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Israel Should Not Turn Tragedy into Fiasco
Voice of America ^ | July 01, 2014 | Barbara Slavin

Posted on 07/01/2014 9:02:05 AM PDT by SJackson

The murder of three Israeli teenagers in the West Bank has sent shock waves through Israeli and Palestinian society and raised fears that the relatively quiescent Arab-Israeli front will explode into a new war.

A stormy Israeli cabinet session considered a variety of retaliatory options for the killings of Naftali Fraenkel, Gilad Shaar and Eyal Yifrah, including another major military operation against Hamas in Gaza and further boosting Israeli settlement construction in the West Bank.

In fact, the steps already taken by Israeli authorities in the 18 days between the boys’ disappearance and the discovery of their bodies under a pile of rocks not far from their settlement homes amounted to pre-emptive relation: Hundreds of Hamas operatives in the West Bank were arrested and five young Palestinians killed by Israeli forces responding to violent protests. In the immediate aftermath of the confirmation of the murders, Israel destroyed the homes of the suspected killers and bombarded largely empty fields in Gaza while Hamas leaders went into hiding.

Israel is right to hunt down the two Palestinians who are believed responsible for the killings; to do more and inflict additional mass punishment on the entire Palestinian population is simply to perpetuate the violence and deepen generations-old grievances.

Israel and the West Bank have been relatively quiet during a period of intense turmoil in the region but it was naïve to assume they would stay that way in the absence of serious peace negotiations.

During nine months of talks, Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu never tabled a proposal demarcating possible borders for a Palestinian state, while profiting from cooperation by Palestinian security forces.

The U.S.-mediated negotiations collapsed in April after Netanyahu reneged on a third promised Palestinian prisoner release and the Palestinian Authority leader, Mahmoud Abbas sought recognition from 15 U.N.-related agencies. The final shoe dropped last week when the State Department announced that Martin Indyk, a former U.S. ambassador to Israel, was resigning as U.S. special envoy for Arab-Israeli peace and returning to his Washington think tank.

Recent polls show deepening pessimism among both Israelis and Palestinians about the prospects for a two-state solution. Sixty percent of Palestinians on the West Bank now believe that an Israeli state and a Palestinian state cannot peacefully co-exist. Nearly half – 45 percent – of Israelis agree with them.

Strong leadership could change those numbers. But Abbas is old and thinking about stepping down while Netanyahu wants to stay in power and fears being outflanked by politicians to his right. Meanwhile, the Barack Obama administration appears to have given up. It never put forward its own peace plan, acknowledging that it lacked the political will to try to compel either party to accept U.S. ideas. These days, U.S. officials are more concerned about staving off Israeli objections to a potential nuclear deal with Iran and saving what remains of Iraq than trying to resolve what is still a core issue provoking anti-U.S. and anti-Israel sentiment throughout the region and the wider Muslim world.

Short-termism also infects Israelis, who fear taking any risks for peace and seem to believe that military might alone will preserve their control indefinitely over territory that soon will be neither majority Jewish nor democratic. To rely on military power alone, however, condemns Israel to a never-ending cycle of violence and diminishing international support.

The late Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin used to say that Israel should “fight terrorism as if there is no peace process and pursue peace as if there is no terrorism.” Unfortunately, Israel’s current leaders have forgotten the second part of the equation.

The Palestinian leadership, too, bears responsibility for not confronting a clan that has a history of undermining peace agreements and even acting counter to the direction of Hamas. The murder of the Israeli teens is a major blow to the unity agreement Abbas reached with Hamas last month; how the Palestinian Authority deals with this incident will likely determine the future of that accord. However, an overly aggressive Israeli response will only strengthen groups even more radical than Hamas, and make it more difficult for Abbas to cooperate with Israel in security matters going forward.

As shown by the growth of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIL) – now styling itself hubristically as the Islamic State – the Arab world is seething with anger and frustration. Much of that anger is now playing out in fighting between Arabs. Inevitably, however, Israel and the United States will also be targets. Israeli leaders must think carefully about how they retaliate for the deaths of these unfortunate teenagers, one of whom was a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen. They should not let this tragedy escalate into a larger confrontation that will only embitter and endanger more Israeli and Palestinian young people in the future.


TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: stih

1 posted on 07/01/2014 9:02:05 AM PDT by SJackson
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The Voice of America weighs in.

