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Obama to go it alone on immigration, pleasing few
AP ^ | 7/1/2014 | JIM KUHNHENN and ERICA WERNER

Posted on 07/01/2014 3:39:42 AM PDT by markomalley

President Barack Obama's abrupt shift from seeking immigration legislation to pursuing a go-it-alone executive strategy raises expectations among immigration advocates that Obama may have trouble satisfying while setting up a clash with House Republicans who've already threatened to sue him.

Limited in his powers to ease deportations and under pressure to crack down on a tide of Central American children entering the U.S. without their parents, Obama has only so many options to tackle an immigration conundrum complicated by a midterm election that could cost him Democratic control of the Senate.

Obama on Monday blamed Republican resistance for the demise of sweeping immigration legislation and vowed to bypass Congress to patch up the system. "If Congress will not do their job, at least we can do ours," Obama said.

But seeking to slow deportations while simultaneously stemming the flow of young people across the U.S. Southern border presents Obama with a knotty set of policy choices.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; despotism
At some point in time in the near future, I anticipate that he will totally abandon any pretense at following the law.

Yes, right now he is making a pretense at following the law: for example, he directed Holder and Johnson to look for ways that he could have his will using executive action.

By abandoning this pretense, he will make statements similar to, This law is unjust, the Supreme Court is corrupt, and Congress is obstructionist. Therefore, I am ordering ______ to do the right thing.

That will bring some tears to Boehner's eyes, but, otherwise, the media will cheer. The left wing religions will cheer. Congress will sit on their hands. And the courts will throw out any lawsuits as either not demonstrating any damage or having no standing.

(Naw, I'm not cynical at all)

1 posted on 07/01/2014 3:39:42 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

The Republican Presidential Candidate that I vote for in 2016 had better have a sworn promise that he will enforce existing immigration laws, vigilantly defend our borders, and nullify every single Executive Order Obama ever signed (including the ones he’s going to implement this summer).

He/She either does that or I will not vote for them. I was goaded into voting for McStain and Mittens - no more. NEVER.


2 posted on 07/01/2014 3:49:21 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: markomalley

I miss the rule of law. Once it collapses completely, even most liberals will miss it too.


3 posted on 07/01/2014 3:49:27 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: markomalley
According to John Wayne in one of his cowboy movies:
When the Law breaks the Law then there is NO LAW.
4 posted on 07/01/2014 3:56:40 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Why would ANYBODY want to be President after the mess ZERO is leaving?)
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To: markomalley

Dems are now free to wreak havoc by using the affirmative action tool for whatever means they want; he has been safely re-elected, and their candidates can distance themselves from him as needed to suit their political needs.


5 posted on 07/01/2014 4:03:03 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: markomalley
def: defense system responsibilities - An integrated body politic system that differentiates the Republic's and Citizens' Heritage from foreign invaders and neutralizes such potentially pathogenic organisms or substances; it is primarily the responsibility of the Federal Government.

Dropping by a White House gathering of immigration advocates who were meeting with his senior advisers Monday, Obama promised he would take "aggressive" steps [to protect all invaders]

The Obama Administration is an autoimmune disease.

An autoimmune disorder is a condition that occurs when the governing system both mistakenly and deliberately attacks and destroys healthy body politic.

It is caused by unstable radicals.

The system gets overwhelmed by aged 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats and their ideological litters.

We must act quickly.

Void the bowels of Washington, D.C. 2014 - 2016

6 posted on 07/01/2014 4:03:40 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: markomalley
We are now a Banana Republic led by a little DICTATOR. This will NOT end well.

Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!!

7 posted on 07/01/2014 4:05:54 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: markomalley

Start defunding the executive branch, now!


8 posted on 07/01/2014 4:08:21 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Gaffer

>>He/She either does that or I will not vote for them. I was goaded into voting for McStain and Mittens - no more. NEVER<<

The enemy of the good is the perfect.

Neither McCain nor Romney got us into this mess. People who stayed on the sidelines did (especially 2012).

Always vote for the most conservative candidate, even if he/she does not meet the purity test (which Reagan would have failed).


