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North Carolina Students Can Now Pray At School, Mention God In Assignments
news.yahoo.com ^ | June 25, 2014

Posted on 06/28/2014 5:01:40 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012

North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory, a Republican, has signed legislation that will explicitly allow students in public schools across the state to engage in voluntary student-led prayer.

The new law permits students to create religious clubs and coordinate prayer groups, reports North Carolina Fox affiliate WGHP.

The three-page law also allows students to pray by themselves or in groups — aloud or silently — in exactly the same way they can discuss or think silently about any other issue.

Additionally, students will be able to communicate their religious beliefs in written assignments and artwork under the new law without fear of censorship from teachers or school officials.

The legislation does set limits on prayer and God talk at taxpayer-funded schools. Religious students won’t be able to interrupt other students who are trying to learn, for example. They also can’t harass nonreligious students.

The law, which takes effect immediately, sailed through North Carolina’s House and Senate chambers with overwhelming support. In the Senate, the vote was 48-1. In the lower chamber, it was 106-9.

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1 posted on 06/28/2014 5:01:40 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

FINALLY - a STATE exercising its RIGHTS! May many follow this lead.


2 posted on 06/28/2014 5:10:09 AM PDT by RebelTXRose (SECURE THE BORDER!)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Very encouraging news from North Carolina!

It's long past time to push back on the left's assault on religious expression in public schools and elsewhere. This is a great start that we can hope will encourage other states to consider similar common-sense legislation pertaining to the right of public school students to reference God in their essays or form voluntary religious clubs devoted to prayer, worship and good works.

The secular left has had it their way for decades as religious expression was forbidden in public schools as if it were toxic. I believe our nation has been diminished because of their 'success'. Let's fight back!

3 posted on 06/28/2014 5:10:16 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: ilovesarah2012
Wow!

Now THIS is a B.F.D.!

4 posted on 06/28/2014 5:15:11 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Jim Scott

“The North Carolina bill is the kind of legislation that is needed in every state,” said Bill Donohue, who heads the Catholic League, in a press release. “To that end, we are contacting the governors in the other 49 states asking them to adopt the North Carolina law as a model in their own state. We are also sending them a copy of the law that Governor McCrory signed.”

If conservatives/Christians/normal people were half as engaged and organized as homosexuals and their supporters, the country wouldn’t be in the mess we are in now.


5 posted on 06/28/2014 5:16:34 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

About time!


6 posted on 06/28/2014 5:17:29 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

The CPUSA and the NAALCP will be deeply upset.


7 posted on 06/28/2014 5:18:26 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: mongo141

It amazes me that a state has to make a special law to give people constitutionally-protected rights. I thought that was the whole point of the Constitution.


8 posted on 06/28/2014 5:19:46 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
The 17th Amendment left behind a federal constitution, yet a government devoid of federalism.

By that, I mean the constitution still acts on the states, yet the states are no longer in the government to secure their interests.

9 posted on 06/28/2014 5:34:57 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Some teachers had given students a hard time for making God the subject matter of essays.

This would get them to go easier, though I am not sure how a Christian teacher might react if a Muslim student extolled Allah in an essay. Though I’m sure that teacher would find it more possible to be objective (it’s about the use of language, not the topic) than a Muslim teacher looking at an essay extolling Jesus from a classic Christian perspective.


10 posted on 06/28/2014 5:39:14 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jacquerie

That did majorly factor out the state governments. They had their own vices which was why the 17th was viewed as a reform. But they had virtues too. Ultimately no political arrangement can itself enforce virtue.


11 posted on 06/28/2014 5:40:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

They can’t enforce virtue but they sure can destroy it.


12 posted on 06/28/2014 5:48:45 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Without God in the picture, a move in ANY direction will “destroy virtue.”


13 posted on 06/28/2014 5:50:03 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Exactly. And I remember the dems booing God.


