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Navy SEAL contractor denied medical treatment by U.S. Embassy medical professionals
newsninja2012.com ^ | 6/30/14 | Jai

Posted on 06/30/2014 1:55:57 PM PDT by Nachum

Brandon Webb, a former U.S. Navy SEAL and now Editor-in-Chief of SOFREP.com, posted a sobering article today on the failures of the State Department in regards to our former military contractors working overseas. Brandon tells us the story of a CIA paramilitary and former Navy SEAL, Matthew Wojciechowski, who, while on TDY (temporary duty assignment) in ‎the Middle East, endured severe chest pains while on a mission. Instead of the medical professionals at the U.S. Embassy assisting him, they performed a stress test on him, took his vitals and sent him back to work. They denied him further treatment, leaving him with no other option but to receive care from the locals.

Matthew stated:

As a TDY (which means Temporary Duty Assignment) and not PCS (Permanent Duty Assignment) that employees of the CIA and State Department get, I am left to be treated at a local hospital, no matter how bad the care is. While at the hospital with my team, I finally get seen 10 hours later by a guy who appears to be on medication, who does not speak English, nor should be touching me at all, in my opinion. I get diagnosed with HEART BURN for the massive chest pain I was having – yup – and sent home – and not HOME LIKE USA HOME… home like you will be fine take heartburn medicine and give it a few days.

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KEYWORDS: contractor; defensecontractor; denied; emergencytreatment; healthcare; navy; navyseal; nocare; seal; usembassy

1 posted on 06/30/2014 1:55:57 PM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 06/30/2014 1:56:38 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

The Snake Dept. is supposed to provide 0bama care for US citizens overseas?


3 posted on 06/30/2014 2:00:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

“The Snake Dept.”

I like it. Gonna use it too.


4 posted on 06/30/2014 2:06:15 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

“former military contractors working overseas”? Are we supposed to provide them health care through the state dept? I don’t understand what the expectation was here.


5 posted on 06/30/2014 2:08:37 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Nachum

If he was working as a private contractor, shouldn’t his employer be responsible for medical care?


6 posted on 06/30/2014 2:11:33 PM PDT by grania
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To: Nachum

I learned a very valuable lesson in 1994 when I went to Bosnia on a White House fact finding mission. I was technically a contractor therefore not protected under the Laws of Land Warfare, not a combatant, and fell under the State Department for support since the U.S. military was not yet deployed.

In that situation, you are on your own and if you get into a gun fight or get sick, tough luck. When I got back, I decided that my days in a combat zone were over. The inability to defend myself or to be able to count on any assistance from the government that sent me there was enough to make that my last patrol.


7 posted on 06/30/2014 2:14:21 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

Wise choice.


8 posted on 06/30/2014 2:17:15 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

Not right but welcome to the world. This is the same thing we have been experiencing now for several years from our clients. For decades in the past contractors without a local large presence in expat locations were part of the host company medical, triage, and emergency evacuation process. No more. We have to charge them a higher rate to inefficiently provide services for our people and in so doing can’t compete with companies who do not do the same.


9 posted on 06/30/2014 2:18:32 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: grania

If he was working as a private contractor, shouldn’t his employer be responsible for medical care?....I’d bet (with good odds) most of the contractors are CIA or some such alphabet agency employees who have been granted time off from their military duties to do dirty work. Very much like the Flying Tigers over the Burma theater (who got military support)and VERY much like Air America who flew missions in Laos, Cambodia and other places and when these missions were cancelled they went back to the Air Force, Army or Navy and resumed their normal duties with promotions. Air America went places where the US Services wouldn’t or couldn’t go because the commanders didn’t want to be responsible for the death or destruction of military personnel or equipment.


10 posted on 06/30/2014 2:25:34 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver
I’d bet (with good odds) most of the contractors are CIA or some such alphabet agency employees who have been granted time off from their military duties to do dirty work.

You'd lose that bet.

11 posted on 06/30/2014 2:28:43 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

Prove it.


12 posted on 06/30/2014 2:32:11 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Nachum

It,s been a long time coming, but well deserved. Foggy bottom should be retired.


13 posted on 06/30/2014 2:35:54 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Nachum

Hippocratic Oath? Anyone?


14 posted on 06/30/2014 2:38:59 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Safetgiver

Don’t you read all the posts before you speak? Contractors are not active military. You could go search for the jobs yourself.

here is some news for you...
http://civiliancontractors.wordpress.com/category/state-department/

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/24/washington/24contractor.html?_r=0


15 posted on 06/30/2014 2:56:56 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

I’m sure you can post newspaper ads all day, but what I said is true before and is very likely today. Air America never answered ads, but they flew as civilians anyways. Until they got recalled to their respective services. Or maybe you believe this government, HMMMMM?


16 posted on 06/30/2014 3:07:39 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver

So why aren’t they given benefits?


17 posted on 06/30/2014 3:11:32 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

I didn’t read where they DID not get “benefits”. They were not taken care of. They would not be recognised as US troops, and the State Dept. wouldn’t have recognized them officially, them, any ways. Why weren’t the ambassador and three ‘Navy Seals” given any “benefits” in Benghazi? They MAY have, posthumously, but I doubt that, also.