9 posted on 07/01/2014 4:08:48 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: All

10 posted on 07/01/2014 4:14:48 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: All
As if Democrats are going to go along with this---like they need another Obama millstone around their necks.

Conman Obama duped the Democrats into Obamacare----some say through unsavory payoffs...and his cockamamie promises that turned out to be blatant lies.

Democrats are hogtied to Obamacare and scared stiff about losing their seats as they face a vengeful electorate 2014-16.

Obama's bravura declaration that he'll go it alone in immigration b/c, "If Congress will not do their job, at least we can do ours,".......has Democrats running for cover.

11 posted on 07/01/2014 4:17:29 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: freedumb2003

I am just not going to buy that argument anymore.

While McCain and Mittens didn’t single-handedly get us where we are, the GOP establishment machine that selects those kind did. They were, are, the epitome of the GOPe ideal, and that ideal is poised once again to put forth another loser. How can your warrior fight the fight when he puts down the sword even before the battle is joined?

There is nothing about conservatism that says one must compromise principles for fruitless expediency, and expediency that cannot be proven worthwhile dating back decades. It got us No Child Left Behind, Prescription Medicare, DHS, TSA [very big threats to our freedom], and now is prepared to fully embrace amnesty, at least whatever their code word is for that now.


12 posted on 07/01/2014 4:18:55 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Pollster1

I miss the rule of law. Once it collapses completely, even most liberals will miss it too.

They will really miss it if Shariah Law is put in its place.and the genocide of gays begin.


13 posted on 07/01/2014 4:29:30 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Pollster1

We will make sure of that!


14 posted on 07/01/2014 4:36:51 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Gaffer

He/She either does that or I will not vote for them. I was goaded into voting for McStain and Mittens - no more. NEVER

My franchise was bought with the blood of Americans. It is far to valuable to me to be wasted on voting for “the lesser of 2 evils” or for anyone that will is not capable of doing the job and honoring the Constitution and the people. Many try to tell you it is unpatriotic not to vote. I say bullshit. It is unpatriotic to vote for someone you know is wrong for the office just because you want an R there instead of a D. It is unpatriotic to vote for a person just because of their skin color or their sex. Being a sheep is not Patriotic. Our Founders were not sheep. The people that wrote the Constitution were not sheep.


15 posted on 07/01/2014 4:37:32 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Why would NOT funding all these horrific ideas of odumbos not cut him off at the knees?
16 posted on 07/01/2014 4:39:30 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: freedumb2003

Purity test. Ha. How about the corruption test? Should we vote for the least corrupt? I’m not listening to this anymore. The GOP hates conservatives more than the Rats do.


17 posted on 07/01/2014 4:41:32 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod

hillary thanks you for your vote.


18 posted on 07/01/2014 4:45:30 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: freedumb2003

I’m not voting for Hillary. Have you not seen what’s happened by voting the lesser of two evils? Now we have NO representation in DC. We haven’t for over 20 years.


19 posted on 07/01/2014 4:51:08 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: freedumb2003

You seem JUST LIKE these GOPe statists we talk about so much here.

First, it’s the tired and misused argument of the lesser of two evils, then when that gets shot down, it’s on to caterwauling about “Hillary thanks you”, “you’re voting Democrat”, or whatever. Then when that doesn’t work some of you move onto the epithets. I’ve seen it time and time again here.

Principles are a vastly different thing from expediency and settling. Principles, backed up by fighting for them, founded this country. Expediency of the lesser of two evils got us McCain and Mittens which begat Obama.


20 posted on 07/01/2014 4:51:31 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SECURE AMERICA

You should vote (even if it is for some obscure third party candidate, or write someone in) so they know you got off the couch and showed up; politicians of both parties love it when people are so apathetic they don’t even show up (those people are easier to lead around by the nose).

The problem for the Republicans is that they are trying to attract “legacy Americans” (the dwindling remnants of the Euro-Americans that built this country), and in doing so ignore the conservative base. These are fiscal rather than social conservatives (liberal whites who don’t want to keep paying for blacks and illegals), and they are easily influenced by the “media”; in tiptoeing around their sensitivities, they abandon the important moral issues.


