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Despite the grousing, voters rarely fire lawmakers
Washington Examiner ^ | June 29 2014 | AP

Posted on 06/29/2014 10:37:07 AM PDT by PoloSec

Edited on 06/29/2014 10:40:41 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

In fact, two-thirds of Americans want their own House member booted. And the tea party is dogging longtime Republican lawmakers.

So incumbents are sweating out this year's election, right?

Nope. Mostly they're not.

People talk about throwing the bums out, but voters keep sending the same bunch back in.


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I've been saying all along, this low profile, behind the scenes Tea Party program is not working too well, we need to get back out on the streets, in their face, that's how it started and that's what has worked.
1 posted on 06/29/2014 10:37:07 AM PDT by PoloSec
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To: PoloSec

Fenno’s Paradox


2 posted on 06/29/2014 10:38:05 AM PDT by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: PoloSec

People love their own Congressmen and hate all the others.

We need to change congrssional election laws so that each person can vote for all members of congress except for their own.


3 posted on 06/29/2014 10:41:00 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: PoloSec

No.

The incumbents have a lock on who the state parties nominate. You can’t vote for somebody who’s not nominated by the Republican Rinos in the state party apparatus.

You can knock on all the doors you want, but if the state party dictators have a death-grip on the party funds and nominating process, it’s all for naught.

People need to understand how their state party organization works and invade it.


4 posted on 06/29/2014 10:43:42 AM PDT by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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To: Oliviaforever
We need to change congressional election laws so that each person can vote for all members of congress except for their own.

I sympathize with what you're saying. But that would take a rewrite of the Constitution, not to mention the absolute chaos and expense of having everybody voting for 435 individual congressional races. No thanks. Things are bad enough.

5 posted on 06/29/2014 10:52:13 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: squarebarb

Bump!

The fastest growing party is the LIVs. People like us bitch about our Reps and Senators and try to do something about it. But the LIVs have us outnumbered.

And the Marxists and libs (but I repeat myself) work 24/7/365 to increase the number of LIVs.

Common Core is a fine example.


6 posted on 06/29/2014 11:00:26 AM PDT by upchuck (Everyday, Joe Wilson becomes more correct!)
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To: PoloSec

Maybe if they made it “firing squad” instead of “firing”. That would definitely get more interest.


7 posted on 06/29/2014 11:01:59 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: PoloSec

A couple of problems. For one thing, this “Tea Party” label has got to go. There’s no such thing in the first place, and it exists only because the press has managed to lump any conservative or objector to the Dem/GOPe project as a “tea partier.” In my town, the group that calls itself the Tea Party (all ten of them) occasionally marches around in 18th century outfits and then uses your e-mail address to spam you with weight-loss and Viagra ads (regardless of your sex!).

Another is that we do have to get more involved in the overall process. I’ve been thinking a lot about the things that happened in MS, and a couple of things occurred to me. For one thing, conservatives need to get involved not only intellectually, but in the day to day conduct of elections and GOTV drives. More poll watchers in MS would probably have been a big help.

That may mean working with the state GOP, an experience that is frustrating beyond belief, because it’s a combination of party hacks and incompetents, coupled with a low level staff of “interns” who are complete idiots and are only there for a couple of months at a time - so of course they have no idea what’s going on.

Naturally, these people don’t want conservatives or anybody who’s going to call them to account. However, bit by bit in my county, a few good people have managed to get in and things are changing.

So overall I think there’s got to be more mainstream influence and less letting the press and the Dems and the GOPd define anybody who doesn’t agree with them as a “Tea Partier” and hence a flake who can be written off.


8 posted on 06/29/2014 11:04:56 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

I agree about changing the name from TEA party.

And NO I do NOT love my “rep”. See tagline.

We truly are OUTNUMBERED by MORONS.


9 posted on 06/29/2014 11:16:05 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: PoloSec

Partially due to vote fixing.


10 posted on 06/29/2014 11:21:04 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: PoloSec; All

http://www.veteranspartyofamerica.org/


11 posted on 06/29/2014 11:27:07 AM PDT by airborne (My heroes don't wear capes - My heroes wear dog tags!)
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To: Oliviaforever

We need to change congrssional {sic} election laws so that each
person can vote for all members of congress except for their own.

************

Now that would really put the monied groups in control of the entire election process.
Actually the best method is to bring the entire process down to it’s lowest denominator and
location, then remove all the non local entities out of the process and let the locals elect
amongst themselves. At least that would be close to being representative of the home folks.
jmo.


12 posted on 06/29/2014 11:37:24 AM PDT by deport
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To: livius

Good, common-sense approach, Livius.

