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Dem on Hobby Lobby Case: 'No One Has the Right to Discriminate Against a Woman'
CNS News ^ | 6/30/2014 | Susan Jones

Posted on 06/30/2014 3:57:58 AM PDT by markomalley

The U.S. Supreme Court is expected to announce a critical decision on religious freedom Monday: Can a private company be forced, under Obamacare, to provide contraception and abortifacients to its workers, in violation of the owners' deeply held relgious beliefs?

"The government will not violate anyone's religious beliefs, but no one has the right to discriminate against a woman because of her own beliefs. And I believe that the Supreme Court will find that no business...should be allowed to discriminate against women," Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.) told "Fox News Sunday."

What about the owner's right to religious freedom? host Chris Wallace asked Becerra.

"The owner has a right to his or her religious beliefs," Becerra conceded, "but that doesn't mean you get to discriminate against women if women have different beliefs than what the owner has, and the woman wants to exercise her rights under the Constitution."

Appearing with Becerra, Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said he believes the health care law -- "as interpreted by the president, violates the First Amendment of the Constitution, and I'm hoping the court will uphold the rights of individuals for their expression of their religious freedoms."

Invoking the authority of the Affordable Care Act, the U.S. Health and Human Services Department issued a regulation requiring all employers to provide birth-control coverage as part of preventive services in their health-insurance plans, or else pay a fine. But the owners of Hobby Lobby and Conestoga say the government is compelling them to violate their religious beliefs as Christian business owners.

A key question for the justices is whether a for-profit business has religious rights under federal law or the Constitution.

The Family Research Council, in a friend of the court brief, argued that Catholic teaching sees no difference between an individual’s private and commercial activity; both are considered governed by one’s religion.

But Democrats, in their amicus brief, argued that when they passed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993, they did not intend it to apply to for-profit corporations.

Other have argued that Obamacare's contraception does not violate the free exercise of religion, because it doesn’t require Christian business owners to take contraception themselves if they have religious objections.

During oral arguments before the Supreme Court in March, liberal Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan questioned whether Hobby Lobby could simply choose not to offer health insurance at all and pay the tax instead.

But Justice John Roberts said the owners have expressed a "religious commitment" to provide health care for their employees.


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1 posted on 06/30/2014 3:57:58 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Or a unborn baby! ! ! ! !


2 posted on 06/30/2014 4:00:05 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Why would ANYBODY want to be President after the mess ZERO is leaving?)
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To: markomalley

They’re not discriminating against a woman; they’re just saying the government doesn’t have the right to force taxpayers to pay for their birth control so they can have sex free of consequences.


3 posted on 06/30/2014 4:00:55 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: markomalley

Democrats have a WAR on UNBORN BABIES!!!!


4 posted on 06/30/2014 4:02:30 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: jsanders2001

If the court rules against Obama today its going to send him the rest of the way over the edge.


5 posted on 06/30/2014 4:03:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Ann Archy

If only they were illegal then they would have the “spark of divinity” in them.


6 posted on 06/30/2014 4:04:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: markomalley

Where in the Constitution or Bill of Rights does it state that everyone has a right to birth control. Keeping your jeans and panties on works just as well. If you want to argue for men’s rights, shouldn’t we get condoms and Viagra?


7 posted on 06/30/2014 4:06:14 AM PDT by RouxStir (No peein' allowed in the gene pool.)
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To: markomalley

Another article that starts out with a false perception of what this case is. Hobby Lobby does pay for contraception in their health plans. What they are objecting to is paying for the morning after pills that could terminate post-conception.


8 posted on 06/30/2014 4:07:42 AM PDT by IamConservative (If fighting fire with fire is a good idea, why do the pros use water?)
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To: markomalley

They’re not discriminating against “a woman.” They don’t want to pay for birth control pills for men, either.


9 posted on 06/30/2014 4:08:36 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I don't feel obligated to provide you with a non-boring gun.)
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To: cripplecreek

I just saw that clip......Pelosi is CERTIFIABLY INSANE!!!!


10 posted on 06/30/2014 4:09:47 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: jsanders2001
...they’re just saying the government doesn’t have the right to force taxpayers to pay for their birth control ...

It's not even that - they're just objecting to two of the dozens of contraceptives that they _will_ provide.

All this over 2 of 26 contraceptives? The objections are over the 2 that allow conception then abort the baby. So I think there is more to this than meets the eye.

Why would they fight this so hard if they don't really lose anything?

11 posted on 06/30/2014 4:10:09 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: markomalley

You can only discriminate against Christians!


