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Boehner Is Bringing a Whistle to a Gunfight: Why the Obama Lawsuit is an Awful Idea
National Review ^ | 06/28/2014 | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 06/28/2014 7:24:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

You wish you could call the police. But the neighbor who is robbing your house at gunpoint is the police. You are stupefied, so inconceivable does it seem to you that the man sworn to uphold the law could be an outlaw.

Yet, the architects who designed your house not only conceived of that danger, they took precautions. As a result, you not only have your own arsenal of emergency firepower; you’re also in charge of all the ammunition. See, the architects hoped we’d always have good, honorable police, but they didn’t make your life depend on it. They knew the police had to be strong to protect us, but that this very strength could potentially destroy the whole community if the guns and badges ever ended up in corrupt hands. So while hoping for the best, they planned for the worst: The police have to come to you for the bullets if their guns are to be of much use; and you ultimately determine whether they get to keep their badges.

So as the police rob John Boehner’s House, just like they’re robbing every house in the neighborhood, what does he do? Does he grab his gun in self-defense? Does he lock the ammo vault? Does he start yanking the badges of the lawless beat cops and warn police headquarters that the commissioner could be out of a job, too, if things don’t change?

No. Boehner instead decides to call his neighbor, the referee at the town gym. The whole community respects the ref. When we come to his court, he makes all the calls and, win or lose, the players know the game was fair and square. But the ref cannot force the police to follow the rules. And he doesn’t have a gun, just a whistle.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: andymccarthy; boehner; boehner4obama; boehnerlawsuit; delay; impeachobama; lawsuit; noaccountability; nojustice; obama

1 posted on 06/28/2014 7:24:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

He’ll be found to not have stand and the court will throw it out. It’s just an attempt at making his Pubbie constituency feel like he’s trying to do something positive when in fact he’s lost even before the horse is out of the gate.


2 posted on 06/28/2014 7:26:13 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

John Boehner is basically refusing to use the power of the legislative branch, and handing it over to the judicial branch to do what he won’t do.

He knows it will fail.

But he thinks this is a slick way to make himself look “tough” on Obama and get conservatives to rally behind him.

The man is a fool.


3 posted on 06/28/2014 7:29:54 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("There's always free cheese in a mousetrap." - Marine Col. Peter Martinow)
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To: SeekAndFind

Boehner has a history of talking big but when adversity comes he’s usually the first to fold and blame others.


4 posted on 06/28/2014 7:30:03 AM PDT by Rob the Ugly Dude
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out Boehner cooked up this charade with Obama, when they were out on the links.


5 posted on 06/28/2014 7:32:29 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("There's always free cheese in a mousetrap." - Marine Col. Peter Martinow)
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To: SeekAndFind

The correct path forward is, of course, impeachment.

But Boehner doesn’t have the will, and his GOP-E allies are more concerned about elections and perpetuation of their power and influence than doing the right thing.


6 posted on 06/28/2014 7:35:18 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Boehner’s a fool . He’s made that quite clear over the last few years.


7 posted on 06/28/2014 7:38:37 AM PDT by wny
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Exactly!


8 posted on 06/28/2014 7:39:56 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The only question I have is, what actual result to we get if the House impeaches a dozen officials, or even the President?

I mean, Bill Clinton will forever be known as the “impeached president”. But he is a hero to his party, and to a majority of the nation if polls are to be believed.

He pulled down over $100 million in speaking fees. That’s the kind of “punishment” anybody would love.

We’ll spend a year LOOKING like we are doing something, but the Senate will do NOTHING about any of it. We had a majority and couldn’t convict a President who actually had a court conviction.

I agree with Andrew that these are impeachable offenses, and that is what the founders expected.

But they did not expect that the Senate would be the lapdog of a President from their own party. They thought the Senate would be strong in defending their own institution.

They did not expect so many dishonorable men and women to be put in a place of such power. The especially didn’t expect the states to shoot themselves in the foot (of course, they didn’t think states would be stupid enough to agree to popular election of senators either).

The court case will probably do nothing either. BUT, a court may WELL rule against Obama. And the media may well pick up the story. It may help a little bit. Probably won’t.

What we need is for the people of this country to care, and al they care about is how much money they can get from hard-working “others” who they don’t know and think cause all their problems.

When a majority of the people can legally steal from the minority, your country will fail. We are failing. How do you train the next generation to give a damn, when the means of training are tightly controlled by your enemy?


9 posted on 06/28/2014 7:40:20 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a sideshow.


10 posted on 06/28/2014 7:42:07 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: SeekAndFind

The lawsuit is stupid because Congress has all the tools it needs to stop this. I’ts called impeachment.

