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Poll: Would you have intervened in Salem assault?
NJ.COM ^ | 06/28/2014 | Jessica Beym

Posted on 06/28/2014 1:55:53 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen

A Salem City woman is being sought by police for her alleged role in a brutal attack on a 27-year-old woman Tuesday. Latia Harris, 25, is accused of assaulting Catherine Ferreira and threatening to kick the woman's 2-year-old son while a crowd of onlookers stood and watched, some of them recording the beating with their cell phones rather than intervening.

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1 posted on 06/28/2014 1:55:53 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

It’s a shame those heroic commenters weren’t around to save the day.


2 posted on 06/28/2014 2:05:43 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Kid Shelleen

I would have enjoyed getting in the middle of that one.


3 posted on 06/28/2014 2:06:09 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Kid Shelleen

Likely any white person attempting to intervene would have been torn apart by the crowd of negros enjoying the spectacle.


4 posted on 06/28/2014 2:07:27 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Kid Shelleen

I certainly would have called the police and stayed on the phone with dispatch until they got there, but as a 69 year old female, I would not have thrown myself into the fight. Now, taken the child out of reach? Yes.


5 posted on 06/28/2014 2:10:09 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

I would have but only if I had a gun and she turned on me after I told her to stop. But then I’d probaly get whooped by the crowd for breaking up a free fight night.


6 posted on 06/28/2014 2:10:12 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

Probably because all those heroic commenters work for a living.


7 posted on 06/28/2014 2:11:27 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Kid Shelleen

I like to think that I would have done something.

Truthfully though, I probably wouldn’t have. :(


8 posted on 06/28/2014 2:14:37 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Kid Shelleen

Only with a tranquilizer dart.


9 posted on 06/28/2014 2:15:45 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I would have...I’m a former correctional officer and intervened in many a fight...


10 posted on 06/28/2014 2:17:34 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: bjorn14
And you would have been arrested and made the next George Zimmerman.
That said I like to think I would have intervened to at least stop the beating. I certainly would have called 911.

Any Freepers carry mace when they don't carry firearms ?
11 posted on 06/28/2014 2:19:51 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: terycarl
@Terrycarl
What do you recommend for controlling hostile crowds?
12 posted on 06/28/2014 2:21:13 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Honestly? Me? NO!!! Hell no. What would be seen? A white man, attacking a black muslim woman. My life would have been destroyed and it is a very dangerous place for a what man to fight any black when a crowd of black people are around. If I even survived intervening think of how many manginas there are that would kill me just for daring to lay my hands on a woman.


13 posted on 06/28/2014 2:23:36 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Kid Shelleen

Nope. I also wouldn’t get involved in a fight between two feral pitbulls either ?

They could kill and eat each other for all I care.

This is not the America I once knew.... this is Obama’s and the democrats mess, it’s not mine anymore.

I would walk away, and call 911... on my way to buy an ice cream.


14 posted on 06/28/2014 2:25:03 PM PDT by Gator113 ( Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin and Mike Lee speak for me, most everyone else is just noise.)
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To: doorgunner69; All
"Likely any white person attempting to intervene would have been torn apart by the crowd of negros enjoying the spectacle."

Such observations have to be taken into consideration before taking the risk of getting involved in a fight. In fact, the need for an iPhone app that shows 911 response times based on GPS coordinates comes to mind.

15 posted on 06/28/2014 2:27:37 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Kid Shelleen

Take up for a woman who was too naive to know she needed a weapon?
My daughter carries a knife for just this reason.
Those who will not prepare must suffer their fate as canaries in the coal mine.


16 posted on 06/28/2014 2:29:10 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Kid Shelleen
Yes because she had a child with her.

Years ago I was verbally bashed by a woman cursing at me and calling me whitey and cracker while I walked with my young son (who wasn't much older than that little one.)

Funny part is she was saying that I didn't belong in that neighborhood because I was white.
I grew up there.

Yep she was real brave she was...

The thing is I would also do it for a black woman who had her child with her.
17 posted on 06/28/2014 2:29:25 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Kid Shelleen

From just about everything that I’ve read, 1 buck is hard to beat in those situations.


18 posted on 06/28/2014 2:31:31 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: Kid Shelleen

If the pic of Latitia Harris on the right is correct, then this hijabi was just doing a little jihad on the infidel!
19 posted on 06/28/2014 2:33:43 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

And she has that Thousand Yard Stare Of Death that some many Muzzies have.


20 posted on 06/28/2014 2:35:01 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I would have called 911. I’d never have been there, though.


