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Healthy women do not need routine pelvic exams, influential physicians group says [Obamacare Effect]
Washington Post ^ | 7/1/14 | Lenny Bernstein

Posted on 07/01/2014 2:30:21 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

The nation’s second-largest physicians’ organization said Monday that healthy women who are not pregnant do not need routine pelvic exams, a controversial recommendation based on its analysis that, on balance, the manual screening does more harm than good.

The American College of Physicians, which represents 137,000 internal medicine physicians and related specialists, said the diagnostic procedure causes some women discomfort, anxiety, pain and additional medical costs, and may keep some from seeing their doctors. Yet it does little to detect ovarian cancer or other disorders.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; obamacare
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Just take a pain pill, ma'am. The official panel says you don't NEED an exam.
1 posted on 07/01/2014 2:30:23 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Channeling Alan Grayson. “Democrats want you to DIE”


2 posted on 07/01/2014 3:08:56 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This is nothing new. They already had Obama Doctors out there saying that breast examinations aren’t needed at earlier ages (IIRC under 40 or so).


3 posted on 07/01/2014 3:11:15 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SoFloFreeper

I don’t have a dog in this hunt...

Got to say the old colonoscopy seems to be medieval torture with little results. Just sayin’.


4 posted on 07/01/2014 3:13:24 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Really?

Those exams are uncomfortable and intrusive, but they allow the doctor to collect PAP samples. And PAPs save lives by revealing pre-cancerous cells while they are treatable.


5 posted on 07/01/2014 3:14:29 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: SoFloFreeper

So women’s health is at risk if they can’t get FREE birth control from their employer, but not letting them see a doctor for routine exams isn’t a risk to their health??


6 posted on 07/01/2014 3:19:25 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Drango

One doesn’t have to be a supporter of Obamacare to think that we are given endless, pointless tests. Americans just love invasive procedures. How have these driven up the cost of healthcare?


7 posted on 07/01/2014 3:24:01 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

I completely agree.

Way too many tests.

As I get older my opinions on doctors, hospitals, dentists, and veterinarians are changing.

If you are sick (and humans know when they are) go get help if you want it.

Take care of yourself.

Many of these tests, prescription drugs, and “treatments” are money making scams.


8 posted on 07/01/2014 3:40:54 AM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: Aurorales

I agree. My father, a hypochondriac, uses his Medicare like others use their EBT cards. He gets every test in the world, MRIs are used more like tanning booths, goes to doctors for the “social” interaction and enjoys collecting medicine. This has been going on for 30 years. It has completely turned me off his medical community enablers.


9 posted on 07/01/2014 3:47:56 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The democrat war on women continues as far left fringe extremists try to keep the costs of their risky medical insurance scheme under control (or that’s what WaPo would say if they were as partisan for the GOP as they are for the socialist party).


10 posted on 07/01/2014 3:56:15 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Ladies, is this a good decision? Is there validity to their assumptions of gynrcologic need?


11 posted on 07/01/2014 4:08:06 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: Aurorales; All

My point in starting the thread was to express concern that WHATEVER happens, the feds need not be involved. And now, with Obamacare, it IS.... and bureaucracies will be dictating what tests we take. We all can agree that is bad.

The number of “unnecessary” tests could be reduced by tort reform that conservatives have been advocating for YEARS.


12 posted on 07/01/2014 4:14:13 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

So much for “free” birth control if one is not permitted to get an exam by the doc who writes the script for it.


13 posted on 07/01/2014 4:39:33 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I believe the government should have NO say so in what tests we need or do not need.

The problem of unnecessary or over used medical testing can simply be solved by having patients pay more either directly or through insurance for what they have done.

Some people will always take advantage of free stuff. Most medical practitioners will do whatever they can to make more money.

I am tired of paying for moochers, hypochondriacs, and medical bamboozlers.


14 posted on 07/01/2014 4:54:38 AM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

UGH!!!
My health care provider refuses to give me a scrip for a mammogram unless she can do the gyno exam.
I can’t get a new provider (I have tried, it’s Tricare, government meds) so I have not gone to the doc in a couple years now.They refuses to allow another doc to give me a physical.
I do not live a risky lifestyle, have no pain or other symptoms, and I am in incredible discomfort during that exam. It does not help that I hate people touching me.
So this is good news for me.


15 posted on 07/01/2014 5:00:17 AM PDT by ronniesgal (Good Grief.)
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To: miss marmelstein

I have a sister on SSI. Another mythical case of fibromyalgia.

She is not sick. But at this point the drugs her “doctors” have given her are causing real problems.
Which of course she loves because it will keep her on the government dole.

I watched a physically well person whine to all the right people. She was rewarded with a monthly check, free health care, and all the drugs a needy moocher could want.

Oh...and she loves to get medical tests. Pap smears and all.


16 posted on 07/01/2014 5:03:48 AM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

How does a woman know that she is healthy if she doesn’t get examined by a doctor from time to time.

Obviously if one is healthy one doesn’t need to be examined, but the examination is how you KNOW that you are healthy.


17 posted on 07/01/2014 5:03:49 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: SoFloFreeper

I rather have one than watch kickball.


18 posted on 07/01/2014 5:06:43 AM PDT by Patriot365
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To: miss marmelstein

I agree with you as well. The revision of invasive medical practices is not always related to the downgrading of medicine in government health care. U.S. Preventive medical care and testing has really gotten out of hand and causing needless invasive procedures. Some excellent books in this area are written by Dr. H. Gilbert Welch - professor of medicine at the Dartmouth Institute for Health Policy and Clinical Practice, who is a co-author of “Overdiagnosed: Making People Sick in the Pursuit of Health.”

Essay by him in NY TIMES -

Testing Standard Medical Practices
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/20/opinion/testing-standard-medical-practices.html?_r=0

Also author, Should I be Tested for Cancer?
http://www.amazon.com/Should-Be-Tested-Cancer-Maybe/dp/0520248368


19 posted on 07/01/2014 5:11:07 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus (iI)
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To: NCLaw441

Wrong.

How do you feel? Is everything working ok?
If you feel nothing is wrong, you are probably correct.

If you don’t feel well or something isn’t working right or smelling right, or whatever....then go see someone.

God knew what he was doing. Go with your God given instincts. They are almost always right.


20 posted on 07/01/2014 5:11:21 AM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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