The speaker of the house has a bullypulpit too. Boehner is a weak character and couldn’t use it effectively. Somebody like Newt Gingrich could — in between faux paus.

At this point, a good speaker wouldn’t threaten with a measly lawsuit. He’d be threatening to impeach Obama’s inner circle, and than Obama himself. He would predict rising public animosity and violence towards the currently offending federal agencies and make the comments very public and point out that a ‘Shutdown’ is actually a better option than where we’re going.


11 posted on 06/28/2014 7:54:12 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Obama has had TWELVE US SUPREME COURT CASES decided against him. I would say that the US Supreme Court is not putting up with Obama’s shenanigans! With that kind of track record, thus far, we stand a very good chance!


12 posted on 06/28/2014 7:57:40 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: SeekAndFind

Some unpleasant facts:
1) the Senate has an extremely partisan Democrat majority, controlled by arch-fiend Harry Reid.
2) Senate Republicans are mostly spineless wieners.
3) The House can impeach all day long, but the current Senate would not convict, even with the clearest evidence of massive crime by Obama personally.
4) Stirring up impeachment now will cause Obama’s slave army to turn out this Fall, making it less likely Republicans can achieve a Senate majority.
5) Premature impeachment would fail, but also provide the DNC Medioplex with a giant opportunity to portray Obama as a victim of unpatriotic, white supremacist, politicians.
6) It will knock all factual stories of Obama’s (and Hillary’s) incompetence and criminal maladministration off the air and front pages - just when it is finally getting some play.

So for once, I think Boehner is doing the right thing for this moment in time. The Supreme Court just blasted Obama unanimously in the NRLB recess-appointments case (an instance of the unConstitutional overreach Boehner is suing over — he should use the ruling to argue the case). His current suit will likely be spiked by corrupt Democrat judges. But having tried “every alternative” makes impeachment a much better sell next January. Then what do you do about Biden?


13 posted on 06/28/2014 8:26:41 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: SeekAndFind
McCarthy is right.

The goals of an impeachment are this: So tie up Obama & Co. defending an impeachment that he has little time for his socialist, nation destroying agenda; and force the MSM to cover the impeachment, which will highlight all of Obama’s many crimes - something the MSM has loyally avoided.

An impeachment is a public indictment. Obama & Co. will have to vigorously defend against it, as Bill C did. What is more important to a narcissist: public humiliation or shutting down 100 coal mines? There are only so many hours in a day & one can only juggle so many items at one time. Needing to maintain his dwindling support, Obama will have to curtail his executive orders. Bill Clinton curtailed his indiscretions as impeachment loomed.

No news org. will be able to avoid covering an impeachment. The impeachment will be a detailed rehashing of Obama’s many crimes. Low info voters will find their “Price is Right” preempted by accounts of Obama’s lawlessness. Pundits will have nothing else to talk about. Nobody is gonna care about women's reproductive health issues when the President is on trial - for months if not years.

Let's face it: Obama cannot be removed from office. The corrupt, dishonorable Senate Democrats will never let that happen.

But his illegal activities can be put in the national spotlight, such that it would be dangerous for him to continue them. Isn't that what we want?

14 posted on 06/28/2014 8:36:56 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This court case is symbolic at best but will go no where. Obama needs to be impeached, but that will never happen. I fear Obama will keep seizing power and before 2016 will suspend the Constitution and free elections and become dictator. He is half way there already.


15 posted on 06/28/2014 8:41:24 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Jack Hydrazine
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Jack ...


You nailed it EXACTLY.

Boehner is a pathetic LYING piss-ant coward.


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16 posted on 06/28/2014 8:48:44 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My general impression of establishment Republicans and Democrats in a political fight is Republicans show up in a suit and tie ready for a debate club. The Democrats show up ready for a bare knuckle brawl.


17 posted on 06/28/2014 8:58:48 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: Star Traveler

You are really dreaming if you think this court would actually stand up on this issue and even if it does it can’t enforce its ruling


18 posted on 06/28/2014 9:06:58 AM PDT by cmwy
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To: SeekAndFind

They are just running out the clock.


19 posted on 06/28/2014 9:07:54 AM PDT by marron
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To: SeekAndFind

Bonehead is a fool. Impeachment is the only threat in spite of it going nowhere except voted positive in the House.


20 posted on 06/28/2014 9:08:34 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: cmwy

The US Supreme Court has already stood up to Obama TWELVE TIMES previously ... slapping him down each time. I would say that this is a very good indicator ... :-) ...


21 posted on 06/28/2014 9:13:12 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Boehner Is Bringing a Whistle to a Gunfight

"When you strike at a king, you must kill him." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Boehner is acting similarly to Romney in 2012--and no, to anyone reading this, I am not suggesting in any way that President Obama should be assassinated. That would be an unethical act on its face, and would also have the political effect of turning Obama into a perpetual martyr (cf. Lincoln, Kennedy(s), King).