21 posted on 06/28/2014 2:37:25 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I usually do intervene in bad situations such as this in public. Usually those who are with me, warn me to “stay out of it” ... LOL ...


22 posted on 06/28/2014 2:37:35 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: bjorn14

another reason for having more than a 7 shot magazine.


23 posted on 06/28/2014 2:37:37 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Kid Shelleen

There’s a reason why crazy assed crackers should avoid certain neighborhoods. Let them take out their own.


24 posted on 06/28/2014 2:46:46 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Gator113

“This is not the America I once knew.... this is Obama’s and the democrats mess, it’s not mine anymore.”

My sentiments exactly. Sadly, not only is the law stacked against any white man who tries to intervene or stop any kind of incident, even a murder, involving a non-white ethnic minority, but the non-white ethnic crowd would tear that white man to shreds.

So, I will only “jump in” or fight to save me and mine. viciously attacked.

But that’s it.

I will not go to jail to try to save someone not fitting the above. I will not ruin my family’s well-being and livelihood, either.

Obama and the Democrats have destroyed this country. God damn them all to hell!


25 posted on 06/28/2014 2:46:50 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

If she had ferals around no....


26 posted on 06/28/2014 2:47:21 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Kid Shelleen

True story: back in the 70s a guy who worked for my dad intervened to stop a man from beating a women outside of a bar. The guy who was beating the women senseless & the WOMEN turned on my dad’s employee and started beating on him....it gets worse.

The guy who was beating the women (who it turns out was his girl friend) took a knife out and hacked my dad’s employee to death. I was a young kid, and after this my dad took me aside and said remember this: don’t get involved with strangers fighting.

It was a difficult thing for my dad to do cause he was a WW 2 guy. Good citizen. Loved people, but this changed him. Changed me too. The whole “no good deed goes unpunished” thing entered my life.


27 posted on 06/28/2014 2:49:53 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: LongWayHome

I understand. As much as someone who has never experienced anything remotely like your story can empathize. I think, the best thing for me to do would be to call the cops and film it. Have they caught her yet? Have they fired her from McDonalds’ yet?


28 posted on 06/28/2014 3:00:12 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

It’s a different country now.


29 posted on 06/28/2014 3:03:16 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: Wiser now
but as a 69 year old female

I'll be 69 tomorrow, if I make it. Catching up on you kiddo.

30 posted on 06/28/2014 3:10:41 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. 1 Cor 16: 32)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Where are Christie’s rainbow voters?

Maybe Thad Cochran should come in for a peace gathering.

The illegals murdered 3 black college students in 2007. Tancredo and Romney hit Giuliani on his sanctuary city support.

http://newarknj.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/final-defendant-in-schoolyard-murders-sentenced-wednesday

http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2014/02/family_and_friends_seek_justice_for_guatemalan_native_killed_in_trenton.html


31 posted on 06/28/2014 3:15:57 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Kid Shelleen

I remember when we had an office near a mall. One day a large black woman came running in being pursued by an even larger mall cop. “Stop her”, he yelled. We were all thinking “Yeah, right” as we moved out of their way. I never know how I will react to a particular situation. If I have my family with me I might react 180 degrees differently than when I don’t.


32 posted on 06/28/2014 3:17:18 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I’m a middle aged woman, but I would certainly have grabbed the kid (such a good boy who strove to defend his mother) and called 911. I also might have gone into the McD’s and told the managers that one of his workers was out of control.


33 posted on 06/28/2014 3:23:36 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: Kid Shelleen
Mace is probably illegal in many of these "blue" states anyway.

A better (legal) choice is a can of hornet spray and a lighter. The hornet spray is designed to spray a nest from 20-30 feet away with a long, narrow stream. Hold a lighter in front of it, and you've got the most fearsome weapon any of those quasi-humanoid mutants have ever seen. There's something very primal and horrific about setting an animal like that on fire, I'd say.

34 posted on 06/28/2014 3:25:27 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Eh, it seems they knew each other worked together, it was personal between them. Of course the black woman is in the wrong, but it seems that this was not exactly a race-based attack.


35 posted on 06/28/2014 3:26:20 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: Kid Shelleen

As the old saying goes,”If whitey don’t win,we all jump in”.


36 posted on 06/28/2014 3:28:20 PM PDT by freedomtrail (EEOC- Eventual Elimination Of Caucasians)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
"And she has that Thousand Yard Stare Of Death that some many Muzzies have."

I call that the Dead Soul look.

37 posted on 06/28/2014 3:29:11 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

“The illegals murdered 3 black college students in 2007”

You remember! I mentioned that heinous crime the other day here.