2 posted on 07/01/2014 9:02:42 AM PDT by SJackson (wish I had known more firsthand about...problems of American businesspeople as a Senator G McGovern)
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To: SJackson
I believe we should consider imposing economic sanctions, “costs” if you will, on the two kidnappers unless they give serious consideration to deescalating their kidnapping activities. That should put an end to it.

If it doesn't, we should consider joining the community of nations in expressing our mild disappointment.

3 posted on 07/01/2014 9:06:56 AM PDT by keat
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To: SJackson

This is not just a simple case of murder of three Israeli kids - this is about a policy of hate perpetuated by Hamas against Israel and all Israelis.


4 posted on 07/01/2014 9:07:30 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: SJackson

“Israel is right to hunt down the two Palestinians who are believed responsible for the killings; to do more and inflict additional mass punishment on the entire Palestinian population is simply to perpetuate the violence and deepen generations-old grievances. “

Another do gooder....Hey Barbara, I doubt you’d be this calm if it were you son or daughter strung up by Hamas...


5 posted on 07/01/2014 9:07:36 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: SJackson

“The Palestinian leadership, too, bears responsibility “

Ya don’t say.........


6 posted on 07/01/2014 9:07:54 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: SJackson
The late Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin used to say that Israel should “fight terrorism as if there is no peace process and pursue peace as if there is no terrorism.”

The demented ratings of a madman, which Rabin certainly was.

7 posted on 07/01/2014 9:09:15 AM PDT by montag813
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To: SJackson
Israel is right to hunt down the two Palestinians who are believed responsible for the killings; to do more and inflict additional mass punishment on the entire Palestinian population is simply to perpetuate the violence and deepen generations-old grievances.

The author is just plain wrong. These people have demonstated time and again they cannot peacefully coexist and share this Earth with civilized people. There was absolutely no cause for the abduction and murder of these kids. What's more, these types of actions occur under the auspice of the Hamas leadership.

8 posted on 07/01/2014 9:13:05 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: SJackson

Voice of America - once a reliable source of the position of American people in international considerations and dealings.

Now the propaganda arm of the Current Regime has turned this kidnapping and murder of three Israeli youths into a pious call for “not overreacting”, when the reaction so far has been of relative restraint. These were murdering and unrepentant members of the Hamas mob, which has not been repudiated by the Palestinian Authority.

The PA may respond, or not, as it wishes, by disassociating themselves with the Hamas terrorists. Should they take the part of Hamas, then they are also part of the target when Israel takes retaliatory measures.


9 posted on 07/01/2014 9:14:37 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd
"This is not just a simple case of murder of three Israeli kids - this is about a policy of hate perpetuated by Hamas against Israel and all Israelis.

Exactly! There isn't a shred of sorrow, remorse or shame from those rabid dogs and their supporters. They're all the same, and should be dealt with that way.

10 posted on 07/01/2014 9:22:01 AM PDT by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: SJackson

Government funding for VOA should end, same with NPR and PBS


11 posted on 07/01/2014 9:22:14 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SJackson

call your Senators and congressman and demand we stop funding the Pally authority.

Abbas sat by and did nothing to find the kids.

The PLO is still a terrorist organization, in 20 years of the peace process they never changed their charter as they promised to under the Oslo accords.

In fact I cannot think of one promise they made that they kept.


12 posted on 07/01/2014 9:23:13 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: montag813

No doubt, the terrorists do the same, albeit in reverse: “Pursue terrorism as if there is no peace process, and fight peace as if there is no terrorism”


13 posted on 07/01/2014 9:24:45 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: SJackson

Once again the people who were abused are asked to stay calm and not seek revenge. When has this policy ever worked? It has never benefited Israel to give in to these people. They had peace for awhile, every time they kicked butt.


14 posted on 07/01/2014 9:37:26 AM PDT by Seabeejas (h)
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To: SJackson
Israel is right to hunt down the two Palestinians who are believed responsible for the killings; to do more and inflict additional mass punishment on the entire Palestinian population is simply to perpetuate the violence and deepen generations-old grievances.

I suppose the reader is expected to agree with this, on the surface, reasonable declaration. But examine it. Isn't the entire Palestinian (a misnomer) population where these wanton killers came from? Were they not inculcated within this population with hate and violence toward Jews from their earliest days? To imply that the Palestinkian (yes, I have a bias) population at large is innocent and should not suffer the consequences of terrorist acts that have their basis in their culture, and by criminals embedded within it, is fatuous.And this embedding often makes it nigh impossible to punish only the perps. I don't agree that it will necessarily perpetuate the the violence and deepen generations-old grievances. Were the Israelis to "go easy" in retaliation for the murders it would not reduce the implacable hate toward them one whit.

