Skip to comments.US: Jordan may ask Israel to go to war against ISIL
Posted on 06/28/2014 9:24:42 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper
Jordan may ask Israel and the United States to help it fight the al-Qaeda-linked jihadi group that threatens Syria and Iraq if it threatens Amman as well, senior Obama administration officials
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Israel will help Jordan defend themselves. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Egypt step up as well.
Then we’d be on both sides and like a double agent, get the benefits of info from what everyone knows and is thinking, and can double-cross at our own discretion.
Sounds just like Bammy and more of the MB in Egypt. Until the folks in-country get wind of it, as too few of us are at present. But that’s your future, Barry, just as it has been more recently for Morsi and crew in Egypt.
Line up on opposite sides of the Valley of Megido?
I’m no isolationist, as I really do think that we should be more involved, BUT I do find it interesting that in the ME and Ukraine we are sloooowly starting to see countries defend themselves and we are slowly starting see countries other than the US step up to help.
That site has a good video of Israel blowing up a car with terrorist inside.
That barroom brawl is taking shape..
I think Israel should tell Jordan they will help if Jordan agrees to take back all the Jordanian “Palestinians” out of Israel.
Israel should trade the lives of the Jordanian “royal” family and Jordan’s security, for the removal of the Jordanian Wakf from the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, and the destruction of the Al Asqa mosque. The dome can stay, although it won’t be visible once the Third Temple is built around and above it.
well we have a few stories where people say some things. Jordan and Saudi’s saying some things. In the meantime ISIS is taking over Syria and Iraq and there doesn’t appear to be anyone seriously trying to stop them. Obama seems OK to just let terrorists take over the middle east.
SUPPORT ASSAD AND ALLOW *HIM* TO CLEAR OUT THE TERRORISTS. I seem to recall he is considered to be the legitimate ruler of Syria by the United Nations. The idea that paying one group of stateless militants to take care of another group and at the same time engineer a regime change in Syria is ludicrous in the extreme!
Assad of Syria *is* making an effort - he’s even had permission to strike with aircraft against ISIS within Iraq. Yet, Obama and Kerry persist in the notion that Assad needs to be taken out. Why, really, why?
The ideal combination would be Kurdistan (independent nation, carved out of the Kurdish areas occupied by Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Turkey), Israel, and Jordan (Jordan and Kurdistan could just close the gap between them).
I doubt that it will happen, because there’s no way for the racist Hashemite regime in Jordan to enter a public alliance with Israel, unless it lasted a matter of a day or so (like the Syrian invasion of Jordan the elder Assad carried out to support the PLO’s attempt to overthrow the late King Hussein); and because Jordan isn’t under any real external threat. If Jordan were under an external threat, it would come from Iran, or Assad.
Also, Erdogan has still not come around to the obvious idea that Kurdistan would make Turkey’s second greatest ally, well, greatest since Turkey has dumped Israel.
Jordan might ally with Assad, and the two of them gang up on both the AQ and ISIS, while dumping Zero, Lurch, Plugs and the rest. That would give Martin Indyk and Catherine Ashton something new to blame on Israel.
That’s because Obama is an enemy of the state (US). There are only two explanations IMO
1. Obama is a hopeless idealist and backs rebel uprisings against dictators (”the man”) and is just a dumn fool
2. Obama intentionally wants terrorists to control the middle east.
If I had to pick I would say it is #1. I don’t think Obama is serious or competent enough to get involved in #2. But regardless of WHY he is doing it he is an enemy of the state.
Hussein Al-Obama wants this as Israel bombing Muslims is the one thing that may spur wider uprisings and the creation of the caliphate.
Once Israel has permission to over fly Jordan, what’s to stop them from hitting Iran? The route and refueling WAS the problem.
Yes, that Golan Heights article was another indicator.
Just off the top of my head I can see several fighting factions.
Inner core: ISIS, al-Duri’s group, Peshmarga, Sadr and the Shia militia, Iraq army (such as it may be), Iranian Quds. Within that group will various tribes as well with shifing loyalties.
Outer core: Turkey, Syria, Israel, Jordan, S.A.
International Powers: US/nato and Russia
I’m certainly leaving someone out. My guess is still free for all.
I have a lot of sympathy for the Kurdish Peshmarga. They have been shafted so many times. Obviously a huge amount of respect for Israel. Too bad our genious president has managed to alienate both of them.
If Assad falls, ISIS has a clear path to the Med. No established country benefits from this cancer spreading. While they're still landlocked, ISIS should be wiped off the face of the map.
Jordan is 95% Sunni Muslim, secular and werternized.
For what possible reason would the Obama administration advertise the fact that Jordan may (in the future) need Israel to bail them out against Sunni radicals in ISIS/ISIL?
=> Obama is trying now to destabilize Jordan.
That’s a good idea.
More sincerely, the article is exaggerating. Such action would only be a border defense and containment effort.
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Israel will help. Not sure I'd count on the US, though we had a couple thousand Marines there last year. Not sure what presence remains other than trainers. But no matter, ISIS would value an American tripwire about as much as Assad would our red line.
If O'bummers' Muzzie b'hood had not been overthrown in Egypt and Libya after "O" had handed the two countries over to them - it would be truly a run-a-way road to the New Caliphate -
Without those two countries having said 'hell no' to "O" and his buddies, the lid on this Pandora's Box might never again be closed -
Frightening to think that "O" had that vast area of those 2 countries, including control of the Suez - all lined up for this day. Israel would disappear and the rest is unimaginable - Europe is saturated with sleeper jihardists - and there's far too many in every other country, including Canada and US. (They have spent 5 decades 'populating' the countries [allowing the men to 'divorce and remarry again and again in order to produce more children that are now into adulthood and trained for this day] - a deliberate second arm of their jihard - and the worlds countries sat by and let them! And the weapon of war with this arm of the jihard: "Political Correctness.") -
Just praying that the old axiom: "Always darkest before the dawn" plays out here. We need the Sun to rise and burn these cretins back into the sand. (Seems this has to be done every 600-800 years. Drop a you know what on that little black shack with the moon rock - maybe break that mass mind control
That would make a great start to a peace treaty! Maybe a 7 year peace treaty :-)
Putin is being vilified by the media - which is controlled by those either in simpatico with the cretins - totally ignorant of reality or hoping to skim off some power/money off the edges without getting burned.
But Putin has been fighting these jihardists tooth and nail all along - he didn't "invade" the Crimea - he came at their plea to keep them from being absorbed by NATO and the EU, which was on the brink of happening - which are already absorbed by the Jihardists...
He's the ONLY world leader calling for the world's leaders to help stop the new wholesale of slaughtering Christians. Have you heard ONE WORD from "O'bummer' on this? NOT ONE WORD.
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Putin called on world leaders to stop the wholesale slaughtering of Christians - crickets from the World. Crickets from O’Bummer
that was my first thought too.
Send them back to whence they came -
Putin sent in Muslim Chechens to slaughter Christians in Georgia and now he is doing it again in Ukraine.
Putin is enriching the Uranium of Muslim Iran, the same country that wants to wipe Israel off the map.
If Jordan and Egypt, in the course of the aftermath of a complete rout of ISIL, should happen to quietly annex Ghaza and presently-designated Areas A of Judah and Samaria, excepting Nablus (Shechem) and Hebron, it could turn out a whole lot worse, and should be followed up by an unequivocal annexation of presently-designated Areas C, leaving presently-designated Areas B under Israeli military occupation but Jordanian legal jurisdiction with some international monitors. Watch Obama claim credit, if it happens and it works.