I really thought things would change. That the blacks might wake up and realize the left wasn’t really on their side.

But....nothing.

And it got plenty of coverage in NJ. It wasn’t like the MSM hid the story.

One gal survived (iirc, she literally played dead) and gave testimony at the trial.

Nothing has changed. Illegal, criminal hispanic trumps black. Does it trump gay? That’s what we are waiting to find out.


38 posted on 06/28/2014 3:30:56 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: doorgunner69
Likely any white person attempting to intervene would have been torn apart by the crowd of negros enjoying the spectacle.

The only safe way to intervene would have been to put a bullet into the attacker, but that would have gotten the rescuer the Zimmerman treatment. And NJ is NOT a shall-issue CCW state.

39 posted on 06/28/2014 3:31:36 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

About 20 years ago I witnessed a similar situation in Oakland with one difference. A ginormous black woman was smacking the living crap out of a small black guy. Crowd of about 12 males and females egging her on. I went and got into my vehicle and immediately got hemmed in by arriving cop cars. After 30 minutes or so a Sgt. came over and asked me if I had seen anything and I said “No, officer I had my head down doing paperwork.” he said “Smart man.” There were kids present by it wasn’t worth my life to get involved.


40 posted on 06/28/2014 3:39:22 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Tzimisce

Most of us when faced with real violence freeze. In training for combat that freeze response has to be overcome for a soldier to be of any use.


41 posted on 06/28/2014 3:40:24 PM PDT by xp38
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To: jocon307

Just a Muzzie keeping down the infidel!


42 posted on 06/28/2014 3:40:31 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Kid Shelleen
"“No one hunts with an assault rifle. No one needs 10 bullets to kill a deer!" - Governor Andrew Cuomo (Demagogue-NY)

Maybe not. But there is a reason people might need more rounds available and it has nothing to do with killing dee-ah!

With all the ferals in that scene standing around egging it on, it may have taken more than the seven rounds now allowed in NY to stop the attempted murder and especially if others decided to pile on you if you were attempting to stop it.

Of course, this was in New Joisey, so the chance of having any firearm around to defend oneself against these murderous ferals is slim and none and slim left town long ago.

This is one reason I try and stay out of these hell hole places that don't allow personal carry where the ferals have all the cards stacked in their favor.

Calling 911 may eventually result in incarceration and conviction (pretty unlikely, though) but what good is it going to do you if you are lying in a coma or dead?

43 posted on 06/28/2014 3:40:34 PM PDT by Gritty (The war is over. We won. - Michael Yon, Top Iraq War Correspondent, 07/21/2008)
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To: Amendment10
the need for an iPhone app

Not a slam on you, but why is it that so many assume everyone has one of these?

44 posted on 06/28/2014 3:51:46 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

“Likely any white person attempting to intervene would have been torn apart by the crowd of negros enjoying the spectacle.”

I pity anyone who has to be anywhere near a pack of unassimilated gibsmedats like that; every day you take your life in your hands. I wouldn’t have gone anywhere near it (and I’ve done so in the past, when I was naive and idealistic). My family would be told I was trying to lynch a poor defenseless minority fast-food worker...

Technology is great; this story would have gone nowhere if it hadn’t been recorded.


45 posted on 06/28/2014 3:54:27 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ought-six

I couldn’t agree with you more.

This might make you laugh.... For 30 long years I was paid to jump in the middle of that garbage and stop the assault. I retired about 12 years ago. I am the same guy, with the same principals and integrity, but this country and it’s people have changed.

While I am proud of what I accomplished as a very tenacious crime fighting LEO, if I had life to do over again, I think I would have rather been a professional photographer or perhaps a commercial pilot.

You have your mind right, much more than many folks.

I will now go back to lurking mode. ;>)

Cheers.....


46 posted on 06/28/2014 4:26:00 PM PDT by Gator113 ( Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin and Mike Lee speak for me, most everyone else is just noise.)
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To: ConservativeMind; All
Same here, would ended it very quickly...reminds me, of
Kitty Genovicic(sp?) beating in the early 60s in NYC.
47 posted on 06/28/2014 4:29:28 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Jihadist/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: Kid Shelleen
I carry a martial arts (wooden) training cane..
w/more than 10+ yrs. of experience w/ it.
48 posted on 06/28/2014 4:34:07 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Jihadist/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: doorgunner69; All

My comment was intended to break the ice with respect to possible safety nets for such situations.


49 posted on 06/28/2014 4:34:35 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Gator113

Thank you for your LEO service. I only hope your LEO brothers choose the right side when the time for choosing sides becomes essential.


50 posted on 06/28/2014 4:40:16 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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