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Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren Calls Opposition To Abortion A ‘Vague Moral Objection’
Daily Caller ^ | June 30, 2014 | Tristyn Bloom

Posted on 06/30/2014 6:40:45 PM PDT by lbryce

“Can’t believe we live in a world where we’d even consider letting big corps deny women access to basic care based on vague moral objections,” tweeted Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren Monday, reacting to the Supreme Court’s Hobby Lobby decision.

The 5-4 ruling held that requiring for-profit corporations to include contraception in their insurance coverage violates the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. The family of David Green, owners of the Hobby Lobby corporation, had sued the government for forcing them to provide possibly abortifacent medication (“morning-after pills”) to their employees. (RELATED: GOP Cheers Hobby Lobby Decision)

“It is HHS’s apparent belief that no insurance-coverage mandate would violate RFRA,” wrote Justice Samuel Alito in the majority opinion, “no matter how significantly it impinges on the religious liberties of employers—that would lead to intolerable consequences. Under HHS’s view, RFRA would permit the Government to require all employers to provide coverage for any medical procedure allowed by law in the jurisdiction in question—for in- stance, third-trimester abortions or assisted suicide. The owners of many closely held corporations could not in good conscience provide such coverage, and thus HHS would effectively exclude these people from full participation in the economic life of the Nation.

“The Supreme Court has headed in a very scary direction,” said Warren.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; vague
Wish her mother felt the same way.
1 posted on 06/30/2014 6:40:45 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Reminder: Hobby Lobby Provides Coverage for 16 Types of Contraception
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3174342/posts


2 posted on 06/30/2014 6:43:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: lbryce

It’s settled law.


3 posted on 06/30/2014 6:44:35 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: ClearCase_guy

the debate is over.


4 posted on 06/30/2014 6:45:33 PM PDT by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: lbryce

Which means she vaguely understands our argument. And is closed minded and doesn’t care to listen any further.


5 posted on 06/30/2014 6:46:14 PM PDT by DManA
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To: lbryce

Democrats are hopelessly IMMORAL.


6 posted on 06/30/2014 6:46:30 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: lbryce

Respect and value for life is a “vague moral obligation”?

A tribal pronouncement brought to you by a fake Indian who practiced law without a license while foreclosing on homes at the same time she was railing against banks for doing the same thing.

Fauxcahontas Liawatha Crockajawea could squeeze her head and fertilize a continent. This one’s going to haunt her if she decides to challenge Hillary.


7 posted on 06/30/2014 6:48:13 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: lbryce

Killing viable, unborn children is not “vague”. It is brutal and morally abject. Forcing people to pay for it is far worse.


8 posted on 06/30/2014 6:49:25 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: lbryce

Warren is vaguely Indian. Maybe. Okay, not really.


9 posted on 06/30/2014 6:49:36 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: lbryce

Human decency keeps me from saying what I really think about Elizabeth Warren.


10 posted on 06/30/2014 6:53:50 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: lbryce

Fauxcahontas in 2016. Dukakis II.


11 posted on 06/30/2014 6:53:53 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: lbryce

Having seen this phony up close and personal here in the Gay State Princess Liawatha’s starting to look like the Rat’s nominee in ‘16.A blank slate (kinda like Osama Obama and very much *unlike* the former Twelfth Lady).She’ll promise the world...and she’s a member of *two* victims groups (unlike both Osama *and* the former Twelfth Lady).


12 posted on 06/30/2014 6:53:53 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: lbryce

You have to admit, “Thou shall not kill” is pretty vague./s


13 posted on 06/30/2014 6:53:55 PM PDT by PTBAA
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To: lbryce

Too bad her mother didn’t visit a Planned Parenthood office when she conceived her in a teepee


14 posted on 06/30/2014 6:57:25 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: lbryce

Getting blended in yer mothers womb is midieval not VAGUE..

Depends on which side of the womb your blabbering from..

Even in the Inquisition they had no way of blending you..
Abortion is indeed an Inquisition...


15 posted on 06/30/2014 6:57:44 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: lbryce
“The Supreme Court has headed in a very scary direction,” said Warren.

You bet it is, but not how she means it. Because the long-term trend is and has been for the court to uphold big gov't and gut the Constitution. Coming soon will be a 5-4 decision for gay marriage.

These libs expect to win them all. 95% is not good enough for them.