I am suggesting, however, that when the lawsuit fails--and it will, because it should, because the Judicial branch of the government is not constitutionally positioned as the arbiter between the Legislative and Executive--that will only embolden Obama further.

A lawsuit that is thrown out will accomplish nothing but strengthen Obama's position in the remaining years of his administration. By the same token, impeachment without conviction and removal from office of any in the administration will accomplish nothing but strength Obama's position in the remaining years of his administration.

The House had its chance to "kill the king" in 2011 by defunding Obamacare and then sticking to its guns, but it punted in the expectation that the Court would strike down Obamacare, and when the Court didn't, that emboldened Obama to unconstitutionally revise Obamacare every time it has suited his political purposes.

Romney had his chance after the first debate in 2012, but he punted in the expectation that conservatives who voted for McCain would vote for him, and when they didn't, that emboldened Obama to unconstitutionally decide which laws he would and would not enforce, every time it has suited his political purposes.

The House again had its chance in 2013 in the "government shutdown" to force Obama's hand concerning the petulant decisions such as closing the WWII Memorial, but they didn't bring a political bomb to the gunfight, but rather waited until they were thoroughly discredited in the public mind. This emboldened Obama further, so that now he is unconstitutionally acting in numerous ways, from the border to Bergdahl to the IRS/EPA coverup and everything else we know--and probably some things we don't know.

If you mean to kill the king, kill the king--and again, anyone reading this, I don't mean assassinating Obama, period--but when you attack Obama you better take him down, otherwise, you only embolden him.

And one more thing:

But they did not expect that the Senate would be the lapdog of a President from their own party. They thought the Senate would be strong in defending their own institution.

Part of the reason for this was that the Senate was supposed to be chosen by state legislatures, and so the Senators would reflect the landed oligarchy: men who could afford to be involved in DC for six years, "giving back" to the nation that protected their negative rights. The Senate today, by contrast, has become nothing more than a more-establishment-version of the House.

22 posted on 06/28/2014 9:24:34 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: chajin

I am suggesting, however, that when the lawsuit fails—and it will, because it should, because the Judicial branch of the government is not constitutionally positioned as the arbiter between the Legislative and Executive—that will only embolden Obama further.


This lawsuit makes as much sense as bringing enemy combatants to our civil courts for trial.

We’ve forgotten the concept of “the right tool for the job.”


23 posted on 06/28/2014 9:26:54 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: SeekAndFind

What else does one expect from an incompetent A-hole? Boehner has had the power to stop much of what Obama has been doing but what can one expect from such a weak and spineless creature. As a nation, we are going down the tubes faster than a toilet flushes. Obama is the instigator and Boehner and his cohorts are the grease.


24 posted on 06/28/2014 9:56:23 AM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: SeekAndFind

it is all pure kabuki. that’s all it is.


25 posted on 06/28/2014 11:20:32 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Law enforcement is a plenary executive power, and thus any court judgment against Obama would have to be enforced by . . . Obama. That is not going to happen.

A judge’s ruling that the president is violating the law would have exactly the same practical effect as Speaker Boehner’s whining that the president is violating the law: none.

Good points.

26 posted on 06/28/2014 11:47:51 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

IOW, wrong. Andrew McCarthy’s a tool.


27 posted on 06/28/2014 12:57:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SeekAndFind
I understand why the House may not want to impeach soetoro until after the mid term elections. They think that impeachment will turn out the free shi+ army of obamabots. Well, not impeaching him may discourage Conservatives from turning out so take your pick. I'll give them until Jan. That's it.

We do have to realize that the Republicans may win a majority in the Senate and may keep the house but there is no guarantee with the massive voter fraud the demo specialize in

In the meantime they must use every means available to them to stop this lawlessness.

The House has arrest powers and a jail. Use them.

The House has the power to deny funding. Use it.

What's to stop a governor from declaring a state of emergency and putting their National Guard on the border?

Have the governors of TX and NM put their state defense forces on the border.

Don't let anyone over the border. Let mexico deal with them.

28 posted on 06/28/2014 6:41:50 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: SeekAndFind
major problem with Obama and immigration reform: nobody trusts Obama to carry out the law as written.

1. Many of us believe that once Obama gets his immigration reform bill passed, he will change it, or enforce only parts of it that he chooses.

2. For instance, look at Obamacare.

3. Obama has made so many changes to the original law through executive action that it is hardly recognizable.

4. So any lawmaker who is thinking about immigration reform this year must seriously re-think his decision.

29 posted on 06/29/2014 9:15:51 AM PDT by john mirse
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