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Iraq receives first batch of Russian fighter jets
thenational.ae ^ | June 29, 2014 | thenational.ae

Posted on 06/29/2014 6:03:20 AM PDT by klpt

BAGHDAD // Iraq said it received the first batch of Sukhoi warplanes from Russia as it pressed a counter-attack Sunday against Sunni militants whose offensive threatens to tear the country apart.

The arrival of the fighter jets comes with Iraqi forces, backed by aerial cover, pushing to retake the militant-held city of Tikrit and world leaders urging a speeding up of government formation following elections in April.

The Su-25 ground attack jets are expected to be pressed into service as soon as possible, bolstering Iraq’s air power as it combats a sweeping offensive by militants, led by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), that has killed more than 1,000 people and sparked a humanitarian crisis with hundreds of thousands displaced.

But it remains unclear who will fly them — executed dictator Saddam Hussein’s air force had Su-25s, but even if they were both trusted and willing, those pilots are unlikely to have had time in the aircraft in more than a decade.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; isis; russia; su25

1 posted on 06/29/2014 6:03:20 AM PDT by klpt
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To: klpt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zr3fnVXC4U


2 posted on 06/29/2014 6:04:29 AM PDT by klpt
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To: klpt

Some said they got Su-24 Fencers. Was that in error?

That’s a whole lot different than an Su-25 Frogfoot.


3 posted on 06/29/2014 6:04:37 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

Gog Magog...


4 posted on 06/29/2014 6:13:50 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Seedlings of it, perhaps. Iran is definitely at the forefront.

I’m expecting ISIS to go after Israel in some small ways, with their captured equipment. We’ll see how much influence Iran gets inside of Iraq. Still wouldn’t surprise me to see Iraq broken up between Shia, Sunni and Kurd. Though the first two are rather mixed together.

Oy. What a mess.


5 posted on 06/29/2014 6:16:03 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle
Not the same.

The rooskies version of our A-10. I wouldn't want this flying over my position.

6 posted on 06/29/2014 6:16:09 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: F15Eagle

bump


7 posted on 06/29/2014 6:17:46 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: corkoman

Oh I know how much different they are. I’m just wondering if they got each or just one type?


8 posted on 06/29/2014 6:20:27 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

They look like the Frogfoot

Iran just returned 130 Iraqi aircraft that fled during DESERT STORM (that would be Mig21, Mig29, Mig23?, maybe some F1 Mirages and..SU24Fencers?) supposedly in refurbished condition with weapons (if one can believe Iranian press)

If so this must infer that Iraq Air Force pilots have had access, maybe permitted to continue training and flying in neighboring countries unless they are bringing in Soviet and Syrian pilots?

I haven’t seen any reporting about the Iraqi Air Force for a long time


9 posted on 06/29/2014 6:24:14 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: corkoman
But the Russians are complete fools keeping the SU-25 in their inventory. After all, the Great Mahdi, supported by the Genius Hagel, has led the way by proposing to phase out our fleet of A-!0s, aircraft that are totally obsolete since we will never again need such ground attack assets.
10 posted on 06/29/2014 6:26:30 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: ConservativeMan55; F15Eagle

Another chess peace in place for WWIII???


11 posted on 06/29/2014 6:30:25 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: klpt

This is not being reported in the US press, but the Russians have cut a deal with Maliki and THEY are sending SU-24 attack aircraft into Iraq to fight ISIS. The first ten arrived this weekend. Putin is making a fool of Obama...again. They are also sending in Mi-28 and M-35 attack helicopters.

If this holds, and they are successful in blunting ISIS, Russia will come away from this with the long term influence in Iraq that our personnel bled, were wounded, and died for.


12 posted on 06/29/2014 6:32:34 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: klpt

It seems that “The Great ObamaNation” has driven Iraq right into “the arms” of Russia.


13 posted on 06/29/2014 6:33:17 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: danamco; silverleaf; sukhoi-30mki

I thought some of these were new purchases from Mother Russia.

We keep heading down the road to Gog-Magog. Perhaps other wars before.

The economic crisis will result in a cashless society. All the money is way beyond fiat these days.

The Ann Barnhardt article touches on it. I wonder if she realizes this is laying the groundwork for a one-world economic system? She writes as if she has some inkling of it.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3172906/posts

Negative Nominal Interest Rates: Highway to a Cashless, Statist Hell

Hell is appropriate. It will come in the form of Satan’s anti-messiah, the Antichrist. These things make the roadway for him.


14 posted on 06/29/2014 6:37:34 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: klpt

The U.S. Had better reexamine the thought of delivering F-16’s to Iraq until there is a semblance of political stability.

Iraq is expecting the delivery of 30 F-16’s.I don’t think it would be wise to deliver them right now.


