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Court: Public union can't make nonmembers pay fees
The Associated Press ^ | June 30, 2014

Posted on 06/30/2014 7:13:31 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Supreme Court says public sector unions can't collect fees from home health care workers who object to being affiliated with a union.

The justices on Monday said collecting the fees violates the First Amendment rights of workers who are not union members....

(Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: harrisvquinn; publicsectorunions; scotus; supremecourt; unions

1 posted on 06/30/2014 7:13:31 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes!


2 posted on 06/30/2014 7:15:00 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The Supreme Court says public sector unions can’t collect fees from home health care workers who object to being affiliated with a union. The justices on Monday said collecting the fees violates the First Amendment rights of workers who are not union members....”

So will the co criminals, Herrs Obozo and Holder ignore this like they ignore any law or court ruling that goes against their agenda or contributors?


3 posted on 06/30/2014 7:15:45 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo, the Sunni Won-Doer, will not divert $'s from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Very scary that four justices said yes they can.


4 posted on 06/30/2014 7:16:22 AM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: oh8eleven

Wonder how they voted?


5 posted on 06/30/2014 7:16:25 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Man, that cripples up union forced membership. I don’t see how long-term survival is possible now with the unions.


6 posted on 06/30/2014 7:16:26 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This represents the death knell to public sector unions, something that even Franklin Roosevelt could not stomach. The unholy alliance of unions and Democrat politicians has worked against good government, fiscal responsibility, and the will of the people. A good day.


7 posted on 06/30/2014 7:16:57 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: maggief; hoosiermama; Nachum

Happy ping


8 posted on 06/30/2014 7:18:52 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Wise latina fail.


9 posted on 06/30/2014 7:19:28 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What was the voting split?


10 posted on 06/30/2014 7:20:15 AM PDT by expat2
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

That is scary. I will be interested in reading the dissent; how anyone justice could think it’s ok to take money out of a Medicaid check for a disabled child and give it to the SEIU.


11 posted on 06/30/2014 7:20:28 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: pepsionice

It depends on how the decision is written. If it just applies narrowly to these home healthcare workers, then it will not be as widespread as you might think.


12 posted on 06/30/2014 7:20:31 AM PDT by kabar
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To: expat2

5-4.


13 posted on 06/30/2014 7:20:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the O-hole in chief child will ignore this order. And he will lambaste the Court. “Don’t doubt me on this.”


14 posted on 06/30/2014 7:20:49 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; BuckeyeTexan; 1010RD

Very good news. Abood was not overturned but this is a defeat to the union progressive plan.


15 posted on 06/30/2014 7:20:51 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Very scary that four justices said yes they can.

Yeah, but also interesting that lower courts all threw the case out. At least the Supremes listened, even if they were only 5-4.

16 posted on 06/30/2014 7:21:23 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: pepsionice

How does this affect states where the union can force you to join as a condition of employment?


17 posted on 06/30/2014 7:21:27 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FLAHS ALERT:

HOBBY LOBBY WINS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


18 posted on 06/30/2014 7:21:37 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does this mean that Rush Limbaugh can quit paying dues, or leave the union entirely?


19 posted on 06/30/2014 7:21:47 AM PDT by ansel12 (( Rand Paul---What a tragedy if America wouldn't have gotten to see Barack Obama as a leader.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great win I thought the SC would come through!! Even they were appalled by the thieving money grubbing union thugocracy


20 posted on 06/30/2014 7:22:53 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This will kick the public sector unions right in the nuts!

Yea USSC!


21 posted on 06/30/2014 7:23:28 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

5-4 is pathetic but I’ll take it!!!


22 posted on 06/30/2014 7:23:48 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; expat2; All

The four libs were the desenters.


23 posted on 06/30/2014 7:24:45 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought I heard on the radio that PART-TIME members COULD NOT be compelled, but FULL-TIME workers COULD. Did anyone else hear that?


24 posted on 06/30/2014 7:27:57 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: crosslink

YES!


25 posted on 06/30/2014 7:29:54 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Terrible false headline.

Only applies to certain “partial” public employees.
It’s a “partial” win, which is better than any loss though.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/11-681_j426.pdf


26 posted on 06/30/2014 7:31:31 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Lurking Libertarian; Perdogg; JDW11235; Clairity; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; ...