16 posted on 06/30/2014 7:00:38 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: lbryce
I'm going to guess that she never actually met someone who disagrees with her point of view more than "vaguely".

What with being a Harvard professor and all. Where would she meet such a person?

17 posted on 06/30/2014 7:02:37 PM PDT by Salman
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To: lbryce

murdering your baby is “basic care”??????


18 posted on 06/30/2014 7:02:58 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: lbryce

When you support and defend the murder of millions of unborn female children, which side is engaged in a war on women again?


19 posted on 06/30/2014 7:03:33 PM PDT by MNnice
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To: lbryce

In the case of Elizabeth Warren one wonders how far she is willing to go in the destruction of her country’s long held values and morals in order to advance her own personal/political ambitions. She reminds me of the young Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov sitting in endless numbers of coffee shops - Starbuck’s? - discussing his ideas with other idealistic but irresponsible folks about the way mankind in its entirety should be ruled.

Sadly, this isn’t just a game being played, whether on a board or on a computer at home or interactively on the internet with others, but in reality, with the lives of real people in the balance. So, if Vladimir’s idea number 12, as expressed in his coffee shop discussion, results when put into practice by a real government holding authority of thousands and millions of people - real life! - in the death of a dozen or hundred or a thousand or tens of thousands, it’s just a game. It’s just an ideology being played out. So it is with Elizabeth Warren and those like her. Adolf played such games. So did Vladimir. So did Josef. So did Mao. And ordinary people payed the price, the high price, for their amusements.

Abortion is moral, as she presupposes. And her morality results in the death of thousands and tens of thousands. Life is cheapened; and governmental policy becomes ever more anti-human. But it becomes ever more anti-human in the cause of new rights for interest groups of ever more selfish people. And slowly the Brave New World is upon us; and there is no way to go back.


20 posted on 06/30/2014 7:04:52 PM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Senator_Blutarski
Human decency keeps me from saying what I really think about Elizabeth Warren.

I'm not nearly as decent as you are so I'll say it....absolute filth,very,very dangerous...every bit as dangerous (and filthy) as Osama Obama *and* the former Twelfth Lady.And very,*very* possibly more.

21 posted on 06/30/2014 7:05:27 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: lbryce

What you mean “vague moral objection”, Kemo Sabette?


22 posted on 06/30/2014 7:06:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: lbryce
“Can’t believe we live in a world where we’d even consider letting big corps deny women access to basic care based on vague moral objections

Wow. How about that not so vague book called, The Bible, which included the Ten Commandments, one of which is "Thou shall not kill"? That's pretty specific.
23 posted on 06/30/2014 7:09:01 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: lbryce

Pale face speaketh with forked tongue. Not one of us Kemosabe.


24 posted on 06/30/2014 7:09:53 PM PDT by tflabo (o)
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To: Belteshazzar
From where I sit she's willing to go as far as did Saul Alinsky...and Bill Ayers.
25 posted on 06/30/2014 7:09:59 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: lbryce

Elizabeth Warren and the Progressives prefer to describe the issue of abortifacients as a vague moral issue rather than a freedom of religion issue because they don’t believe in religion and they don’t understand the concerns.

The left saw the issue of forcing support of abortifacients on religious objectors as a wedge issue that could be used as a precedent to to get the government inside the church.


26 posted on 06/30/2014 7:14:18 PM PDT by Eva
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To: lbryce
Warren made a vacuous statement. Apparently, someone told her to sound vaguely vituperatory.

Let's do W next, Liz.

27 posted on 06/30/2014 7:16:36 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Belteshazzar
She reminds me of the young Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov sitting in endless numbers of coffee shops - Starbuck’s? - discussing his ideas with other idealistic but irresponsible folks

While the Smerdyakov/Stalins listening to her would be the ones to carry her ideas to their logical conclusion and purge her when the time came.

28 posted on 06/30/2014 7:18:57 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: lbryce
Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren Calls Opposition To Abortion A ‘Vague Moral Objection’

What does she call opposition to murder? How about opposition to rape? Robbery? Assault? Child abuse? Dognapping? Are those more concrete moral objections?

I've always wondered at the "moral" framework that can defend brutal murderers because human life is valuable but then casually abort an unborn child and go for lunch. Where do liberals draw their moral lines? And based on what? Whim? Fashion? Humidity?

