Skip to comments.The not-so-great debate: Dr Michael Brown dismantles 'gay' apostate Matthew Vines
Posted on 06/29/2014 7:08:09 PM PDT by NetAddicted
Can you be gay and Christian? Matthew Vines says you can and hes created a viral video and best-selling book defending his view. This Saturday on Up for Debate, Vines joins host Julie Roys to debate author and leading evangelical apologist, Dr. Michael Brown. Is gay monogamy an option for Christians? Is it unloving to reject gay marriage?
Watch as BarbWire contributor Dr. Michael Brown debates self-described gay evangelical Matthew Vines, one of Americas leading false teachers of gay liberation theology. The question (as if there were one) is whether God blesses sodomy-based gay relationships.
In this spectacular Moody Radio debate, presented on both audio and video, Dr. Brown summarily, though lovingly, dismantles the apostate arguments of a clearly frustrated and grossly overmatched Vines.
The ultimate question is whether we will interpret our sexuality through the lens of the Scriptures or whether we will interpret the Scriptures through the lens of our sexuality. See more at: http://www.onenewsnow.com/perspectives/michael-brown/2014/06/07/kirsten-powers-gets-it-dangerously-wrong-on-the-bible-and-homosexuality#sthash.S9FBW5yo.dpuf The ultimate question, asks Dr. Brown, is whether we will interpret our sexuality through the lens of the Scriptures or whether we will interpret the Scriptures through the lens of our sexuality. The answer, of course, is in the question.
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.
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there is no scripture which encourages homo behavior. When ever marriage is mentioned it is man/woman. Even tho polygamy is in the bible, it is not as God ordained instead it is something Jews appropiated from pagans surrounding them.
Unfortunate that so many Christians are easily swayed by apostates. A guess as a reason why is they are sinning and want to continue in it.
The Bible is enough of an “expert” for me—
Thus said the LORD:
Sodom and Gomorrah, Genesis 18:20-19:22 [from which we get our word “sodomy.”
The Law, Leviticus 18:22; 20:13
The New Testament, Romans 1:26-32; 1 Corinthians 6:9
That’s a big assumption what these people are who reject God’s teaching and lead others astray.
God is judging America by removing the presence of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit leads to conviction of sin and repentance.
Only when people are convicted of their sin can they repent.
Pray for them and for us all who live in this declining nation.
You are using the word “Christian” rather loosely.
True Christians on the contrary are NOT easily swayed by apostates.
True Christians have repented for the forgiveness of their sins and believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, who paid the penalty for the sins of the world, as the Bible says, both in the Old Testament and the New Testament.
You must be born again in order to enter the kingdom of God.
Read John, Chapter 3.
As long as believers in Christ are on this earth, the Holy Spirit will be here, because the Holy Spirit indwells believers permanently since their being “delivered from the domain of darkness and transferred to the kingdom of His beloved Son, in whome they have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Colossians 1:13-14
A person, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of his/her salvation and having also believed, was sealed in Christ with the Holy Spirit of promise, who was given as a pledge of his/her inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory. Ephesians 1:13-14
I don’t what the Bible says about it, but it’s easy enough to know that homosexuality is not normal. This has been known for 20,000+ years and ?10,000,000,000? people ago.
It’s not normal for a member of any species to behave in such a manner that would cause the entire species to go extinct if the behavior was widespread.
This is true. But there were in America’s past decades where ‘great awakenings’ took place. They took place with an admission of sin and repentance.
What of a nation that doesn’t believe sin exists?
America is in decline and will get worse. Soon churches will be shut down by the IRS (lose tax exempt status) if they are unwilling to perform sodomite marriages. Christians can lose their businesses for not baking cakes for these anti-Christ unions.
God is removing his Spirit from the world and will do some completely after the Rapture, which comes closer every day.
The Whore of Babylon is currently rising (ISIS).
Matthew 24:24 - For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Just curious. What does the bible say about divorcees, since half of the US Christians are divorcees.
It’s black and white. You can be a homosexual and still be a Christian. However, you can’t condone PRACTICING it as not a sin and still be a Christian.
I believe there are celibate homosexual Christians.
IF IT WERE POSSIBLE.
PLUS, it is talking about Israel during the time of the end.
I guess the headline writer stopped short of saying Brown ripped Vines a new one...
It has been very troubling to see so many of the Christian artists (musicians) come out as gay. They HAVE to know what they are doing and how it affects the Christian youth.
I pray that they, themselves, are just deceived and will come to their senses, but in the meantime, it behooves parents to be up on everything and everyone their kids listen to.
God says in His Word that when Jesus Christ returns to this earth, He is going to judge ALL nations, including Israel.
Salvation is on an individual basis, not on a national basis. Therefore, whoever is truly repentant and believes in Jesus for the forgiveness of his sins is born again, indwelt and sealed by the Holy Spirit. He has died to sin, his sins were buried with Christ, and he has been raised up to walk in newness of life. Read Ephesians 2:1-10.
Whether it was during an “awakening,” or any other time the above is true.
Yes, I certainly agree that American is in decline and that it will get worse. We are reaping what we have sowed.
The Holy Spirit is removed when the church, in whom He dwells, is removed.
Vines is a lightweight in the ring with Dr. Brown.
I dont what the Bible says about it, but its easy enough to know that homosexuality is not normal. This has been known for 20,000+ years and ?10,000,000,000? people ago.
Its not normal for a member of any species to behave in such a manner that would cause the entire species to go extinct if the behavior was widespread.
So true. If not for modern medicine and condoms, the entire species would have died of AIDS or something similar if it was normal behavior.
God has said it is an abomination before Him.
He has commanded His people not to do it. That means they have a choice. Many have come out of the homosexual lifestyle after repenting from it and receiving God’s forgiveness through Christ.
Michael Vines has fallen into the trap of the deceived, wanting Scripture to be redefined by his own sexual proclivity. He is not open to Biblical interpretation, but instead, trying to set up a straw man argument that he feels no one can deny.
Living in holiness means keeping the uses of sexual function for what God planned them to be.
Great compassion should be extended to all in the throes of sexual temptations. The situation could be compared to that of an electrical junction box where some of the wiring insulation is missing. You are going to get short circuits, and possibly great damage as well as malfunction. But the cure is to call in the electrician to fix it, not marveling at the spritzensparken and letting it melt down.