21 posted on 07/01/2014 4:51:39 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: jsanders2001
They will really miss it if Shariah Law is put in its place, and the genocide of gays begin.

Every silver lining has to have its dark cloud. While I do not favor any aspect of the Shariah Law (being the most hopeless hodgepodge of totally contradictory case law ever conceived), the very fact that it COULD be imposed should shock even the most wild-eyed liberal into at least a few moments or relative lucidity and sanity.

But perhaps I hold out for far too much. Madness feeds upon itself, and never seems to be consumed.

The frenzy continues.

22 posted on 07/01/2014 4:53:31 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: freedumb2003

Let’s try this: how about we nominate a true conservative? Not going to happen. Why not? The GOP base is conservative. Not going to happen because the game is rigged by front loading open primaries and diverting party money to liberals. Then they expect you to fall in line in November. Forget it. The GOP has to die. National election don’t matter anyway. The agencies rule Washington.


24 posted on 07/01/2014 4:56:12 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Gaffer

obama also thanks you for your vote.

The epithet “statist” helps your feeble attempt at argumentation not at all.

We must work as hard as possible to get the best candidate we can (Cruz in 2016?).

After that we must vote for the mos conservative candidate, even if it doesn’t meet the impossible Conservative Purity Test.

Thank you for obamacare.


25 posted on 07/01/2014 4:58:34 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: freedumb2003

Like I said.....standard rules for GOPe Republicans - attack conservatives first, then figure out how to lose to Democrats convincingly so the unprincipled keep voting for them..


26 posted on 07/01/2014 5:02:53 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: freedumb2003
....even if it doesn’t meet the impossible Conservative Purity Test.

While we've gotten on a side discussion here, I'd harken back to my original post regarding enforcing immigration laws and Amnesty and nullifying Obama's EOs. Just exactly what is impossibly purist about making a candidate pledge to obey the laws and respect America's sovereignty? That's impossibly purist?

27 posted on 07/01/2014 5:05:54 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Keep in mind that before 2016, the existing immigration laws may be Comprehensive Immigration Reform, not the current never enforced laws.

If this ends up being the case, 2016 will not matter because a Democrat is sure to win with the new Illegals getting amnesty.


28 posted on 07/01/2014 5:07:23 AM PDT by dforest
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To: markomalley

If Obama acts on immigration without Congressional approval I could see that triggering armed insurrection in border states.


29 posted on 07/01/2014 5:10:13 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ
If Obama acts on immigration without Congressional approval I could see that triggering armed insurrection in border states.

I can see a lot of talk happening. More? I'm not so confident.

30 posted on 07/01/2014 5:11:43 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
Pubs should let Obama go it alone.

By the November elections, he will have so fouled up immigration & the border situation that Majority leader Reid will be history. The American people will be furious at the resulting horror of an open border with criminals & terrorists poring over the border, & an irresponsible, out of control President. The humanitarian crisis created by Obama will make Katrina look like one flooded basement with a dead pet gerbil. It will be his crisis & his alone, just as Bush owned Katrina.

Passing bipartisan immigration legislation with the dual despots Reid & Obama is a waste of time. Reid will stifle any debate in the Senate, & regardless of what Congress passes, Obama will violate the law with impunity - see Obamacare for reference. The laws necessary to secure the border are already on the books. Besides, if Obama wanted a secure border, why would he care what the law says?

Rats want this legislation, however bad it might be, as political cover for the November elections. With its passing, Pubs will share responsibility for the continuing crisis, effectively neutering it as a campaign issue.

31 posted on 07/01/2014 5:16:22 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: markomalley

Judging from the latest polling on the kiddie stampede at the border, Obama may have finally bitten off more than he can chew with this.


32 posted on 07/01/2014 5:19:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: freedumb2003
Neither McCain nor Romney got us into this mess. People who stayed on the sidelines did (especially 2012).