18 posted on 06/30/2014 3:29:54 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver

And you would be wrong ....not the case.


19 posted on 06/30/2014 3:30:57 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: huldah1776

Matthew stated:

As a TDY (which means Temporary Duty Assignment) and not PCS (Permanent Duty Assignment) that employees of the CIA and State Department get, I am left to be treated at a local hospital, no matter how bad the care is. While at the hospital with my team, I finally get seen 10 hours later by a guy who appears to be on medication, who does not speak English, nor should be touching me at all, in my opinion. ....Do civilians get TDY or PCS? I don’t think so. You and the other joker above need to read before you emote.


20 posted on 06/30/2014 3:33:00 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: NEMDF

Yes. They are operating under contract with the State Dept and part of that contract is medical care.

Besides, if a US citizen arrives at a US Embassy and requests aide, they must see him for life-saving treatment.

Sound very much like the DoS screwed up.

I am appalled the Marines at the Embassy didn’t ensure the Mil Attache knew as the Mil Attache can call in the guns to get this guy care.


21 posted on 06/30/2014 3:33:14 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: centurion316

The contract is standard. . .you are operating under contract with the DoS and therefore are supposed to receive medical aide. . .you are, after all, helping the DoS. This is a standard Term and Condition of the IDIQ SS contract.

And yes, you are NOT covered by LOAC like soldiers are as you are a civilian and therefore can’t take up arms or engage in combat. . .you would them be an illegal combatant and subject to prosecution under local laws.


22 posted on 06/30/2014 3:35:57 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Nachum

State Department: Hillary Clinton, John Kerry and Barack Obama.

Need I say anything more?


23 posted on 06/30/2014 3:41:51 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Safetgiver

http://www.defensetravel.dod.mil/site/faqpcs.cfm#1


24 posted on 06/30/2014 3:51:51 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

And...?


25 posted on 06/30/2014 3:59:47 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: NEMDF

It’s a very gray area, with many particulars. “Contractors” may be actively guarding a senior State Dept or CIA official, they may have extensive military backgrounds, but when they get sick it’s “so sorry, beat it.”

OTOH, Blackwater and others have done helo rescues etc on their own dime of all kinds of folks, including locals, active duty U.S. soldiers and Marines, etc, that they never ever got a bit of credit for. Rescues including where US Army chopper pilots were refused permission to fly, leaving the trapped to be rescued by Blackwater, or nobody. And Blackwater (and others) did them.

Sure, they make a ton of money per diem, I get it. But remember Behghazi? The two guys we remember as the heroic SEALs who saved so many, and died, were just nasty mercenary paid gunslingers when seen from the other side of the prism.

But those rescues done by “mercenary” chopper pilots, flown when the U.S. military would NOT fly....they happened.

But when a “mercenary” (last year he was a heroic active duty SEAL, remember?) shows up at the embassy looking for a break....BEAT IT, BUM.


26 posted on 06/30/2014 4:00:53 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Safetgiver

You are making the assertion, I believe that the burden of proof is on you. Good luck.


27 posted on 06/30/2014 4:21:22 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Hulka

DOS contracts are not standard, at least not these days, although I was not operating under some DOS contract, just a MOA with DOS, DoD and the White House.


28 posted on 06/30/2014 4:23:18 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

Matthew stated:

As a TDY (which means Temporary Duty Assignment) and not PCS (Permanent Duty Assignment) that employees of the CIA and State Department get, I am left to be treated at a local hospital, no matter how bad the care is.....Checkmate. He states he was TDY. I don’t believe contractors would be TDY, because THEY ARE UNDER CONTRACT. US personnel by his own admission. Spin it some more, pal.


29 posted on 06/30/2014 5:37:43 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Paladin2

Snake Department... fits....


30 posted on 06/30/2014 7:21:57 PM PDT by GOPJ (Why no outrage over IRS targeting? Same reason Pravda didn't make a stink about gulags.FREnterprise)
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To: Sequoyah101
When I worked in Oman back in the seventies the local medical care was quite sub standard. Today it is very good.

If one of us got in medical trouble we would go to one of the doctors that Shell Oil had. They would be Dutch or English. As we were not Shell Oil employees we would pay cash, but we did get good care. I vividly remember an expat that had a car wreck. I picked him up and took him to them. They patched him up and took care of him no questions asked. I am sure they billed his company.

If someone was in critical condition the only answer was a medivac back to Europe. Oddly enough the UK was very good if you were a for pay patient.

When working in Nigeria a lot of workers carried medivac insurance to get us back home if we were in bad shape. If you were in bad shape and could not get medivac, you would probably die.

31 posted on 06/30/2014 10:13:29 PM PDT by cpdiii (=)
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To: centurion316

My son is a contractor in Afghanistan and under the Terms and Conditions of the agreement, health care coverage is provided by the USG. Additionally, I worked such contracts when I was in the Pentagon and the standard terms and conditions were, well, standard. To get out of those coverages required the company to decline.


32 posted on 07/01/2014 10:17:19 AM PDT by Hulka
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