Skip to comments.‘Now that bodies found, world won’t abide large military campaign’
Posted on 07/01/2014 6:27:56 AM PDT by Star Traveler
Despite the countless messages of condolence issued by leaders across the Western world, the international community would show little understanding if Israel were to launch a wide-scale military operation against Palestinian targets or expand settlements in response to the killing of the three Israeli teenagers, a senior diplomatic official warned Tuesday.
We had some legitimacy to carry out Operation Brothers Keeper, including massive arrests of Hamas members, the official told The Times of Israel, referring to the IDFs efforts to locate Eyal Yifrach, Gil-ad Shaar and Naftali Fraenkel, who were snatched from a hitchhiking post south of Jerusalem and killed on June 12. The international community frowned upon the 18-day search for the three, which included the arrests of hundreds of Hamas members, but not too much, the official said, adding that Israel was only condemned when noncombatants were harmed.
Now the whole thing is over and we will not have legitimacy for any military operation, the official, who insisted on anonymity, said. While we were looking for the kidnapped teenagers there was legitimacy for the operation, though not for the casualties. There were condemnations, but it was understood that we had to find the teens. Now, however, this justification does not exist anymore. Now any forceful IDF operation will not be understood.
Israel is expected to crack down on terrorist organizations in the coming days, but world leaders expect Jerusalem not to provoke too much violence on the ground, the diplomatic official said. Thats not going to look justifiable.
(Excerpt) Read more at timesofisrael.com ...
I say Isreal should kick Hamas butt up and down the river and not worry about ‘condemnation’. They get that no matter what they do. Personally, I’d be tired of their Pali nonsense and would go Biblical on them.
They have dove’s in Israel too -
Actually, what IS needed now is extreme violence as that is all the muzzies understand. Israel has been playing “nice” for many, many years and no matter what Israel does some idjit in the UN condemns Israel. Well, Israel should know the bad mouthing is coming anyway; make their jaws drop and then announce to the world “We can keep going if the muzzies don’t wish to abandon their murderous ways...Eventually we’ll run out of muzzies to be violent with”
What I find facinating is how people seemingly allow leftist opinion to so rule over them and dictate what they do. Who cares what the looney left thinks, they are wrong 99% of the time anyway.
excerpt- a senior diplomatic official warned Tuesday.
What’s the official’s name? (question directed to the reporter.)
That excerpt sounds very centered about what the world thinks.
In reality, Israel should do what is in the best interests of preventing this, and other terrorist actions like it, from happening anytime soon again. If Israel would then take some world heat, especially from its “friend” the USofBarack, then so-be-it.
>> Now the whole thing is over and we will not have legitimacy for any military operation, the official, who insisted on anonymity, said.
Ah, yes, the inevitable secular leftist JINO “official” wagging his finger for the press, urging restraint.
Anonymously, of course.
The Palestinian Authority doesn’t do rocket attacks ... but Hamas does ...
Were those boys molested?
That kind of disagreement is right inside the middle of Netanyahu’s meeting with his Cabinet ...
I think they were killed quickly ...
You think they give a damn what the world thinks or wants? Go for it Israel.
What would the “world” do?
Those air strikes were not for the teens. Israel made it clear it was for the rocket attacks. Netanyahu’s Cabinet is still discussing what to do in connection with the teens.
>> They have doves in Israel too
You bet they do.
And secular Socialists. “Jews in name only”.
Lots of overlap between the doves and the socialist douchbags.
***...the international community would show little understanding if Israel...***
Not the international community I hang around with. We, and many like us, are 100% with Israel.
Do what you’ve got to do Mr. Prime Minister.
They do take that into consideration ... but if something is clearly more important for Israel’s SECURITY, then Israel will act alone. The question here, though ... is what kind and level of retaliation will Israel have against Hamas.
>> That kind of disagreement is right inside the middle of Netanyahus meeting with his Cabinet ...
Of course. Too damn many JINOs in high places in the Israeli government
What do you want to bet that “anonymous official” counseling restraint is one of those slimy Arab MK’s?
Actually, I think it would be better that instead of a short term military campaign, that Israel adopt a different long term strategy.
Muslims are obsessive about territorial conquest by any means. It is the one way a Muslim can demonstrate to other Muslims that they are a “righteous” Muslim. Conversely, the worst and most shameful thing a Muslim can do is to lose land to infidels. To do so causes bitter humiliation.
Importantly, land eclipses *all* other things. Including prosperity, peace, happiness, family, and the thousand other things that Jews and Christians like about life.
But getting land is a form of greed. Thus it is endless and never satisfied. They want *all* land, everywhere. So offering them *some* land just whets their appetite.
Thus, a policy of “land for peace” is not just ineffective, it makes their behavior worse.
So the first thing the Israelis should do is to make a policy that they will never, ever, surrender *any* land to Muslims, no matter what is threatened or promised.
But then, the new policy: That with each and every attack against Jews and Israel, the Muslims will *forfeit* some land. It doesn’t have to be a whole lot. Even a few acres of empty desert would drive the Muslims bonkers.
They would threaten, offer anything (lying of course), and go begging to other countries to make Israel give them that land back!
And the other countries would be puzzled as to why a few acres of empty desert mean so much to the Muslims, so they would undoubtedly ask, or even demand, that Israel give it back, “because it is meaningless”.