14 posted on 06/28/2014 5:56:25 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

I love this. How sad that legislation has to be passed on this. We really have gone backwards overall in the country. Thank you North Carolina! May God bless you in 2014 when you get rid of Senator Hagan for Senator Tellis. If every state acted as North Carolina since 2012, our country would be absolutely incredible and on it’s way to recovering from the liberal slide.


15 posted on 06/28/2014 6:01:35 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: ilovesarah2012

Maybe God is getting ready to boo them back.


16 posted on 06/28/2014 6:02:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I have been teaching in NC for the past 9 years and have always encouraged my students to express their views — including those based on faith/God/religion etc. For students of faith to be shut out of the “national conversation” is, to me, so typically liberal - and unconstitutional (was I redundant there?) I have always fostered a climate where my students of faith can feel comfortable expressing their views. I have had moments where I’ve counseled those same students who were grieving or experiencing troubles and, at those moments of hurt or doubt, I’ve made use of scripture and prayer. They know I am a christian (I assume that is exactly why they’ve chosen to speak with me on such matter). My counsel has not only been invited, but sought out. To do otherwise, to limit my speech at those times is to let these students founder; to fail to offer instruction for the soul. I’m a teacher. I instruct the whole child.

I teach American Lit. to my 11th graders and make no apologies for covering those writings that express Christian (and STRONGLY held Christian) beliefs. Don’t see how you can do justice to American Lit. without doing so. British Lit. (which I teach to my Seniors) is the same thing. You are not teaching Beowulf, Hamlet, Paradise Lost, Romantic and Victorian era poetry without getting into some serious discussion about the God of the Bible (that’s why I love my job!)

The history of literature can BEST be understood by the existence and then subsequent removal of God from the pages of literature. So, too, our world today. My students leave our classes understanding that the history of humanity indicates there has always been movement by men and women that fluctuates toward and, more usually, away from their Creator.


17 posted on 06/28/2014 6:13:46 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: grobdriver
Wow! Now THIS is a B.F.D.!

Yep - I may be optimistic, but I think we will start to see more and more of this type push back. It has finally become crystal clear to a large sector that they intend to take absolute control over the People and if we don't begin an actual movement, we are doomed.

18 posted on 06/28/2014 6:17:01 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: MarDav

Not only literature, but music and art as well. You can’t leave God out and really teach these subjects.


19 posted on 06/28/2014 6:17:25 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Boy, you are so right! Sometimes I wonder if real persecution wouldn’t be a good thing for American Christendom. Anyway, this is where we will win the battle if we ever will for our nation. Without a real religious revival that changes the fabric of our culture, and inclines our hearts back to the Lord we are doomed.


20 posted on 06/28/2014 6:25:55 AM PDT by Lake Living
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To: ilovesarah2012

Three....Two...One.

“Federal District judge overturns North Carolina law allowing student led school prayer - cites “unconstitutionality” and “offense to minorities”. “

(any bets on how long before we read the above headline, or a variation thereof?)


21 posted on 06/28/2014 6:32:17 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know")
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To: Jacquerie

It was not so much the 17th Amendment, but creation of the ever-expanding entitlements programs by which states prostituted their responsibilities in exchange for easy Federal loot.


22 posted on 06/28/2014 6:36:26 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know")
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To: ilovesarah2012

Hallelujah.

I take back anything bad I ever said about Pat McCrory.


23 posted on 06/28/2014 6:40:51 AM PDT by moovova
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To: ilovesarah2012
Chemistry - Properties of Water are one of the strongest evidences for a benevolent, wise Designer.

Biology - Show the computer animations of the DNA replication process and then ask students, "Explain how this happened by random assemblage of atoms. Then explain WHY it started and continues to function.

'Billions and Billions of years' is an incomplete answer. "

24 posted on 06/28/2014 6:46:19 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know")
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To: ilovesarah2012
So....Now the students will be taught that it is OK to spit in God's direction once in a while ( under government approved guidelines, of course.)

