woman, a dog is better than a woman, a sports car is better than a woman, and a sailboat is better than a woman. Probably more than that. Can’t wait for her articles on those.


15 posted on 06/27/2014 11:55:32 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Mark17

I bet she doesn’t let a man, period.


16 posted on 06/27/2014 11:55:43 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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>> Conflating women and guns dogs is nothing new ... like: "My wife YES, My dog MAYBE..."


17 posted on 06/27/2014 11:58:10 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: nickcarraway

LOL.... 43 reasons why dogs are better than women.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/965399/posts


18 posted on 06/28/2014 12:00:16 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: nickcarraway

Oh the author is female, it reads differently now, she has man issues. Wonder if she has the feminist “Top ten reasons a woman is better than a man” sign.


19 posted on 06/28/2014 12:10:35 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: nickcarraway

There was a study in 1992 of over 200,000 homicides that showed that only 20% of men who commit murder use a gun to kill their wife or spouse, but 60% of women who murder their husbands or boyfriends use a gun.


20 posted on 06/28/2014 12:11:59 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: nickcarraway

“...women are on the receiving end of so much intimate gun violence...”

Idiocy.


21 posted on 06/28/2014 12:50:02 AM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: nickcarraway

Ms Friedman dad a hissy fit and decided to print it. Provides verification of the fact that libs have no sense of humor.


22 posted on 06/28/2014 12:52:45 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
She needs to buy a clue. Men name all kinds of inanimate objects after women. It ain’t just guns, darling.

I named my Harley Alison. The in-the-flesh Alison tried to kill me once. Harley Alison twice!

23 posted on 06/28/2014 12:56:10 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: nickcarraway

my handgun doesn’t break stuff that i then have to fix.

my handgun doesn’t yammer on and on just to hear itself talk.

my handgun doesn’t conversationally ambush me

my handgun doesn’t ask me questions that aren’t really questions.


24 posted on 06/28/2014 12:57:53 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I bet she doesn’t let a man, period.

You are probably right. I won't ask the obvious question.

25 posted on 06/28/2014 12:58:16 AM PDT by Mark17 (Rats and RINOs, who are destroying America, may an elephant caress you with his toes, or worse)
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To: Kirkwood

Ugh, figures it was Sinkspur. Feel sorry for his wife, if he has one.


26 posted on 06/28/2014 1:00:50 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Rummyfan

Very good Freudian slip, there.


27 posted on 06/28/2014 1:01:31 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: BuckeyeTexan

lotsa ships named after women. how awfully sexist, and how she ignored this i don’t know.


28 posted on 06/28/2014 1:02:21 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Kirkwood

she forgets women have made why shoes are better than men lists, why shopping is better than men lists, why cats are better than men lists, etc.

she needs to grow up and deal with humor. laugh it off b/c you gals do the same crap, honey.


29 posted on 06/28/2014 1:04:18 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Yep. My late husband had a name for his bass boat. He and a friend built it at another friend’s boat company.


30 posted on 06/28/2014 1:21:25 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: Secret Agent Man
My handgun has never asked me if this holster makes it look fat.

You cannot survive that question unscathed.


31 posted on 06/28/2014 1:38:10 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Secret Agent Man

In the good ole days hurricanes were named after women.


32 posted on 06/28/2014 1:40:03 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: nickcarraway
Sorry, Ann, but I was busy ordering my goldfish a bicycle.

Now, what was that?

33 posted on 06/28/2014 2:22:59 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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“LOL.... 43 reasons why dogs are better than women.”

Well, I did have a black lab once that would put empties in the trash and bring me another beer. She would also...

Bring me the TV guide if I snapped my fingers and pointed at the TV.

Bring me an ashtray ( yes, even a full one without spilling it) if I made a motion like flicking an ash with my hand.

She was also the best birddog in three counties!


34 posted on 06/28/2014 2:46:37 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Secret Agent Man

My handgun never asks me if its butt looks too big in its holster.


35 posted on 06/28/2014 2:50:46 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Rummyfan

I’ve never uttered the word “darling” in my life. ;p


36 posted on 06/28/2014 2:54:16 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Mark17

Magic 8 Ball says Yes!


37 posted on 06/28/2014 2:55:46 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I know, right?


38 posted on 06/28/2014 3:00:43 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: MamaB

I dated a bass fisherman for a while. He and his friends all named their boats. It was a competition to see who could come up with the best name every time one of them got a new boat. They also named their rods & reels.


39 posted on 06/28/2014 3:12:58 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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“laugh it off b/c you gals do the same crap, honey.”

I can only surmise that women like this are the target audience for the article ran last week in the Wall Street Journal, about the joy of cooking for pets (really).


40 posted on 06/28/2014 3:21:35 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: nickcarraway

μολὼν λαβέ

And don't even think about so much as laying a finger on my wife of forty years (and I don't think I care for the way you are looking at her!).
41 posted on 06/28/2014 3:24:10 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Sometimes I wonder if these NYC scribblers ever leave Manhattan. If Miss Friedman would go looking for a house in Wisconsin, where I live, she would notice many of the prospective sellers have hunting rifles and shotguns out in the open.

I noticed this when my wife and I went looking for house shortly before we got married. Gun violence in Wisconsin outside Milwaukee is pretty rare despite the millions of firearms. I assume Ann would swoon at the sight of a gun in the open. The gun might load itself and try to shoot the poor girl.

42 posted on 06/28/2014 3:36:32 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Viennacon

“writ large”

I was going to say writ poorly.


43 posted on 06/28/2014 3:54:27 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Rummyfan

Frankly, I think that some of what she wrote is just fantasy, at least from the perspective of how ‘this gun thing’ personally affected her. There may have been commercials, or even passages from other books, but her personalization connection to them likely does not exist.

She’s just a NYT Blair, or a New Republic Glass in my opinion.


44 posted on 06/28/2014 4:09:51 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: nickcarraway

Bump.


45 posted on 06/28/2014 4:15:55 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Shiny!)
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Every woman I ever dated, I took them shooting. And they all loved it.


46 posted on 06/28/2014 4:22:35 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Shiny!)
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To: nickcarraway

One of the few times I actually read the article before spouting off.

I’m never going to get that time back.


47 posted on 06/28/2014 4:41:06 AM PDT by Antihero101607
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To: nickcarraway
I once owned a handgun that I thought was a quality item, but it turned out to be overpriced trash even with a discount. Though just a rimfire, it was made to look like a more capable pistol to bamboozle the average Joe, and plenty of paid hacks endorsed it (in the ways that paid hacks do). It was fussy about what it was fed, frequently misfired and would occasionally go off with very little pressure on the trigger. It pretended to fill the hand, but there wasn't really enough substance there to get a good grip in any reasonable circumstance. In the end, about all it did was waste ammunition to no good purpose and exasperate everyone who gave it a try. Lots of noise when it did work, but accuracy was dismal. I couldn't wait to be done with that thing, but it wasn't easy to find someone to take it off my hands.

If I were to go through that experience again, I'd name the gun "Ann."

Mr. niteowl77

48 posted on 06/28/2014 4:46:47 AM PDT by niteowl77 (The five stages of Progressive persuasion: lecture, nudge, shove, arrest, liquidate.)
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To: Viennacon

Gadzooks! Are they remaking “Beetlejuice?”


49 posted on 06/28/2014 5:07:36 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: nickcarraway

Because you can have as many as you want and the other’s don’t get jealous? Actually I think my PTR-91 does get jealous sometimes, or did until the boating accident.


50 posted on 06/28/2014 5:20:04 AM PDT by LambSlave
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