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Conservatives, Losing One Battle Doesn’t Mean We Have Lost The War
Townhall.com ^ | June 30, 2014 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 06/30/2014 4:14:28 AM PDT by Kaslin

I was furious that Thad Cochran slimed his way to victory, but every time we hardcore conservatives lose a battle, it seems a contingent of bitter-enders starts up about how the Republicans and Democrats are exactly the same, and how they’ll refuse to vote in the general, and how they’ll take their collective ball and go home.

That’s crazy talk. We can get even with the GOP establishment later; we need to beat the Democrats first.

Now, many of my good friends disagree with me here, but I respect them enough to say what I think. And I think that when we focus on the establishment’s antics in Mississippi instead of focusing on November, we make Barack Obama happier than if he got to play 18 holes with the ghost of Karl Marx.

Let us assume that Thad Cochran didn’t play fair. Now let me assume the role of your father:

Life is not fair.

Yeah, I was shocked – shocked! – that our opponents refused to commit ritual suicide in order to allow our chosen candidate to waltz into the nomination that, a couple weeks ago, was his for his taking. Was anyone expecting the establishment to go quietly, to rollover, to not use every tool at its disposal to hold on to power?

We’re conservatives. We’re not supposed to make excuses, but I’m sure hearing a lot in the wake of Cochran’s win.

Yeah, his win. News Flash: Thad Cochran got more votes than our guy. That means our guy failed to perform the most important function of a conservative politician.

He failed to win.

Hell, he couldn’t handle the GOP establishment calling him a racist. Why does anyone imagine he could have handled the Democrats doing it in November? They’re the pros!

Yeah, Cochran dared to appeal to Democrats…who voted for him. It would be nice to have other Republicans embrace this innovative concept.

Am I happy about the slanders Cochran’s buddies spread, or about the way the K Street crew spent zillions to keep Thad awake and away from the livestock long enough to get nominated?

No, but that ship has sailed and sank. Winners leverage their assets into victory.

Am I suggesting that we forgo our vengeance? Never! I’m all about payback. But getting even with these K Street creeps can wait. I say defeat the Democrats first. Instead of choosing to fight two opponents at once, we can deal with these establishment tools later from a position of strength when Reid’s reign is just a bad memory.

I’m getting sick of this quitter talk about how we can’t possibly win, about how everyone’s against us, about how this struggle being hard is some sort of cosmic injustice perpetrated upon us by mysterious forces beyond our control.

George Washington and his men ate their damn shoes as they shivered in Valley Forge. That’s adversity, not having to somehow find the strength to carry on after nominating a Republican who is sure to win in November and has a mere 88 percent conservative rating.

This isn’t about our feelings. This isn’t about our “principles” either. There is no principle that compels us to allow Barack Obama to retain a Senate majority that absolutely will confirm a Supreme Court justice who will absolutely vote to:



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1 posted on 06/30/2014 4:14:28 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
We can get even with the GOP establishment later; we need to beat the Democrats first.

How many times have we heard THAT before?

Time for the GOP-E to reap the whirlwind it has sown!

2 posted on 06/30/2014 4:16:17 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Kaslin

We will fight against the GOP when it is the same as the
DNC.

We will fight against the GOP when it is comprised
of the proObama Team Romney.

We will fight against the GOP when it is comprised
of the conservative-backstabbing Team Romney.


3 posted on 06/30/2014 4:21:41 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Kaslin

This article presupposes that Cochran won but did not cheat. I think he cheated twice - once in the primary to prevent McDaniel from getting over 50% and once in the runoff by getting illegal voters to the polls and by not counting absentees. Cochran’s mom is the one in charge of the biggest Dem county.

Nevertheless, I prefer a GOP Senate. Cochran and other cheaters will get their due - but I’m not going to cut off my nose to spite my face.


4 posted on 06/30/2014 4:22:25 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: Timber Rattler
Look how far we’ve come. Ted Cruz. Rand Paul. Mike Lee.