How hard can it be to just show up at your local republican party meeting?


13 posted on 06/29/2014 11:42:36 AM PDT by Walrus (I love the America that used to be ---I hate the America that now IS!)
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To: upchuck

“The fastest growing party is the LIVs”

Otherwise known as “The Free Sh** Army”.


14 posted on 06/29/2014 11:45:24 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: PoloSec; All

The consequence of parents not making sure that their children are taught about the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers is the following. When the corrupt feds say “bend over” on any issue, the constitutionally illiterate sheeple ask, “how far?”


15 posted on 06/29/2014 11:54:50 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: PoloSec
Members of congress all boxed up and ready for their next junket:


16 posted on 06/29/2014 11:56:05 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle?" - Patrick Henry, 1775)
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To: Maceman

Yes, but election night would be more exciting.


17 posted on 06/29/2014 12:27:42 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Walrus

The hardest thing is that the local party club is composed of such complacent idiots and petty would-be bureaucrats! But that’s where you have to start.

FR posters attribute malevolence to the local GOP, but I can tell you from personal experience, it’s more stupidity and just going along to get along than anything else.

One place where I lived, the husband of the head of the local GOP ran a pyramid marketing scheme and then did “faith healings” in his garage when he wasn’t selling his faux product. She was busy helping him (when she wasn’t turning away volunteers) and actually “borrowed” the modest computer equipment the GOP office had in order to put it in the garage. There finally was an audit and they left, but it only happened because a few more aggressive conservative people had joined.

It’s very frustrating to work with these people. But then, since I’ve been getting weight-loss and Viagra ads from the local “Tea Party” e-mail list, I guess there’s no safe place.

Politics is simply ugly, but the problem is that it controls our lives in a lot of ways and anybody who has the guts should really go out there and start fighting. Surprisingly enough, people do join you. They were probably just waiting.


18 posted on 06/29/2014 12:53:16 PM PDT by livius
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To: headstamp 2

True. I’ve been following the Cochran debacle, and apparently, the thing that put it over the top was flyers handed out to black voters that told them that McDaniel, the opponent, was going to take away their “free stuff.”

I would love to see one single black person stand up and say this was degrading and disgusting, but that’s never going to happen. Instead, they all did what the Dem/Cochran campaign told them to do and got on their church busses and voted for Cochran.


19 posted on 06/29/2014 12:56:49 PM PDT by livius
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To: PoloSec

The game is now rigged so that it’s almost impossible to replace members of the House and Senate. We need to repeal the 17th Amendment and the House Rule limiting membership to 435.

Please check out my blog post: http://backyardfence.wordpress.com/conservative-action-plan/


20 posted on 06/29/2014 1:10:21 PM PDT by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: PoloSec

Congressional districts are far too large, over 720,000 constituents. As our framing generation knew, large districts meant an aristocratic rather than representative House of Reps.

Double at least the number of reps and send the states back to the senate.


21 posted on 06/29/2014 1:15:17 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: Perdogg

There’s no paradox, it’s campaign finance reform. Every time they tighten the donation regulations the rate of incumbent return goes up. Because they always make it harder to get money, which makes the fact that incumbents can campaign as part of their “governing” (that wasn’t a campaign, that was a meeting with my constituents) more valuable. If we want to see some turn over ditch CFR.


22 posted on 06/29/2014 1:24:16 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: discostu; Perdogg
If we want to see some turn over ditch CFR.

Recall that McCain-Feingold was also known as the "Incumbency Protection & Media Empowerment Act of 2002".

Recall also that John McCain counted "keeping experienced legislators on the job" as one of the acts benefits.

23 posted on 06/29/2014 1:42:47 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: gspurlock
Please check out my blog post: http://backyardfence.wordpress.com/conservative-action-plan/

That is a good plan, but it will take a revolution to implement it, one that in no way can happen in a peaceful manner. IMO!

The Republic is just too far gone, we hem hawed around too long.

24 posted on 06/29/2014 3:19:12 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: PoloSec

Tell that to CANTOR!!!

We don’t have to fire that many...in fact, one is JUST ENOUGH, to get the MESSAGE ACROSS that we MEAN BUSINESS.

So yea, go tell the OTHER Republicans from OK, AK, KS, and the rest of the country that Cantor was a FLUKE...and see what they have to say.


25 posted on 06/29/2014 3:29:06 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Oliviaforever
Yes, but election night would be more exciting.

Well, I don't know about that, but I'm trying to imagine what the voting experience would be if every voter had to make a selection in all 435 congressional races.

26 posted on 06/30/2014 7:04:45 AM PDT by Maceman
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