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

27 posted on 06/30/2014 7:33:57 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: pepsionice

The quicker they die off the better. A friendif mine is in a union. They got a new contract 15 months ago, the union has yet to actually provide their members with a copy. They keep blaming the printing company for a “printing error”


28 posted on 06/30/2014 7:40:14 AM PDT by matt04
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

SCOTUS ruled on the specific Illinois program at issue ... unions can still collect dues from other public workers.

This is NOT a real victory against public employee unions.


29 posted on 06/30/2014 7:46:48 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: lonevoice

Another win for the good guys.


30 posted on 06/30/2014 7:49:49 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

thank God.


31 posted on 06/30/2014 7:52:40 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So if the union negotiates a raise in their conract is the non-member exempt from the raise?


32 posted on 06/30/2014 7:54:43 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

No, I wouldn’t think so. In right-to-work states the union negotiates for all employees and non-members are not paid differently.


33 posted on 06/30/2014 7:57:13 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Obama Justice Department gets another loss as they had weighed in on the side of the public sector unions/state of Illinois. Solicitor General Verilli argued in an amicus curiae brief in 2012 that the USSC shouldn’t even hear the case.
http://www.justice.gov/osg/briefs/2012/2pet/6invit/2011-0681.pet.ami.inv.pdf


34 posted on 06/30/2014 8:05:00 AM PDT by tellw
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No, I wouldn’t think so. In right-to-work states the union negotiates for all employees and non-members are not paid differently.

Illinois is not a right-to-work state.

35 posted on 06/30/2014 8:12:15 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good news bump


36 posted on 06/30/2014 8:12:41 AM PDT by GOPJ (Why no outrage over IRS targeting? Same reason Pravda didn't make a stink about gulags.FREnterprise)
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To: matt04

Is it a union printing shop?


37 posted on 06/30/2014 8:23:13 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Yeah, but also interesting that lower courts all threw the case out.

That's the only way that a case gets heard by the Supreme Court. The are the Supreme "Appellate" Court.

38 posted on 06/30/2014 8:24:40 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: DoodleDawg
This from the very limited ruling to your point:

"What justifies the agency fee ... is the fact that the State compels the union to promote and protect the interests of nonmembers in “negotiating and admin- istering a collective-bargaining agreement and representing the in- terests of employees in settling disputes and processing grievances.” Lehnert, supra, at 556. That rationale has little application here, where Illinois law requires that all PAs receive the same rate of pay and the union has no authority with respect to a PA’s grievances against a customer.

39 posted on 06/30/2014 8:28:27 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Pride in the USA

Hard to believe it was ever a question


40 posted on 06/30/2014 9:37:09 AM PDT by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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To: centurion316

“This represents the death knell to public sector unions...”

I wish you were correct, but the ruling does NOT. The ruling only applies to “home healthcare workers” with even more conditions. This is a very narrow ruling.


41 posted on 06/30/2014 9:46:05 AM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: SgtHooper

Most SCOTUS rulings are narrow, but they establish a precedent that later applies more broadly. The broader implication here is good for right to work laws, it’s good for those who are trying to roll back the power of public employee unions, and it’s good for freedom and liberty. Small steps are sometimes good things.


42 posted on 06/30/2014 9:56:04 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

I know the Supreme Court is an appellate court. But, often, the appeals are based on something that happened in the case... a faulty argument, or a procedural error, or some questionable evidence. This didn’t make it that far in the lower courts—”thrown out” to me means that it wasn’t considered at all.


43 posted on 06/30/2014 10:42:50 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I would assume so.


44 posted on 06/30/2014 11:51:41 AM PDT by matt04
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To: centurion316

Yes, it is a chink in the armor, and surely to drive libtards ballistic.


45 posted on 06/30/2014 1:05:21 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Sure makes you think about voting for senate rinos. One more lib on the SC spells doom.


46 posted on 06/30/2014 3:39:48 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So Awesome!

Not the kill-shot for public employee mafia, but a hell of a knee-capping!!


47 posted on 06/30/2014 5:48:18 PM PDT by CharleysPride (A accipitris volatu supra quinque vexillis)
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