Which of these three is unlike the others?

Hint:

Rand Paul to appear in Nashville with Lamar

5 posted on 06/30/2014 4:24:09 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Kaslin

Time someone said those things. Thank You.

All too often it seems there are those more interested in destroying the Republican party than they are in achieving conservative values.


6 posted on 06/30/2014 4:24:10 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: Kaslin
Conservatives, Losing One Battle Doesn’t Mean We Have Lost The War

If I recall, we lost most of the battles during the revolutionary war.

Still won.

7 posted on 06/30/2014 4:24:18 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Kaslin

If I lived in Mississippi I could not vote for the “animal lover” Cochran.


8 posted on 06/30/2014 4:24:48 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Caipirabob

“If I recall, we lost most of the battles during the revolutionary war. Still won.”

We haven’t won a battle in decades, and I don’t see French or Spanish sails on the horizon. Conservatives have lost the culture war; now it is about preserving our way of life despite the larger culture (or more appropriately, cultural vacuum).


9 posted on 06/30/2014 4:26:59 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Kaslin

Same old crap. Fortunately a lot more conservatives are waking up to this little game that keeps liberals in office. It’s LIBERALS vs CONSERVATIVES. If you want to win the future, spend your time and money on conservatives, not liberals of any party.


10 posted on 06/30/2014 4:29:48 AM PDT by BinaryBoy ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: Kaslin

Professional politicians don’t care one bit about you or me.

They just need us to be dumb enough to vote for them.

And if that won’t work, they need others to be dumb enough to vote for them.

I think this showed that more than anything else.


11 posted on 06/30/2014 4:31:11 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Kaslin
Schlicter is one of those "we'll win with a non-conservative first and THEN become conservative later" type of RINO's.

Those of us who have been around the block more than once know that "later" never comes.

12 posted on 06/30/2014 4:32:27 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Kaslin

The alternative to not fighting is capitulation and submission...I’m not ready for that alternative.


13 posted on 06/30/2014 4:32:52 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kaslin

Report from Charles Johnson indicates that Cochran will be filing a legal challenge in court today. Don’t we need to determine if laws were broken?


14 posted on 06/30/2014 4:34:25 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Kaslin
Conservatives only lose this outrage if Cochran stays in the US Senate. I hope there are lawsuits and the nomination goes to McDaniels. If not, Cochran should be defeated. That's what sends a message to the disgusting RINO ptb that say "accept this behavior and move on".

I've expressed this thought many times. I don't want a majority in the US Senate with the likes of McCain, Cochran, Murkowski, Ayotte, Flake, Collins etc etc setting the tone. They scare me.

15 posted on 06/30/2014 4:35:06 AM PDT by grania
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To: kearnyirish2

We haven’t won a battle in “decades”? What is your definition of battle, because in the case of this article it was a single election. Conservatives have won many battles in the last 2 decades, in fact the desperation in this particular battle was gratifying, even though it was a loss.


16 posted on 06/30/2014 4:38:47 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: DugwayDuke
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Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, Mitt Romney and Karl Rove have more damage to conservative America (over the last four years) than Harry Reid.


So ... now ... who's the enemy ?


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17 posted on 06/30/2014 4:41:51 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: fwdude
Those of us who have been around the block more than once know that "later" never comes.

LOL! that's the part that gets me, too. They want to act like this is a rare or new occurrence, but some of us have been watching Republicans crap on their base for decades now.

18 posted on 06/30/2014 4:43:40 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Kaslin

We shall DEFEAT Cockran in November, so that this STUNT is NEVER pulled on us again.

That is how to deal with it.


19 posted on 06/30/2014 4:45:10 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Kaslin

This author can say what he likes but I think any conservative who votes for Cochran in the general election is a fool. I’d be more than happy to lose the State to a “D” just to send this much needed lesson to the GOPe. Ditch the base and you lose.