15 posted on 07/01/2014 9:37:48 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: SJackson
Israel is right to hunt down the two Palestinians who are believed responsible for the killings; to do more and inflict additional mass punishment on the entire Palestinian population is simply to perpetuate the violence and deepen generations-old grievances.

I suppose the reader is expected to agree with this, on the surface, reasonable declaration. But examine it. Isn't the entire Palestinian (a misnomer) population where these wanton killers came from? Were they not inculcated within this population with hate and violence toward Jews from their earliest days? To imply that the Palestinkian (yes, I have a bias) population at large is innocent and should not suffer the consequences of terrorist acts that have their basis in their culture, and by criminals embedded within it, is fatuous.And this embedding often makes it nigh impossible to punish only the perps. I don't agree that it will necessarily perpetuate the the violence and deepen generations-old grievances. Were the Israelis to "go easy" in retaliation for the murders it would not reduce the implacable hate toward them one whit.

16 posted on 07/01/2014 9:37:48 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: SJackson

Israel, you just sit there and take it! The barbarians are murdering and killing and it’s up to you to not escalate things, got it!?


17 posted on 07/01/2014 9:38:07 AM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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To: luvbach1

Whoops for double click.


18 posted on 07/01/2014 9:39:47 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: SJackson

Typical liberals: “Do not hold us accountable for our actions. We will cry and throw another temper tantrum and call you names.”


19 posted on 07/01/2014 9:40:02 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: SJackson

People are starting to dislike Palestinians ... starting to see them as monsters. They’re coming across more and more like a violent Chicago Street Gang - but without the charm.


20 posted on 07/01/2014 9:48:06 AM PDT by GOPJ (Why no outrage over IRS targeting? Same reason Pravda didn't make a stink about gulags.FREnterprise)
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To: SJackson

Meanwhile, the Barack Obama administration appears to have given up. It never put forward its own peace plan, acknowledging that it lacked the political will to try to compel either party to accept U.S. ideas.

Sissy fails again.


21 posted on 07/01/2014 9:48:24 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: vpintheak

You have condensed it all in a single sentence, thank you! Compassion while your enemy celebrates and laughs? If I were Netanyahu I would be buying up all the napalm and Agent Orange in the world and one night there would be a bubbling circle around Israel. I swear, if this mentality existed during the Bubonic Plague there would be people insisting we be ‘fair’ to the rats and examine them one by one before eradicating them.


22 posted on 07/01/2014 10:10:56 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: luvbach1

Most pallies you say are innocent? Polls taken by Pew indicate that 66 percent agree with kidnapping. Hamas has been elected and reelected several times in Gaza.

The Pally media has always done racial incitement even thought Oslo called for its cessation.

Your just making excuse of the Usual Muslim inability to live in peace.

Most of the PLO came from Arabian Peninsula. Arafat was Egyptian.

There was a petition and Jordan got 70% of the land. That not being enough they attacked Israel and took the west bank
and pissed on the Jewish Temple mount.

In 1967 Israel took back land on its side of the Jordan River.’

There never was a Palestinian country except Jordan. There isn’t a Palestinian people. Its actually a Roman name for what Rome called the land they occupied.

I call them the Fakestinians, a people who didn’t exist prior to Arafat making it up just before OSLO.

I can’t feel bad for people who rejected Olmerts and Barak’s offer of 98 percent of the WB and half of Jerusalem.

The fact is in their charter they want the Jews and Israel destroyed. Their charter is like Hitlers Mein Kampf a roadmap to their intention to exterminate the Jews.


23 posted on 07/01/2014 10:11:28 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: SJackson

Fiasco? Gaza is a toilet that should be flushed.


24 posted on 07/01/2014 10:38:29 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: SJackson

Another leftist commentator pretending to be a journalist.


25 posted on 07/01/2014 10:51:49 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Once a politician has determined to do anything to keep his seat, he no longer deserves it.)
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To: Zenjitsuman

And I believe that Pew poll was done after the kidnapping.


