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Supreme Court ruling on union dues could cost SEIU millions in payback
Fox News ^ | July 1, 2014 | Perry Chiaramonte

Posted on 07/01/2014 8:46:23 AM PDT by jazusamo

One of the nation's most powerful labor unions could face a costly onslaught of lawsuits seeking tens of millions of dollars in dues, after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled the money was collected improperly, legal experts said.

In a ruling Monday, the high court held that Service Employees International Union cannot force people who care for loved ones to be union members and deduct dues from the government checks of those they care for. The practice has gone on for several years in a handful of states, creating a lucrative stream of cash for the powerful labor organization, which represents more than 2 million workers and takes in about $300 million per year.

“The whole point of the decision was that the folks milked by the SEIU weren’t really public employees and should not be forced to pay union dues at all," said Hans Bader, senior attorney for the Competitive Enterprise Institute. "So they should be able to sue for refund of their compelled union dues back as far as the statute of limitations will allow.

“It could have a large effect,” he added.

Paul Kersey, an attorney and director of labor policy at the Illinois Policy Institute, which represented plaintiff Pamela Harris in Harris v. Quinn, acknowledged the next step may be to recoup dues.

"It’s something that we are looking at,” Kersey said. “We’re pleased with the decision and are definitely looking at possible options going forward.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: harrisvquinn; pamharris; paulkersey; publicunions; seiu; unions
Kudos to Paul Kersey and the Illinois Policy Institute on the job they did for Pam Harris and others, here's hoping they'll recoup the dues for them already paid to the SEIU.

He must take a lot of jabs for his name. :-)

1 posted on 07/01/2014 8:46:23 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

He must take a lot of jabs for his name.

Huh?


2 posted on 07/01/2014 8:48:46 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Charles Bronson in DW?


3 posted on 07/01/2014 8:49:56 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Death Wish, Charles Bronson—Paul Kersey


4 posted on 07/01/2014 8:50:05 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: eyeamok

I saw that movie so long ago that I don’t recognize the character’s name.


5 posted on 07/01/2014 8:52:41 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: jazusamo

Their victims are suing the SEIU for more than $34 million here in Michigan alone.


6 posted on 07/01/2014 8:52:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: jazusamo

getting the mob to pay back their ill gotten union dues money, good luck with that.


7 posted on 07/01/2014 8:53:06 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: jazusamo

They would rob the Widows and Orphans Fund????


8 posted on 07/01/2014 8:53:42 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: jazusamo

I’m hoping it’s in the hundreds of millions.


9 posted on 07/01/2014 8:55:06 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: cripplecreek
Their victims are suing the SEIU for more than $34 million here in Michigan alone.

Every now and then we get some good news to brighten our day!

10 posted on 07/01/2014 8:55:51 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: cripplecreek

That’s great, hopefully suits will follow in all those states listed.


11 posted on 07/01/2014 8:56:13 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: eyeamok; jazusamo

Thanks for clarifying the name ‘Paul Kersey’. I was stumped.


12 posted on 07/01/2014 8:56:44 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: jazusamo

Bankrupt the union pigs.


13 posted on 07/01/2014 8:57:40 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: jazusamo

PLUS INTEREST.

and punative if possible.


14 posted on 07/01/2014 9:00:15 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: sitetest

if the union declares bankruptcy, the unions may lose control of their pension funds.

Also, the have a tap into their future dues payments.

unions have a serious problem.


15 posted on 07/01/2014 9:02:01 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Yep, if it happens those union leaders will be screaming bloody murder.


16 posted on 07/01/2014 9:04:42 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Will the Democrats have to give back SEIU campaign donations?

On another topic, who do we sue to get back the $11 billion the Democrats lost bailing out the GM unions?


17 posted on 07/01/2014 9:06:22 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

An excellent question but I’m afraid that $11 billion is down the Rat hole like all of 0bama’s taxpayer funded slush fund.


18 posted on 07/01/2014 9:10:10 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

ABOLISH all public service employee unions, except those organized for “First Responders”!!! Follow the absolutely correct advice of Democrat, POTUS, Franklin Delano Roosevelt...”No employee of the Federal Govenment should ever be allowed to belong to a union. Wanna correct the education problems minorities have in this USA....abolish all teaacher unions...problems will go away overnight!!

LMAO at these minorities that support Obama and his union thugs!!! I guess the minorities enjoy being held down by Obama and his union low life!!! Me...i’d fire all the public service workers in the federal government...and start all over again!!!


19 posted on 07/01/2014 9:11:16 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Paul Kersey....Huh?......Charles Bronson playing in the schlock movies about killing miscreants. Can’t remember the names but they fired people up for revenge.


20 posted on 07/01/2014 9:12:25 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Why do “first responders” need an employee union?


21 posted on 07/01/2014 9:12:44 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: jazusamo

I hope they have to pay it all back, with interest and penalties


22 posted on 07/01/2014 9:20:23 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Safetgiver

23 posted on 07/01/2014 9:23:30 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: jazusamo

does this make all states right to work?