20 posted on 06/30/2014 4:50:01 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Kaslin

I don’t think the battle is over yet - McDaniel has already found 1500 invalid votes from ONE county (RATs that voted in the prior election).


21 posted on 06/30/2014 4:55:10 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Decriminalize Tax Evasion)
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To: Kaslin

Ummm... No.

Schlicter recommends doing the exact same thing in we have done for a long time in the hopes it has a different outcome.

He is wrong.


22 posted on 06/30/2014 5:00:26 AM PDT by MortMan (Fossil feces is not merely prehistoric toilet humor.)
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To: Principled
Kind of an ironic statement, given your screen name.
23 posted on 06/30/2014 5:01:57 AM PDT by MortMan (Fossil feces is not merely prehistoric toilet humor.)
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To: MortMan

I disagree. IMO it’s the right call. There is no principle to cut off your nose to spite your face. That’s childish and stupid.


24 posted on 06/30/2014 5:06:20 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: Kaslin

SCREW this guy and the book he is peddling.

This Carolinian is done with being labeled a racist and troglodyte by gopE.

Done with being lectured by our own freaking Presidential candidate that we need not be fearful of the other candidate who is now the President that said loser candidate is currently railing against. Jackass. Scared now Juan?

Sorry Thom.....You’re on your own, and here is a preemptive FU for you too.


25 posted on 06/30/2014 5:09:40 AM PDT by scfirewall
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To: Principled

Obviously, there is no principle to work within the boundaries of the rulebook, either.

Cochran ran to the dems, acted like a dem...

So they should be the force to elect him, right?

That would be the “principled” thing to do.


26 posted on 06/30/2014 5:12:13 AM PDT by MortMan (Fossil feces is not merely prehistoric toilet humor.)
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To: fwdude
Schlicter is one of those "we'll win with a non-conservative first and THEN become conservative later" type of RINO's.

The GOP Promise


"I will gladly become conservative Tuesday for a vote from you today"


27 posted on 06/30/2014 5:17:09 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Principled
If 10% of the Republicans in Mississippi vote for the democrat Cockroach is toast. Let us have a brief review of what republicans have done for us lately.

The patriot act with the department of Reichland security and the TSA. A huge medicare expansion. A light bulb ban. Shall I go on or do you get it?

Go ahead and vote for a progressive republican. I will not.

28 posted on 06/30/2014 5:25:38 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

That is why I support an Article V state convention to propose amendments. We are at the cusp of open tyranny, and history proves that federal elections alone will not stop the march of oppression.


29 posted on 06/30/2014 5:26:59 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: Kaslin; WKB; paintriot; Lil Flower; Malichi; WXRGina; duffee; onyx; DrewsMum; Tupelo; mstar; ...

MS #3 ping


30 posted on 06/30/2014 5:28:06 AM PDT by WKB
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To: Jacquerie

The problem is the Neoeuropa of the Northeast.

Those states must be purged from America to eliminate the principle cancer. Perhaps chemo or radiation can be used to eliminate the tumors in California


31 posted on 06/30/2014 5:29:48 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Kaslin

And screw the four decade battle plan, you want a battle plan?

Here is THE battle plan.

1) No more open primaries.

Offer voters a clear conservative choice instead of moderate mush.

Ted Cruz will never be our Presidential Candidate, particularly if Hillary is anointed early, as long as we Republicans allow cross over voting.


32 posted on 06/30/2014 5:30:15 AM PDT by scfirewall
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To: Principled

Cochran is living in open adultery with a woman who isn’t his wife.

I can not vote for such a man.

Even Bill Clinton didn’t behave thusly.


33 posted on 06/30/2014 5:30:20 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Patton@Bastogne

“Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, Mitt Romney and Karl Rove have more damage to conservative America (over the last four years) than Harry Reid.”

Horsehockey.