12 posted on 06/30/2014 4:10:09 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: Principled

1. Just to jerk people’s chain.
2. To establish that employers have the obligation to provide coverage for abortion.


13 posted on 06/30/2014 4:11:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I don't feel obligated to provide you with a non-boring gun.)
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To: markomalley

Bacerra is mouthing Dem. talking points trying to steer the argument towards the so called “war on women”. This case has nothing to do with the right of women to choose. It is all about forcing company’s to offer certain kinds of contraceptives that it has religeous objections to. Women’s rights are not interefered with in this case. They still have their right to choose. The case is all about who pays.


14 posted on 06/30/2014 4:13:17 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: markomalley

What an idiot. No one is stopping anyone from buying anything.
I should not be forced to buy anything for anyone else if that violates my Freedom to practice my faith.


15 posted on 06/30/2014 4:14:50 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Ann Archy

“Democrats have a WAR on UNBORN BABIES!!!!”

India (the largest democracy in the world) had lax abortion controls until it became evident that women were killing female children; now they restrict abortion to prevent that. The response has been either doctors collaborating with parents (telling them the gender without officially “telling” them), or women forced to give birth to girls simply abandon them along the side of the road (where they die).

Thirty years ago in grammar school my class had a 3:2 boys to girls ratio; today my sons have similar imbalances in their classes. Abortion will be restricted when a pattern becomes clear; in the meantime, some of us guys will simply have to marry imported women...


16 posted on 06/30/2014 4:15:52 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: RedMDer

“I should not be forced to buy anything for anyone else if that violates my Freedom to practice my faith.’

How about “I should not be forced to buy anything for anyone else if that violates my Freedom”. Freedom is freedom. Once you start dividing it you diminish it. I hate this notion that you get to be free only if it violates your religious beliefs. Won’t work in the end. I am a Christian.


17 posted on 06/30/2014 4:19:25 AM PDT by all the best
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To: markomalley

No communist has a right to invade our land, defile our culture and breath our free air.


18 posted on 06/30/2014 4:25:35 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: markomalley

I’m a woman and I don’t understand how refusing to cover three or four of the multitude of birth control options available is discriminating against me.


19 posted on 06/30/2014 4:32:55 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: markomalley

It is terribly important to the Left that we all have blood on our hands. I don’t know why that is, but they are insisting.


20 posted on 06/30/2014 4:35:02 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: markomalley

DemonicRats and RINOS are complicit in the genocidal murder of 55 million unborn children in the U.S., which has given aid and comfort to the enemy. Justice requires that, for a start, the leaders of political, judicial, medical, business, media, and other pro-abortion advocacy organizations be indicted, tried, convicted, and sentenced for their crimes against humanity.


21 posted on 06/30/2014 4:44:19 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: markomalley

I watched Bacerra on Fox’s Sunday morning talk show. This guy is a complete puke and a skid mark on the highway of humanity. It was evident that he is devoid of even an ounce of integrity and although I have no training in the psychological sciences, I’m sure what I was seeing is a mental illness.


22 posted on 06/30/2014 4:44:46 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: markomalley

no woman has a right to insist society compensate for her own irresponsibility. No woman has the right to irresponsibility

A woman that does is a drag on society and can be destroyed


23 posted on 06/30/2014 4:45:37 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: kearnyirish2; All

“Thirty years ago in grammar school my class had a 3:2 boys to girls ratio; today my sons have similar imbalances in their classes. Abortion will be restricted when a pattern becomes clear; in the meantime, some of us guys will simply have to marry imported women...”

Maybe the war on unborn women is to promote an “alternative” lifestyle....(ugh).


24 posted on 06/30/2014 4:49:30 AM PDT by PenguinM
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To: DoodleDawg
I’m a woman and I don’t understand how refusing to cover three or four of the multitude of birth control options available is discriminating against me.

Pre-Obamacare, not all private health insurance policies covered the drugs in question. It seems to me that this is more about forcing the state's orders down our collective throat than it is about discrimination of any sort.

Also, I'll bet some prominent Democrats are invested in the pharma companies that make these specific drugs.

25 posted on 06/30/2014 4:49:47 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: markomalley

I may have missed it, but no one seems to get the irony here. Or is it hypocrisy? Actually, I think it’s both at the same time.

To wit...if you are a Christian woman who owns a business, and are forced to buy birth control for your employees...YOU are being discriminated against...both as a Christian AND as a woman.

I hate liberals. I hate stupidity. I hate liars.

With Obama, you get all three at once.


26 posted on 06/30/2014 4:51:26 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: markomalley
A key question for the justices is whether a for-profit business has religious rights under federal law or the Constitution.

Seriously??

So if you engage in a business for evil profit you negate your constitutional rights??

27 posted on 06/30/2014 4:54:00 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: markomalley

When did Women lose their God given right to freedom and liberty??
Why are Women beholden to a controlling Master (Government) which dispenses food and condoms to those Women who vote Progressive, and do not get uppity and agitate for more rations?