26 posted on 07/01/2014 10:56:49 AM PDT by SJackson (wish I had known more firsthand about...problems of American businesspeople as a Senator G McGovern)
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To: Zenjitsuman
Most pallies you say are innocent?

Please read again. I did not say that. Quite the opposite.

27 posted on 07/01/2014 11:04:38 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: SJackson

They get it wrong right in the headline. This wasn’t a tragedy, it was a deliberate act of evil. People are so used to using that kind of wimpy language, it affects the way they look at things.


28 posted on 07/01/2014 11:20:28 AM PDT by Cymbaline ("Allahu Akbar": Arabic for "Nothing To See Here" - Mark Steyn)
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To: SJackson; GOPsterinMA; KC_Lion; justiceseeker93; NFHale; sickoflibs

My thought is that Israel should hurry up and finish this fight, by any means necessary. “Peace” ain’t happening.


29 posted on 07/01/2014 12:37:55 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: alloysteel

I would never consider over reacting.
I would just find out who the kidnappers were and kill them. Then kill their mothers, fathers, aunts, uncles, children, nephews, nieces, and grand parents on both sides of the families involved.
I would then let it be known publicly that this policy is permanent and will not be altered other than the potential burning of their homes.


30 posted on 07/01/2014 12:45:10 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: SJackson

“An eye for an eye makes us both blind, and besides, you look kinda macho with that patch over the one I took out. Really. The chicks will dig it.”


31 posted on 07/01/2014 1:57:08 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Impy

I agree, there won’t be a possibility of a peace partner for one or two generations after the incitement ends, that starting point not in view. Israel does need to finish, unilaterally, the fate of Judea and Samaria. Gaza if they want it. Can’t really finish the fight given the number of Jew hating Muslims out there, but a separation from the “palestinians” needs to be made, and Iran needs to be dealt with, though that will likely just put the problem off a few years.


32 posted on 07/01/2014 2:09:50 PM PDT by SJackson (government tampers with a freedom so fundamental, one shudders to think what lies ahead. Card Dolan)
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To: GOPJ

The media and academia isn’t. The old Chicago mob was viewed as charming, don’t know about the current lot. But given the popularity of rap, maybe they are in circles I don’t frequent.


33 posted on 07/01/2014 2:12:07 PM PDT by SJackson (government tampers with a freedom so fundamental, one shudders to think what lies ahead. Card Dolan)
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To: luvbach1; Zenjitsuman
I suppose the question you're raising is who to blame for the creation of a violent, hate filled culture. It clearly goes beyond the South Syrians, Egyptians and assorted Arabs who call themselves palestinians, at the same time their government, and my President would refer to it as representative, foments the hate. Some of it with my tax dollars. So while I would generally oppose collective punishment, which Israel doesn't do, and don't particularly like collective blame, the fact is they elected their government, notably Hamas, my countries enemy. You imply, correctly, that this is not a criminal action, rather a military one, and civilian casualties, and inconvenience, are unavoidable. Israel ironically goes to great length to avoid them, and suffers criticism no less. Presuming that means no undertaking necessary military actions for fear of civilian casualties, in the world at large, and particularly in the mid east, "going easy" is perceived as weakness. And the hate will be there in either circumstance.
34 posted on 07/01/2014 2:29:35 PM PDT by SJackson (government tampers with a freedom so fundamental, one shudders to think what lies ahead. Card Dolan)
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To: Impy; SJackson; KC_Lion; justiceseeker93; NFHale; sickoflibs

Yes, “peace” means the attempted ending of Israel.

HaShem will not let that happen; Israel is always protected.


35 posted on 07/01/2014 2:36:56 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA
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To: SJackson

Declare open season on Hamas leadership. No prisoners.


36 posted on 07/01/2014 2:42:47 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Zenjitsuman
The PLO is still a terrorist organization, in 20 years of the peace process they never changed their charter as they promised to under the Oslo accords.

they operate the same way as the boy who would be King in the White Hut -

They'll negotiate as long as they get everything THEY demand. Whenever they don't get capitulated too - They thumb their nose and keep on towards the only goal they've ever had - Take Israel off the map.

You cannot 'negotiate' with people whose one premise & goal is that you should not exist.

O'bummer is ALWAYS chastising Israel and demanding restraint from THEM - NEVER from the Pallies.

Israel should tell O'bummer and gang to stuff it...along with the Pallies. Who the double L are WE to tell Israel what to do?

37 posted on 07/01/2014 3:40:15 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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