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GM to recall about 400,000 [more] pickups, SUVs for software fix [more than 20 million this year]
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 28, 2014 | Tim Higgins

Posted on 06/28/2014 1:03:18 AM PDT by Zakeet

Detroit: General Motors Co., which has recalled about 20 million cars and trucks in North America this year, added 428,111 more US vehicles to that tally, including its redesigned full-sized pickups and large sport-utility vehicles.

GM said it needs to recalibrate software that controls the gears to fix the four-wheel drive on 392,459 pickups and SUVs, including the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra pickups from 2014 and 2015 model years and the 2015 Chevy Tahoe and Suburban. The effected models can switch into neutral on their own, the automaker said on Friday in an e-mailed statement.

If this occurs while a vehicle is in motion, no power will go to the wheels, the Detroit-based company said in the statement. If the vehicle is stopped or parked, it may roll away if the parking brake is not set.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gm; recall

Government Motors seems to have had more than their share of quality control issues since the Dems bailed them out.

1 posted on 06/28/2014 1:03:19 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

gm bailout - 20 million recalls - mission accomplished. /s


2 posted on 06/28/2014 1:06:30 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I say…

BONUSES ALL Around!!! Woo Hoo!!!

Its OBAMA time!


3 posted on 06/28/2014 1:15:04 AM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: Zakeet

GM seems to have a lot of firmware problems.

infirm-ware


4 posted on 06/28/2014 1:17:41 AM PDT by Bobalu (What cannot be programmed cannot be physics)
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To: Zakeet
GM said it needs to recalibrate software...

You don't "recalibrate" software.

You replace software with a new version that hopefully has fewer bugs than what it's replacing. /facepalm

5 posted on 06/28/2014 1:24:11 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Bobalu
GM coders, your ride is here.

The Short-Bus Can-Bus gang....lol

6 posted on 06/28/2014 1:25:54 AM PDT by Bobalu (What cannot be programmed cannot be physics)
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To: Zakeet
fix the four-wheel drive on 392,459 pickups and SUVs

Ahhh, the old 2 wheel drive to 4 wheel drive to no wheel drive trick :)

A buddy just bought a new Silverado 4X4, going to have some fun with this if he comes over tomorrow, he's been bragging too much on how it's a better truck than my F 150 4X4.

7 posted on 06/28/2014 1:26:38 AM PDT by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: Zakeet

Wow, just for software? I always wondered why they make the choices they make, especially with regards to being able to update things. Maybe Tesla has it right - wifi in every car. Updates delivered as needed when needed. Adjustments to just about everything from suspension to powertrain can be controlled (perhaps they can even control the car). No “recalls” just automatic downloading of patches and the occasional reboot when the car is plugged in.


8 posted on 06/28/2014 1:26:45 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Zakeet

What, we can’t just download an upgrade to our cars?


9 posted on 06/28/2014 2:42:48 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: monkeyshine

Well, to be fair, in the past auto firmware rarely needed any kind of upgrade. It was usually well nigh bulletproof. Only racing hackers would want to switch it out for anything else. But again, critical vehicle systems were less dependent on fly by wire than they are today.


10 posted on 06/28/2014 2:47:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: The Cajun

But at least the F150 never has a BSOD....


11 posted on 06/28/2014 2:48:25 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
But at least the F150 never has a BSOD

Yet anyway, LOL!
Way too much electronic control on all those suckers now days.
The F150 is the first truck I ever took out the 7 year extended warranty on after looking at all the *tronics* involved :)

12 posted on 06/28/2014 3:29:47 AM PDT by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: Zakeet

I’ve had GM all my life...trust me I LOVE my new Honda...didn’t ever look at a GM offering...no regrets.


13 posted on 06/28/2014 4:16:57 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“But at least the F150 never has a BSOD....”