And you are a freaking moron if you think both McCain and Romney wouldn't have done the same thing! Both of them were immigration radicals.

33 posted on 07/01/2014 5:23:37 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999

>>And you are a freaking moron if you think both McCain and Romney wouldn’t have done the same thing! Both of them were immigration radicals.<<

And your candidate, obama, was so much better.

Thanks for obamacare.


34 posted on 07/01/2014 5:24:56 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: freedumb2003

LOL, right. My candidate was slimed by Romney and his thugs. Any decent candidate was destroyed early and often and now we know, after watching the Mississippi race how that happens. And tell me exactly what the difference is between Obama care and Romney care?


35 posted on 07/01/2014 5:30:46 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999

>>LOL, right. My candidate was slimed by Romney and his thugs. Any decent candidate was destroyed early and often and now we know, after watching the Mississippi race how that happens. <<

Your candidate won. Tanks to people who don’t know the difference between good and perfect.

>>And tell me exactly what the difference is between Obama care and Romney care?<<

Well since Romneycare was a state initiative and Romney was clear he would repeal obozocare, I would say that your vote made obozocare the law of the land and applies to me.

Thanks again for that.


36 posted on 07/01/2014 5:35:04 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: dforest

Yes, Democrats would win give the case you cite. And that is why I see it as an absolute imperative that the GOP fight any and all legislation regarding any sort of “comprehensive” that is really nothing more than a coward’s mechanism to allow criminals here illegally to remain here legally, and to provide them with the legitimization of citizenship, pathwayed or otherwise.


37 posted on 07/01/2014 6:09:17 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: markomalley


38 posted on 07/01/2014 6:33:27 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: markomalley

Of course, he’s going it alone. He’s completely and totally castrated SCOTUS and Congress so he’s now the WON and only branch of government. Heil, Prez Stompy Feet!


39 posted on 07/01/2014 6:36:20 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Ann Archy

Public schooled tween-aged nephews were here for their summer visit and insisted dictators were the best leaders, followed by tyrants. Of course, they couldn’t name a single dictator or what he’d done that was so wonderful. No, don’t anyone start on homeschooling. If these parents approve of this sort of education, then homeschooling would be even worse than public schooling.


40 posted on 07/01/2014 6:44:23 AM PDT by bgill
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To: kearnyirish2

The truth will exposé the Dems and Alinkskytes every time. We need more truth seekers. Sure it’s a lot of work but that’s the price you pay when given up too much already.


41 posted on 07/01/2014 8:00:07 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: markomalley

I hope Obama keeps collecting fingerprints.


42 posted on 07/01/2014 11:34:59 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: freedumb2003

You guys absolutely slay me, you use democrat tactics even here. You think we don’t see that, you think we don’t recognize that? No more buddy, it’s over.


43 posted on 07/01/2014 9:53:14 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: jsanders2001

In addition to getting the truth out there, it is critical to get voters to associate the Democratic Party with a national movement. When voters in a conservative state elect a conservative Democrat, they have to see the impact that has on the national scene (in terms of majorities in Congress, the Supreme Court, etc.).


44 posted on 07/02/2014 2:49:40 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: McGavin999

>>You guys absolutely slay me, you use democrat tactics even here. You think we don’t see that, you think we don’t recognize that? No more buddy, it’s over.<<

When you have lost the argument, go to ad hominem attacks. Right from the Alinsky playbook.

Hey, if that is all you have, res isa loquater baby...


45 posted on 07/02/2014 4:27:13 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: freedumb2003
Right, if Romney we such a wiz then why did he lose, even with all the GOPe money behind him? He lost because he was a nothingburger and people didn't like him. Not the activists, although we did detest him, we did suck it up and vote. The average American thought he was a nothing so they didn't go out and vote. Romney and the GOPe gave us Obama and you guys keep trying to pin your failure on US. No more Bubba, it's over we aren't playing anymore because you guys cheat, lie and steal and we're done.

That's how we know you are liberals, your projection is showing.

46 posted on 07/02/2014 4:43:20 AM PDT by McGavin999
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