Fundamentally, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a religiously neutral school. Why? Answer: Because such a philosophic state of neutrality can not exist in the mind of any human.

This action by the state legislature is NOT religiously neutral. Why?

1) All of the students who are in the government single-payer school under threat of police action have had their right to free association violated by the government. While in this prison-like environment, they will be subjected to religious worldviews of others that they and their families find repugnant. Don't be surprised when Muslims, atheists, gays, and Satanists take every opportunity within the law to impose their religious worldview on their fellow student captives.

2) It is NOT religiously neutral for the government to dictate free speech and expression of religion, and this law does exactly that!

25 posted on 06/28/2014 6:58:46 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: AlexW

The CPUSA and the NAALCP
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No...They are rejoicing. They will take every opportunity to use the law against the Christian students who are imprisoned in the government’s K-12 single-payer schools. Bet on it!

The **only** solution is to get government OUT of all aspects of schooling. Begin the process of fully privatizing K-12 schooling in this nation.


26 posted on 06/28/2014 7:01:16 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

As an ever-skeptic that any good can happen in a public schooling system, your take is understandable. That does not make it any less tendentious.

My take: It’s better to have a Mars Hill than to have a stifled silence. But Christian families now have a challenge. They cannot let children go unprepared. Evangelistic opportunities await and should be well exploited.


27 posted on 06/28/2014 7:03:38 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: wintertime

Supreme Court prays and displays the Ten Commandments. Our money says “In God We Trust”.


28 posted on 06/28/2014 7:11:14 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Lake Living

While I am pleased with this small step, I believe America has made her bed. We are way past the slippery slope.


29 posted on 06/28/2014 7:12:37 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: BwanaNdege

The entitlements were inevitable when both houses of congress were elected by popular vote.


30 posted on 06/28/2014 8:34:04 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: ilovesarah2012; SgtBob; mabarker1; markomalley; Chode; nascarnation

I can’t help but wonder if Gov. Pat McCrory is a NASCAR fan. Prayers before races is a must in NASCAR.


31 posted on 06/28/2014 10:30:56 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch
Amen
32 posted on 06/28/2014 10:34:02 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Re: Evangelistic opportunities

Evangelism works both ways. Remember. The children will be evangelized by the godless curriculum and their Marxist trained teachers ( nearly all teachers in the nation have been trained by Marxists.). And....Did Christ send children out to preach the gospel or mature men?

The only solution that abides by the Constitution and freedom of conscience is to begin the process of privatizing all K-12 schooling.


33 posted on 06/28/2014 10:52:14 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: B4Ranch

I’d bet He is but keeps it fairly hush unlike some pols that just try to use it for political gain. I find it ABSURD that there even has to be such a law.


34 posted on 06/28/2014 10:52:58 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: B4Ranch

I know. I wonder how long until Freedom From Religion gets that stopped. The U.S. Army sponsors a car, therefore the federal government is endorsing religion.


35 posted on 06/28/2014 11:24:12 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: BwanaNdege

That was part of it but the left convinced them that it was dehumanizing for people to have to ask for help. The givers would judge them and make them feel bad. The Left wanted to make them permanent wards of the State.


36 posted on 06/28/2014 11:27:09 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: ilovesarah2012
“It amazes me that a state has to make a special law to give people constitutionally-protected rights. I thought that was the whole point of the Constitution.”
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Absolutely, However the present Socialist Administration thinks that the Constitution and Republic are just a suggestion.
37 posted on 06/28/2014 11:30:28 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: ilovesarah2012
It amazes me that a state has to make a special law to give people constitutionally-protected rights. I thought that was the whole point of the Constitution.

Didn't the House of Representatives recently try to pass a law saying Obama has to obey the law?


38 posted on 06/28/2014 11:33:24 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: gitmo

Yes. Crazy.


39 posted on 06/28/2014 11:35:20 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

I’m confused. They weren’t allowed to do this before? Was this North Carolina or China?


40 posted on 06/28/2014 10:26:16 PM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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