15 posted on 06/29/2014 6:40:30 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: klpt
Russia give weapons to Iraq to defend itself from fanatical Christian killers.

The Obama Regime and its GOP Establishment partners tells Iraq to go jump in a lake and then gives money and weapons to the fanatical Christian killers.

Obama Asks For $500 Million To Equip Syrian "Rebels"

16 posted on 06/29/2014 6:43:42 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: klpt

An how many Russian speaking “contractors” will be onsite to keep the planes flying and designate targets?


17 posted on 06/29/2014 6:44:33 AM PDT by fso301
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To: klpt

Obama is giving Iraq a bucket of used golf balls.


18 posted on 06/29/2014 6:46:53 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: klpt
The Uncle Igor's Used Plane Lot is still in business! Yeah!

How many Sukhoi 25's are still available, 20-30 thousand? Lightly used, scarcely any bullet holes. '0'down, E-Z finance. Why walk when you can fly ... and shoot stuff?

19 posted on 06/29/2014 6:48:32 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: fso301
There is a lot of horsewash going around today.
Today,there is not an Iraqi pilot trained to do ground support or any crew that could get these planes back in the air and hung for combat.
The bottom line is Russian pilots and Russian air crew/logistics and by necessity, Russian security forces
are pouring into Iraq.
TWB
20 posted on 06/29/2014 7:04:37 AM PDT by TWhiteBear (a)
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To: klpt

I would imagine that Iraqi ground control is pretty weak. Just send these new planes up and hope they don’t destroy each other?


21 posted on 06/29/2014 7:18:43 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: TWhiteBear

Also Syrian and Iranian pilots and ground personnel
well accustomed to working with Russian advisors

I am not sure the Iranians are ready yet to trust a reconstituted Iraqi air force, even if the officer were Shia


22 posted on 06/29/2014 7:28:59 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: klpt

Why should we expect the Iraqi air force to be any more dedicated, any more disciplined, or any more competent than the Iraqi army was?


23 posted on 06/29/2014 7:32:23 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: danamco
Another chess peace in place for WWIII???

Not sure if this was a spelling error or on purpose, but I going with on purpose.

Given the place, time and players, I think "chess peace" is very clever.

24 posted on 06/29/2014 7:43:03 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: DoodleDawg

education, technical capability, and western exposure


25 posted on 06/29/2014 8:06:15 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: blueunicorn6

“Obama is giving Iraq a bucket of used golf balls.”

That bucket has holes in it, the size of tennis balls.


26 posted on 06/29/2014 9:03:45 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo, the Sunni Won-Doer, will not divert $'s from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: TWhiteBear

“Today,there is not an Iraqi pilot trained to do ground support or any crew that could get these planes back in the air and hung for combat.

The bottom line is Russian pilots and Russian air crew/logistics and by necessity, Russian security forces
are pouring into Iraq.”

Bingo, Iraq will be paying Russia to kill the Islamofascists the Russians hate in free fire zones throughout Iraq.


27 posted on 06/29/2014 9:09:19 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo, the Sunni Won-Doer, will not divert $'s from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: Grampa Dave

That’s some very good imagery.


28 posted on 06/29/2014 9:14:11 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: silverleaf
education, technical capability, and western exposure

The army had all that as well.

29 posted on 06/29/2014 3:12:10 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: TWhiteBear
Russian pilots and Russian air crew/logistics and by necessity, Russian security forces are pouring into Iraq.

Is Russki Way, tovarich! The Worthy Oriental Gentlemen will need a bit of refresher training before operating this equipment.

Saddam however, did have a substantial number of SU 25 drivers on hand. Presumably they are not all now living in LA and Toledo and may be available for re-employment.

30 posted on 06/30/2014 6:37:00 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: F15Eagle
I have always wondered how the A-10 and this thing shape up in a head-to-head comparison. What do you think?

Here's what one guy says:

http://defencesummits.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/su-25vsa-10_1.jpg

31 posted on 06/30/2014 6:49:44 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: fella

Likewise Syria bypassing the red line!!!


32 posted on 06/30/2014 9:36:38 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

It’s ALL playing out from Rothschild’s calculated playbook NWO!!!

Wasn’t there a red line drawn in Syria???


33 posted on 06/30/2014 9:41:16 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Kenny Bunk

File not found!!!


34 posted on 06/30/2014 9:48:02 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: danamco
File not found!!!

Copy and paste into your browser. Works like champion!

35 posted on 06/30/2014 10:05:22 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Yep


36 posted on 06/30/2014 2:15:40 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Kenny Bunk

BTW where you now? We’ve moved to Hudson!


37 posted on 06/30/2014 2:17:50 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: danamco

In Belfast, Maine for a few more days. Then back to settle up with some Floridiots.


38 posted on 06/30/2014 6:53:58 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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