What about the Man in her life. Is the Women not an equal in their relationship?? Why can’t they pay for their own condoms?
What happened to personal responsibility?


28 posted on 06/30/2014 4:55:09 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: markomalley

There is no religion other than Marxism in America.

Pray America wakes up


29 posted on 06/30/2014 5:13:21 AM PDT by bray (Palin/Putin 2016)
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To: markomalley

I fully expect Roberts to again betray America and the COnstitution. He is damaged goods. Once compromised, subsequent betrayal become easier for the weak-minded.


30 posted on 06/30/2014 5:14:52 AM PDT by montag813
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To: markomalley

but can a government discriminate against a Christian. To be decided today.


31 posted on 06/30/2014 5:21:30 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: markomalley

No one has a right to discriminate against my religious convictions.

If, among those convictions, contraception and abortion are anathema, then just leave me alone. I am not preventing any women from doing whatever they want, I am just refusing to PARTICIPATE or ASSOCIATE myself with their behavior.

The DemonRATS and their collectivist-statist cabal are not fooling me with their desconstructionist rhetoric.


32 posted on 06/30/2014 5:22:56 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: markomalley

I’m sorry, what “constitutional right” is the hypothetical woman exercising? I don’t recall the amendment that vouchsafes a right to birth control. Can someone help me out on that?

On the other hand, I DO recall some mention in the Bill of Rights about the free exercise of religion. It was one of the early ones ... maybe even the First ...


33 posted on 06/30/2014 5:32:20 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: markomalley
But...but...wait...didn't Pelosi just lecture us over this past weekend about how EVERY child has a "divine spark of humanity"?

Oh, she only meant Guatemalan children sneaking across the border for free stuff.

34 posted on 06/30/2014 5:35:26 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: Charles Martel
Pre-Obamacare, not all private health insurance policies covered the drugs in question.

Pre-Obamacare I didn't get my birth control for free. I don't understand that one either.

35 posted on 06/30/2014 5:51:26 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: markomalley
If this was my private company and the court went against me in my beliefs my path would be set. First start closing stores and send the merchandise to the last store to be open and sell it all off. If I owned any store that included the land sell it also. Last take my family and money out of the country and never look back. As I walked out the door I would knock the dust off my shoes. (this is a curse)
36 posted on 06/30/2014 6:08:12 AM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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To: markomalley

Some one show me in the Constitution where it says I have to provide any employee any contraception services or ANY HEALTH CARE of any kind.


37 posted on 06/30/2014 6:10:38 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: cripplecreek

> If the court rules against Obama today its going to send him the rest of the way over the edge.

I almost expect the Satanists to win given the current path we’re on


38 posted on 06/30/2014 6:14:46 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: all the best

> How about “I should not be forced to buy anything for anyone else if that violates my Freedom”. Freedom is freedom. Once you start dividing it you diminish it. I hate this notion that you get to be free only if it violates your religious beliefs. Won’t work in the end. I am a Christian.

I wonder how the DemonRats would feel if I forced them to pay some of my bills against their will?


39 posted on 06/30/2014 6:19:10 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: markomalley

“No, we won’t pay for you to kill an unborn baby”
is

“discriminating against women”?

Only in the mind of a despicable rat of corrupted mind.


40 posted on 06/30/2014 6:21:02 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: markomalley
The best solution of all is just to harvest the eggs of every woman when they reach the age of 12 and store the eggs cryogenicaly for 30 years. No more birth control, no more baby killing, no more unwanted children.
41 posted on 06/30/2014 7:15:11 AM PDT by Will we know the moment (e are no longer a republi)
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To: IamConservative

Yes, that is right, Hobby Lobby doesn’t object to birth control pill, they object to providing abortions of human embryos and they object to morning after pill


42 posted on 06/30/2014 7:35:30 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: jsanders2001
I almost expect the Satanists to win given the current path we’re on.

They will, apparently, for a time. This is foretold. What is equally foretold is their crushing defeat, at the hands of the G-d they have chosen to mock.

I've read the book, and know how it ends. While I take no pleasure in what is occurring to date, and even less in that which will occur a bit later on, I have been given enough insight to understand the necessity of it all, no matter how horrific it becomes...

the infowarrior

43 posted on 06/30/2014 3:44:17 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Principled
Why would they fight this so hard if they don't really lose anything?

It is about pure naked power and making the evil, devout Christian conservatives knuckle under to the almighty progressives...
44 posted on 06/30/2014 3:48:10 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: PenguinM

“Maybe the war on unborn women is to promote an “alternative” lifestyle....(ugh).”

That isn’t going to happen; instead, the males will just share mates. This is how females have multiple bastards with different fathers...


45 posted on 06/30/2014 7:36:07 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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