Umm, I’m trying to remember my first vehicle with sold state ignition. Think it was about 1974. You’re probably asking why this is relevant to this discussion. Well children, now that all our vehicles (plus virtually everything else) depends on solid state electronics to operate, it’s time to ask the question; what am I gonna do if those nasty ole terrorists set off a nuke in ir near my region of habitat? Well, the blast will set off a EMP (electromagnetic pulse) which will knock out virtually all equipment, machinery, devices, etc that have semiconductors within them. So, unless you have a horse, bicycle, or say... about a pre 1970 auto, you’ll be walking :)


14 posted on 06/28/2014 4:38:59 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: Zakeet

Gubmint Motors. Now they want to take out your appendix.


15 posted on 06/28/2014 4:43:01 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: snoringbear

It would be interesting to know the results of any deliberate military tests on the matter.

The chassis of a car or truck is a pretty fair Faraday cage, and for better robustness the inputs of the master chip would probably be zener-protected. That stuff MIGHT still live.

The biggest trouble would come when everything has to be intelligent, then even if you stored spare chips in shielded containers you would need one for each smart device in the vehicle.

I remember reading about a very few cars that had vacuum tube control electronics. That would be funky, but EMP proof.


16 posted on 06/28/2014 4:49:22 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Zakeet
The effected models ...

Is this what passes for good writing these days?

17 posted on 06/28/2014 5:01:44 AM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Muslim president!)
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To: The Cajun

As a life long chevy truck owner I will never, ever, in a million years own another Chevy.
I am looking at Toyota FJs Or a Ford Pick up. But If I won a chevy, I would flatbed it to a Toyota Dealership and trade.


18 posted on 06/28/2014 5:25:56 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Zakeet

Shifting into neural while on the highway in cruise control might be interesting. Think the controller is smart enough to disable cruise of not in drive? Or would it ask for more throttle since speed is coming down? How long to hit the rev limiter, a second or two?


19 posted on 06/28/2014 5:28:03 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Zakeet
GM said it needs to recalibrate software that controls the gears to fix the four-wheel drive

Recalibrate? Seems more like they need to get folks who know what they're doing when it comes time to write the firmware/software that controls the vehicles.

20 posted on 06/28/2014 5:50:49 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Zakeet

Just the quality of a UAW-owned and government-backed company one would expect.


21 posted on 06/28/2014 6:50:22 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: The Cajun

This may have changed in recent years, but the old Silverado’s had less legroom than the Fords.


22 posted on 06/28/2014 7:50:33 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: KevinB

Kudos to you, KevinB. I was going to say the same thing. The Wall St. Journal, no less.


23 posted on 06/28/2014 8:45:19 AM PDT by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: trebb

When GM was taken over,didn’t they get a lot of new people in management positions,some of who knew little or nothing about the business or the vehicles? What is their situation nowadays? Have they got any real car people in there running things or not? Sounds like maybe not yet.


24 posted on 06/28/2014 10:34:09 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: oldtech

In case anyone was wondering,I am not anti-GM;drive one now. They have built some fine vehicles at different points in time.


25 posted on 06/28/2014 10:46:54 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: Zakeet

I grew up being a huge GM guy.
My last GM was a 1980 Z-28.
As a teen I owned TWO Z-28’s the ‘80 and a ‘78.
Yea I understand those cars limitations but that is besides the point, at the time they were both pretty sweet.
As a TEENAGER I was able to own TWO real nice Chevy Z-28’s.
Just read about the NEW 2015 Z-28 in car and Driver.
it’s going for something like 70-80 grand$$.
Times have changed....looks like this ex-teen has seen his last Z-28.


26 posted on 06/28/2014 7:02:47 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: oldtech
When GM was taken over,didn’t they get a lot of new people in management positions,some of who knew little or nothing about the business or the vehicles? What is their situation nowadays? Have they got any real car people in there running things or not? Sounds like maybe not yet.

I can't answer any of the questions you pose, but I would assume that the "management style" became more like that of the government that stuck it's finger into the pile.

27 posted on 06/29/2014 2:54:29 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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