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Great news! IRS commissioner says you can now use the Lois Lerner excuse if audited
Hotair ^ | 06/28/2014 | NOAH ROTHMAN

Posted on 06/28/2014 7:40:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In an interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer on Thursday evening, IRS Commissioner John Koskinen revealed that a number of taxpayers are confused by his agency’s conduct. Like the IRS, they would also like to claim that corrupted or lost data prevents them from complying with the tax collection agency’s requests with for several-year-old documents. Koskinen told Blitzer that what may come to be known as “The Lerner Defense” is and has been acceptable to the IRS.

During Thursday’s interview, an eager Twitter user submitted a question to Blitzer which he helpfully read on the air. “Why shouldn’t tax payers use the crashed hard drive excuse when undergoing an IRS audit?” the user asked.

“A number of them have already done that, and the question has been ‘Is there a dual standard?’” Koskinen observed.

“We, historically – if a taxpayer has lost electronic records – have said ‘If you have other indications and evidence of what went on, we’ll take that from you,’” Koskinen continued. “If you lose a document, it doesn’t mean you lose the argument.”

“We actually work with taxpayers to say, ‘We’ll look at other evidence,’ like the 24,000 emails [from Lois Lerner the IRS already submitted to congressional investigators],” the commissioner added.

He concluded by noting that the IRS “will support you” and “you won’t have any problem” if the average taxpayer undergoing an audit behaves in the precise same fashion that the IRS has over the course of the investigation into the admitted targeting of conservative groups.

You might want to hold onto those old tax filings before taking Mr. Koskinen at his word just yet. Something tells me “The Lerner Defense” won’t be as readily accepted by IRS investigators as the commissioner suggests.

Later in the interview, Koskinen appeared to backtrack on his insistence before a congressional committee that the IRS’s conduct did not merit him offering them an apology. Apparently, he determined that an apology to the American people was due:

“The improper criteria used to highlight organizations for investigation just by their name was a mistake,” Koskinen said. “I apologize to anybody who ever had their applications held up needlessly. Everybody needs to be confident that the IRS is going to treat them fairly no matter who they are. Republicans, Democrats, whatever organization they belong to. So it’s a serious matter.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: audit; irs; irsscandals; koskinen; lerneremails; loislerner; taxpayers

1 posted on 06/28/2014 7:40:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Koskinen continued. “If you lose a document, it doesn’t mean you lose the argument.”

That beady-eyed little Devil's ogre is going to have to prove that! Either show substantive documented truthful evidence complete with taxpayer's endorsement or STFU. Arrogant, lying little POS.

2 posted on 06/28/2014 7:43:19 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Well, they HAD the evidence but the hard rive was lost on a tragic boating accident.


3 posted on 06/28/2014 7:47:38 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: SeekAndFind; John Semmens

I’m still looking for the Semmens byline....


4 posted on 06/28/2014 7:47:40 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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To: Gaffer

Many moons ago, a friend lost his mobile home in a fire. All his expense records burned up. Do you think the IRS had any mercy in that situation? (Hell no. They kept demanding the receipts—the ones that burned up).


5 posted on 06/28/2014 7:52:07 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Welcome to the IRS! Iraqi info minister photo: Iraqi info minister 07-minister.jpg Who loves you baby?
6 posted on 06/28/2014 7:55:25 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Smokin' Joe

The man is an arrogant lying little troll. Nothing he says can be believed. It requires a “willing suspension of disbelief” to even listen to him. If I had the power, he would be in prison.


7 posted on 06/28/2014 7:55:34 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

The dog ate my emails.


8 posted on 06/28/2014 7:56:54 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

July 4th. Independence from what?


9 posted on 06/28/2014 7:59:23 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: SeekAndFind

The peon, in the form of a tax-payer, does not have the privilege of the Lerner Defense.

It is limited to brilliant, intellectual, really-really smart geniuses like Ms. Lerner and Mr. Koskinen.

See, ya know?

IMHO


10 posted on 06/28/2014 8:04:39 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Smokin' Joe

So what happened?


11 posted on 06/28/2014 8:05:28 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Aria

I don’t know. Last I saw him, he was still battling with them.


12 posted on 06/28/2014 8:07:11 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My hard drive and guns fell overboard.


13 posted on 06/28/2014 8:07:27 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: SeekAndFind

*grabs a hammer and starts hitting his hard drive*

Wish me luck!


14 posted on 06/28/2014 8:07:28 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: SeekAndFind

15 posted on 06/28/2014 8:08:46 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Both of Oregon’s US senators are complicit in this scandal.


16 posted on 06/28/2014 8:16:51 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: SeekAndFind

The IRS will accept that you can’t find the documents... The receipts etc. would be to prove that you DO NOT owe money.

You just can’t prove you don’t owe, so you have to pay.


17 posted on 06/28/2014 8:23:23 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: SeekAndFind

The IRS wont accept a credit card statement as a receipt for an expenditure. You must have the original receipt from the company you purchased the expenditure from. The IRS commissioner is lying just like Lois Lerner.


18 posted on 06/28/2014 8:33:03 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: SeekAndFind

bogus IRS argument, of course. The IRS assumes you owe the tax (guilty) until and unless you prove otherwise. So if your documents are gone, you owe the tax. The purpose of the documents is to prove you don’t.

The appropriate analogy would be to ASSUME Lerner and the rest of the IRS is GUILTY of crimes. If the emails prove them innocent, fine. The fact they are “gone”, means they are guilty of the crimes. That would be an apples to apples comparison of a taxpayer dealing with the IRS, and the IRS dealing with Congress.


19 posted on 06/28/2014 8:50:56 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: SeekAndFind

Gee, the only difference is the taxpayer is guilty until he/she can prove their innocence when dealing with the IRS.


20 posted on 06/28/2014 8:52:27 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: SeekAndFind


21 posted on 06/28/2014 8:57:33 AM PDT by QT3.14 (Tagline space for sale)
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To: SeekAndFind

This man is as sleazy as all good Chicago politicians


22 posted on 06/28/2014 9:14:22 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: justa-hairyape
The IRS commissioner is lying just like Lois Lerner.

No kidding. Expect some low-key statement from an IRS spokesperson clarifying what the Commissioner meant: "The Commissioner said 'white' when he really meant to say 'black' which is the official IRS policy."

23 posted on 06/28/2014 9:25:10 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: SeekAndFind
See my tag line....

Leni

24 posted on 06/28/2014 9:26:45 AM PDT by MinuteGal (The Infernal Revenue Service - forever to be known as the BS-IRS)
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To: SeekAndFind

If you believe Koskinen I have several bridges for sale, many near you.


25 posted on 06/28/2014 10:11:08 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: SeekAndFind

i don’t believe the irs commissioner for one blessed second.


26 posted on 06/28/2014 11:18:41 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks SeekAndFind.


27 posted on 06/28/2014 12:55:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SeekAndFind
Koskinen told Blitzer that what may come to be known as “The Lerner Defense” is and has been acceptable to the IRS.

I suspect chosen liberal elites will be able to use the "Lerner Defense" - but it'll be off limits to Tea Party Members...

28 posted on 06/28/2014 1:49:42 PM PDT by GOPJ (Losing a battle doesnÂ’t mean losing the war... Freeper livius)
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To: SeekAndFind
IRS commissioner says you can now use the Lois Lerner excuse if audited

Lies.. lies.. and more damn lies.

29 posted on 06/29/2014 1:21:02 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll bet that this John Koskinen has never had a smash in the face or a kick in the ass. It’s about time he did.


30 posted on 06/29/2014 1:26:22 AM PDT by Octar
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