But Israel must be firm. No, nothing, not. It is forfeit, *forever*. It may not be Jewish land, but it is no longer Muslim land. And it will never be traded or offered to Muslims for any reason.
Oddly enough, this is so traumatizing to Muslims, that under the threat of losing more land, they may actually agree to peace. But not ever in exchange for the land they lost, but only to keep from losing even more land.
Since they are an inherently violent and hateful people, they might eventually lose all of the Gaza Strip. And if that is the case, so be it.
Other than blowing up the kidnapper's houses ?
Frankly the Muzzies don't have to understand IDF action, they only have to endure ire, wrath, retribution and punishment for their actions. Light'em up! Weapons free.
If it were me and I’d identified any specific house, I’d flatten the whole damned city it was in.
The only thing about that is that it’s ISRAEL who wants the land to be given to the Palestinians, for a Palestinian state. Israel wants that more than the Palestinians do ... :-) ...
The reason why is if Israel incorporates all that land into the nation of Israel the numbers of Muslims that are there will turn Israel instantly into an ARAB STATE.
That’s what Israel wants to avoid at all costs and that’s why Israel does NOT WANT the land where millions of Arabs are residing right now.
That’s what I wondered. This slimeball has no words about what the “international community” should feel, say or do, re the demonic beasts who did this? What about international outrage over that? Or isn’t there any?
I hate to tell you, but that turned out to be a false report.
the world can go suck the root Man.
Israel should do what it has to do
Netanyahu doesn’t have any of those inside his cabinet where those discussions are going on ... :-) ...
Israel doesn’t do WAR CRIMES ...
Get medieval on their buttocks!
“>> Now the whole thing is over and we will not have legitimacy for any military operation, the official, who insisted on anonymity, said.
So, it’s okay to be upset while the Israeli teens were missing, but after they were found butchered — just get over it.
No, the rockets come from Hamas controlled land.
>> So, its okay to be upset while the Israeli teens were missing, but after they were found butchered just get over it.
But this is just what the ‘Rats would have us believe about terrorists. They’re not engaging in acts of war; they’re merely criminals.
There are apparently Israeli “officials” who think like Obama. You’d think that Israel would have figured it out after five thousand years of this crap, but apparently, no.
Freepers have short memories. The 2006 Lebanon war made Israel look like fools. Hezbollah were far better trained and prepared than they expected. The result left Israel stunned and wounded.
This isn’t your grandfather’s Israel. Thinking they can just waltz in and overwhelm the enemy is not realistic. The same problems within our armed forces are present in Israel’s armed forces.
>> PA is complicit if not a partner.
Yep. Anyone who believes the PA has ever acted in good faith, or is now acting in good faith, or ever WILL act in good faith, is at best an idiot — and at worst, a Jew hater. And there are PLENTY of folks all across that evil spectrum, sad to say.
Israel does extreme violence to the terrorists and their operations facilities - but Israel very very carefully avoids any collateral damage to Palestinian civilians.
>> This isnt your grandfathers Israel... The same problems within our armed forces are present in Israels armed forces.
That’s true, as far as it goes. But you’re implying the problem with Israel’s military is one of competence.
Nothing could be further from the truth. If anything, Israel’s military prowess is BETTER than that of “your grandfather’s Israel”. MUCH better. With an all-important intelligence capability second to NONE in the WORLD.
No, the problems with Israel’s military is that they haven’t the WILL to defeat their enemies.
(We in the US have precisely the same problem.)
Israel could have thoroughly kicked butt in Lebanon in 2006. HAD THEY BEEN WILLING. Hezbollah was nothing near a match for Israel, except for the WILL TO DO WHATEVER WAS NECESSARY TO WIN.
:: or expand settlements in response to the killing of the three Israeli teenagers ::
Seriously? Isreal would consider a legitimate response of building another dozen houses in Gaza?
Who is this idiot ^Ahren^...Jimmah Cahtah and Habitat for Humanity?
>> Israel very very carefully avoids any collateral damage to Palestinian civilians.
Too bad, that. Unless you stop the breeders, there will always be more cockroaches with homemade rockets.
Long, long ago, the LORD GOD instructed the Israelites to utterly destroy certain groups of Philistines and Canaanites. In other words, wipe out the DNA of that vermin. It has always been man’s sinful proclivity to disobey the LORD. Their disobedience has come back on them a hundredfold.
The ONLY way there will be peace.
Prime Minister Netanyahu finds the PA very useful. It helps Israel avoid putting their soldiers right in the middle of Palestinian enclaves.
In fact about a year or so ago, there was some bill in Congress to cut off some funding to the PA. Netanyahu pleaded with Congressional members to not cut it off ... and they listened to him and didn’t do it.
Israel doesn’t do WAR CRIMES and indiscriminately target civilians. They scrupulously avoid any collateral damage to Palestinian civilians and directly target the terrorist operatives.
>> Prime Minister Netanyahu finds the PA very useful.
It’s like bargaining with Satan himself, for temporary comfort.
There will be NO peace for GOD’s chosen ones until they utterly subdue their enemies, by whatever means are necessary.
Israel is not a THEOCRACY ... but a member of “the West” and as a modern democratic country — upholds the rights of all civilians, either under military or civilian control. They also uphold all religious rights of the major religions ... and protect all religious sites.