24 posted on 07/01/2014 9:24:13 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: cripplecreek
My wife took care of her mother for two years and had about $30 held back for dues each month. She had no choice and in fact was never even advised she was in the union until she saw her first check. I've love to see those commie crooks busted right out of existence.
25 posted on 07/01/2014 9:27:05 AM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: jazusamo

How much of that $300 million flowed into the coffers of the rats from Obozo to rat $inators and Governors.


26 posted on 07/01/2014 9:27:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo, the Sunni Won-Doer, will not divert $'s from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

No, it does not. This ruling basically makes government contract workers not subject to paying union dues for supposedly being represented by public sector unions even though they’re not members.


27 posted on 07/01/2014 9:29:15 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: beelzepug; SierraWasp

“My wife took care of her mother for two years and had about $30 held back for dues each month. She had no choice and in fact was never even advised she was in the union until she saw her first check. I’ve love to see those commie crooks busted right out of existence.”

Did your wife’s mother have a Long Term Insurance Policy plan which paid your wife for her mother’s care?

The reason I’m asking, a friend of my wife had a sister who took care of her MIL, got paid by the LTC insurance company, and her sister had to pay union dues to these thugs.

Is so, we now know why.

Thanks
Dave


28 posted on 07/01/2014 9:32:17 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo, the Sunni Won-Doer, will not divert $'s from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: beelzepug

What they did in Michigan was send out ballots and people tossed them in the trash assuming they were junk mail since they weren’t in the union. Then the union counted the ballots of existing members and the handful they got back behind closed doors and determined that everybody wanted to be in the union. Then they quickly destroyed the ballots before the victims knew what hit them.


29 posted on 07/01/2014 9:32:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: jazusamo
The practice has gone on for several years in a handful of states,

It's absolutely unconscionable that this was ever permitted anywhere. It simply had to have been a fine-print/add-on/done-in-the-dark sort of law the Left thrives on. No sane person would knowingly vote for something this ludicrous.

30 posted on 07/01/2014 9:36:16 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: jazusamo

um... I thought this had to do with home healthcare workers caring for family members being forced to pay union dues? what does that have to do with government contractors?


31 posted on 07/01/2014 9:39:35 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: All

how about garnishing all account transfers? seizing all money given to candidates as a preferential transfer.


32 posted on 07/01/2014 9:41:13 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Grampa Dave

That could very well be what happened with my wife. She no longer has any records as her mother passed six years ago. I’m sure Washington State has records, though. Wasn’t SEIU started by the same people who started ACORN?


33 posted on 07/01/2014 9:49:04 AM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Those parents caring for disabled family members were paid a given amount per month by Medicaid/Medicare and have been referred to as contract workers.

The unions referred to them as healthcare workers so they could collect dues.


34 posted on 07/01/2014 9:49:33 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

“ABOLISH all public service employee unions, except those organized for “First Responders”!!! “

EXCEPT FIRST RESPONDERS? They should be the first to go. Our Fire District is a disgrace. Fire Board is “packed” with firefighters who live in the district but work outside it. They’ve given their buddies so much money it’s a travesty. A firefighter now makes more than $100,000 per year base salary, and takes home at least another $100,000 in “overtime.” District policy limits the hiring of new personnel just so those already on the pad can bilk the district with their outrageous OT scam. And then theres all the high-end food they eat on the taxpayers (they only shop in the most expensive market in town). So on they go “eating until they are sleepy, then sleeping until they are hungry.” Cops are is second place, and their union needs to go as well.


35 posted on 07/01/2014 9:56:55 AM PDT by vette6387
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36 posted on 07/01/2014 10:03:53 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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37 posted on 07/01/2014 10:07:48 AM PDT by IamConservative (If fighting fire with fire is a good idea, why do the pros use water?)
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To: beelzepug

“That could very well be what happened with my wife. She no longer has any records as her mother passed six years ago. I’m sure Washington State has records, though. Wasn’t SEIU started by the same people who started ACORN?”

Thanks to your reply, Acorn/SEIU probably got some sweet heart deal passed at the state level and maybe by Obozo’s congress.

When my wife asked me about what happened to a sister of one of her friends (last week), I was at a loss. Now I know.

The sad thing in both cases if this deduction came from a Long Term Insurance policy, the people paying for the policy had zero input to these new obscene taxes.

To your other question, basically no difference between SEIU and ACORN. Both are left wing socialist organizations with the top dogs getting rich until one went to jail.


38 posted on 07/01/2014 11:25:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo, the Sunni Won-Doer, will not divert $'s from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: GeronL

For only one reason.....hazardous working conditions, especially in the ghetto sections of major cities........where they are placed in harm’s by the Obamabot legions of low life thugs and druggies!!!


39 posted on 07/01/2014 12:25:40 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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To: Grampa Dave
As the late Huel Howeser would say… THAT'S AMAZIN!!!

I too was so please with this SCOTUS ruling!!!

As you may know, Dave, not all insurers reimburse the expense of immediate family member's wages for covered services. Those that do have generally always cost far more premium prior to claim than those that cover non-relative care services only.

But you probably knew that all ready. It's hard to fire immediate family members and sometime they don't do the work they bill for, if you know what I mean.

40 posted on 07/01/2014 8:45:31 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Obama is mad! He's getting madder with each crisis and now he's a real MADMAN with no temper left!!!)
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