34 posted on 06/30/2014 5:30:37 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: Kaslin
I was furious that Thad Cochran slimed his way to victory, but every time we hardcore conservatives lose a battle, it seems a contingent of bitter-enders starts up about how the Republicans and Democrats are exactly the same, and how they’ll refuse to vote in the general, and how they’ll take their collective ball and go home.

This is very true. It's amusing how the same people that talk about rugged individualism wet their pants, soil thier BVDs, announce that it's all over, and curl up in the fetal position after almost every setback.

Liberals know how to win. Conservatives don't.

Time to get on the ball.

35 posted on 06/30/2014 5:30:43 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Kaslin

When, after “we” take the Senate? But the Presidential elecrion will be coming up, and the GOP will as usual foist a not-conservative on us. Then can we refuse to vote for him? But “we” must take the White House, after that we can fight the liberals in our midst.


36 posted on 06/30/2014 5:34:33 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: DugwayDuke

We have to have conservatives firat, to pass a conservative agenda. Thad Cochran told the black democrat voters to who, he pandered, that they could blame the Tea Party for obstructing Obama. The rest of that sentence is “vote for me, I won’t”.


37 posted on 06/30/2014 5:36:11 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: RedMDer

We’re not. He’s getting message after message that he better hope he gets the same rat votes in the GE that he paid for in the run-off, because he’s not getting those of conservatives.


38 posted on 06/30/2014 5:37:13 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: mrsmel

Next up will be the outright insults. Because that’s a great way to get someone to vote for you.


39 posted on 06/30/2014 5:38:15 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Ted Grant

Win what? Whichever side “wins”, as presently constituted, they’re both for amnesty. Cochran “blamed”conservatives, to the faces of democrat voters, for obstructing Obama.


40 posted on 06/30/2014 5:40:15 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Black Agnes

That’s already started, here on FR.


41 posted on 06/30/2014 5:40:43 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Principled
Vote for Thad Cochran, continue to get scuzzbag candidates like Thad Cochran.

To Hell with Thad Cochran and his socialist cronies in the GOP leadership! He won the primary runoff by appealing to the racism and greed of the urban Parasite Class ... let the urban Parasite Class vote for him. Or not. He does not represent the Productive Class or the Protective Class. He's worse than a democrat.

Thad Cochran delenda est.

42 posted on 06/30/2014 5:40:50 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: mrsmel

It’s all they have left, once they know they’ve lost the argument.


43 posted on 06/30/2014 5:42:10 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: mrsmel

I’ve already been called a Klukker for thinking $17T in debt was unsustainable.

I await their further insults...


44 posted on 06/30/2014 5:42:28 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: COBOL2Java; Black Agnes

Yea, remember the thread from the other night, when a couple of Cochran shills characterised our reaction as “hurt feelings”? They really do see this as a football game, only both sides play for the same team, just different jerseys.


45 posted on 06/30/2014 5:47:26 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: BinaryBoy

Yes same old crap. It’s not Republican vs Democrat, it is the aristocracy vs us. Wake up


46 posted on 06/30/2014 5:48:57 AM PDT by rocketmag
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To: mrsmel; wardaddy

My grandmother was involved in the civil rights movement. No way I’m voting for someone who calls me a Klukker for thinking $17T in debt is unsustainable.


47 posted on 06/30/2014 5:50:17 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: mrsmel

Win influence.


48 posted on 06/30/2014 5:53:46 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Ted Grant

The reason why conservatives don’t win is because instead of uniting like the left, they divide. Don’t blame the left, blame yourself


49 posted on 06/30/2014 5:54:05 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Black Agnes

Or someone who demonises hos own purported side (conservatives) for obstructing the enemy’s agenda. That’s what an opposition party is supposed to do, but what would Cochran and his ilk know about obsteucting the left’s agenda? And these are the people we simply “must” have take the Senate? So they can do just what the rats would do, and use our support to do it?


50 posted on 06/30/2014 5:54:45 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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