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Katrina Vanden Heuvel Attacks Bill Kristrol on Iraq War: ‘If You Feel So Strongly(TRANSCRIPT)
News Busters ^
| June 29 2014
| Jeffrey Meyer
Posted on 06/29/2014 11:31:16 AM PDT by PoloSec
FULL TITLE: Katrina Vanden Heuvel Attacks Bill Kristrol on Iraq War: If You Feel So Strongly...Enlist In The Iraqi Army
Katrina vanden Heuvel, editor of the liberal The Nation magazine, did her best to attack Bill Kristol, editor of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine, over his continued support for the Iraq war and the need to take action to stop the increasing violence in the region.
This Week with George Stephanopoulos
June 29, 2014
10:32 a.m. Eastern
KATRINA VANDEN HEUVEL: You do need a legislative branch which asserts its authority. And its not to say that one doesn't have problem with executive authority when it comes to drones or NSA surveillance. But the balance is out. The balance is off. For example, the president should go to Congress if he's going to take military action in Iraq. And that was a part of your interview. And I think we're siting here at a moment George where were talking about John Boehner. But the central question of war and peace for this country.
There is no military solution to Iraq. And I have to say, sitting next to Bill Kristol, man, I mean, the architects of catastrophe that have cost this country trillions of dollars, thousands of lives, there should be accountability. We should not, if there are no regrets for the failed assumptions that have so grievously wounded this nation, I don't know what happened to our politics and media accountability.
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posted on 06/29/2014 11:31:16 AM PDT
The Weekly Standard is conservative?? Who know????!
posted on 06/29/2014 11:34:15 AM PDT
Correction - Who Knew??!
posted on 06/29/2014 11:36:11 AM PDT
The libs cannot let any blame rest on Obozo.
But he owns this flustercluck COMPLETELY.
posted on 06/29/2014 11:37:44 AM PDT
("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
Katrina was a bitch from the get go on the program. I wanted to stuff an apple in her mouth. She kept “lecturing” the rest of the panel in the same way bammy thinks he’s schooling the country when he opens his piehole.
posted on 06/29/2014 11:38:17 AM PDT
( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
And Katrina along with her magazine is a defender of communism which has wrecked, destroyed and killed literally millions of people.
A liberal talking about accountability. That’s a laugher.
Iraq war defenders never mention the Kurds , whom Sadaam gassed by the 10’s of thousands, and now form the one stable area in the entire region. Strange not to counter punch with that fact.
posted on 06/29/2014 11:45:35 AM PDT
Obviously, the Kurds need to grease more Congressional palms.
posted on 06/29/2014 11:49:09 AM PDT
It’s always hilarious when a liberal uses the word ‘accountability’ because they don’t even know the meaning of the word.
posted on 06/29/2014 11:56:22 AM PDT
(You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
To: headstamp 2
You beat me to it. See post #10
posted on 06/29/2014 11:57:48 AM PDT
(You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
Katrina: if you feel so strongly, go to Iraq and hand out Daisies to ISIS.
posted on 06/29/2014 11:59:39 AM PDT
("A crack shot and a good dancer")
Kristol should have told van den Heuvel to go join ISIL.
Or the North Korean Army. Worthless commie b!tch!
posted on 06/29/2014 12:00:44 PM PDT
("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
If You Feel So Strongly...Enlist In The Iraqi Army
Rebuttal, "And if you care so much for the poor give all your possessions to them. " Actually, since Jesus did suggest that to one young man, it's a lot more to the point.
posted on 06/29/2014 12:05:10 PM PDT
Bill Kristol’s credibility was exhausted years ago. He should hide his face for shame.
posted on 06/29/2014 12:08:39 PM PDT
I thought the panel was good this morning. There seemed to be a real strong consensus that both GWB and Obama have responsibility for the mess we're in. They seemed to agree that both parties had to be more cognizant of elements in their parties that want things to change. Everyone seemed to be pretty disgusted about the mess in Iraq.
Katrina pushed the envelope, sure. What it lead to was a more honest discussion.
posted on 06/29/2014 12:09:25 PM PDT
What did she have to say about the Kurds?
posted on 06/29/2014 12:11:19 PM PDT
I don’t recall if she said anything about the Kurds. The discussion seemed to be more about solving the problems in the US federal gov that lead to actions being taken that circumvent what’s supposed to happen.
posted on 06/29/2014 12:13:25 PM PDT
What a brilliant retort from the hatchet-faced heiress zany Marxist tycoon.
She’s quoted about the devastation we wrought in Iraq other places in this thread. I think your trying to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. She is deceitful and dishonest as always.
posted on 06/29/2014 12:36:55 PM PDT
To: miss marmelstein
posted on 06/29/2014 12:37:10 PM PDT
If Katrina feels that strongly, she should enlist with her side, ISIS.
posted on 06/29/2014 1:01:50 PM PDT
("In the name of Allah, The Inexorable, The Irresistible...")
The mainstream media has such a limited range of voices. Kristol? And what’s her face? They cover liberals and neo-cons, but no real conservatives.
“..and if you feel so strongly about curing cancer, you should go to medical school and become a doctor, and if you feel so strongly about education, you should become a teacher, and if you feel so strongly about high crime, you should become a policeman, and if...”
Sheesh, lady. It’s the kind of argument we expect from a middle-schooler, not a nationally broadcast”commentator”.
posted on 06/29/2014 1:27:24 PM PDT
So using her own reasoning, Ms. V.D. Heuvel could be called an "armchair abortion rights advocate", right? (At least, I am assuming that she has never either performed or undergone an abortion, but I could be wrong).
I would love to see a comeback like that anytime someone uses the ridiculous phrase "armchair warrior". And yes, it is ridiculous, since being a "warrior" is not something which someone just wakes up one day and decides to do. It is a calling and a commitment, no less than deciding to become a doctor because you either want to heal the sick, deliver babies, or, perhaps, provide give women abortions.
So, Ms. V.D. Heuvel, with all due respect (another ludicrous phrase because what follows is always disrespectful and degrading), if you feel so strongly about abortion rights, then why didn't you enroll a long time ago into a medical school so that you could help women to terminate the lives of their unborn children?
Clearly, not everyone has what it takes to be a warrior or a doctor. And the arguments put forth from people like either Kristol and V.D. Heuvel, who have chosen to be media talking heads, need not be supported by calling upon them to make a mid-life career change. For anyone to suggest otherwise is simply inane, and the absurdity of that line of reasoning should be simply called out by putting the shoe on the other foot. Whether we're arguing over war, abortion, labor, immigration. or any other issues, it is simply ridiculous to suggest that those who, by profession, communicate their analysis and opinions o those matters, must defend their conclusions by giving up their career and getting into the trenches with those who are most involved. Like Milton Friedman once said, if you go to a doctor for cancer, would you require that it be a doctor who has cancer?
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