29 posted on 06/30/2014 7:24:12 PM PDT by IronJack
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30 posted on 06/30/2014 7:37:49 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: lbryce

So sayeth Lie-a-watha.


31 posted on 06/30/2014 7:45:32 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: lbryce

vague moral objection??

seriously?

being against the murder of babies is “vague”??


32 posted on 06/30/2014 7:48:21 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: ScottinVA

Most liberals are frothing at the mouth for her to run. She is the next great hope.


33 posted on 06/30/2014 8:04:40 PM PDT by AmericanRobot
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To: lbryce

Listen, Liz. Your people used to scalp babies and roast them alive so don’t go lecturing us on morality.


34 posted on 06/30/2014 8:06:33 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: lbryce

so killing your baby is basic health care now?


35 posted on 06/30/2014 8:15:53 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: lbryce

Typical leftist strawman argument.


36 posted on 06/30/2014 8:16:13 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: IronJack
I've always wondered at the "moral" framework that can defend brutal murderers because human life is valuable but then casually abort an unborn child and go for lunch. Where do liberals draw their moral lines? And based on what? Whim? Fashion? Humidity?

Try a coin toss...

the infowarrior

37 posted on 06/30/2014 8:34:18 PM PDT by infowarrior
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vague moral objection

Vague? Not at all. She's just way too dense to comprehend the "baby killing is murder" connection. Her mother seemed to understand it just fine, however.


38 posted on 06/30/2014 8:54:12 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: lbryce
a vague moral objection...abortion is the murder of a unique human being - is that specific enough?......
39 posted on 06/30/2014 9:11:08 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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This, coming from a rep of a party that actually called an unborn child a “tumor.”
Ugh, lecture us on “morals,” Runs with Jackals.


40 posted on 06/30/2014 10:20:34 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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It’s certainly not as vague as her native american ancestry.


41 posted on 06/30/2014 10:35:51 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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Said the Vaguely Native American.


42 posted on 06/30/2014 10:36:56 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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“...letting big corps deny women access to basic care...”

Perhaps she doesn't understand the difference between “denying” and “paying for”?

43 posted on 06/30/2014 11:49:24 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: lbryce

From a vague pretend Indian.


44 posted on 06/30/2014 11:54:25 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Salvation

Exactly!

It is anything but healthcare, more like a health risk!

Why these people think their bodies are any more important than others is beyond me.
Abortion is a religion to them for someone else to pay for whatever they desire at any time.

Buy your own birth control or close your legs, end of story.


45 posted on 06/30/2014 11:58:58 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Perdogg

“the debate is over.”

As soon as one of the conservative votes on the Court is replaced by a progressive we will see a string of rulings overturning past settled cases. A progressive president, combined with a progressive court will end what is left of the power of Congress and usher in a dictatorship of a chief executive supported by a 12 member judicial council. A 5-4 progressive majority on the court will rule in favor of on demand free abortions, automatic citizenship for all immigrants, confiscation of private IRA’s and 401K’s, the end of private gun ownership, government control of religious expression, hate speech and thought crime regulation, compulsory euthanasia for the elderly, reparations for minorities, and ultimately the end of private property.

The progressive goal is complete control of the individual by the state. Secular humanist philosophy is incompatible with individual freedom. There is no middle ground.


46 posted on 07/01/2014 12:22:05 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Soul of the South

If there really is a God (a rhetorical hypothetical... I know jolly well there is) some interesting things will befall liberals on the way to doing that.


47 posted on 07/01/2014 12:26:23 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Perdogg

“the debate is over.”

As soon as one of the conservative votes on the Court is replaced by a progressive we will see a string of rulings overturning past settled cases. A progressive president, combined with a progressive court will end what is left of the power of Congress and usher in a dictatorship of a chief executive supported by a 12 member judicial council. A 5-4 progressive majority on the court will rule in favor of on demand free abortions, automatic citizenship for all immigrants, confiscation of private IRA’s and 401K’s, the end of private gun ownership, government control of religious expression, hate speech and thought crime regulation, compulsory euthanasia for the elderly, reparations for minorities, and ultimately the end of private property.

The progressive goal is complete control of the individual by the state. Secular humanist philosophy is incompatible with individual freedom. There is no middle ground.


48 posted on 07/01/2014 12:31:18 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: lbryce

Hope Saint Pete pulls the down lever on this one.


49 posted on 07/01/2014 4:53:18 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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