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Army Fires Officers After Ordering Them to Move
Fox ^ | June 30, 2014 | Amy Bushatz

Posted on 07/01/2014 8:31:09 PM PDT by george76

The Army last week began notifying about 1,100 captains that they will be purged from the ranks. The same fate is awaiting about 500 majors, who beginning this week will be told their active-duty careers are over. They're among nearly 2,500 officers and NCOs who will be involuntarily separated this year as part of an ongoing drawdown of forces.

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some officers who were let go are scrambling to find a home, as well as a job. Thankfully for the captain who's expecting his first child, his landlord is allowing him and his wife to continue to rent the house at their current location without any hassle. He just wishes the Army gave him more answers.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; bho44; bhodod; purge
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1 posted on 07/01/2014 8:31:09 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty ping.


2 posted on 07/01/2014 8:32:36 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: george76

If you aren’t “openly gay” or an illegal alien or an “openly gay” illegal alien, you’re outta here!


3 posted on 07/01/2014 8:35:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Repeat of ‘91. I knew a guy who PCs’d to Korea, then got told 3 days after he arrived that he was RIF’d.


4 posted on 07/01/2014 8:36:34 PM PDT by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

why are we not ALL in The Streets demanding this ALL STOP NOW??


5 posted on 07/01/2014 8:37:15 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: george76; All

Just another way to make sure the military is O friendly


6 posted on 07/01/2014 8:37:39 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: george76

Hmmmm....This reminds me of the Jimmy Carter days.


7 posted on 07/01/2014 8:38:02 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Jet Jaguar

RIF is tough. Prayers to the families.


8 posted on 07/01/2014 8:38:37 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: george76

“The purge of the Red Army and Military Maritime Fleet removed three of five marshals (then equivalent to five-star generals), 13 of 15 army commanders (then equivalent to three- and four-star generals), eight of nine admirals (the purge fell heavily on the Navy, who were suspected of exploiting their opportunities for foreign contacts),[29] 50 of 57 army corps commanders, 154 out of 186 division commanders, 16 of 16 army commissars, and 25 of 28 army corps commissars.[30]”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge#Purge_of_the_army


9 posted on 07/01/2014 8:40:49 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: george76

Any officer that has been around since Bush is suspect and needs to be purged.


10 posted on 07/01/2014 8:41:44 PM PDT by fso301
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To: CPT Clay

I know 6 close to me that are on terminal leave. They will be out in Aug or Sept.

One needed to be RIF. The others are/were needed in the unit.


11 posted on 07/01/2014 8:43:19 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: george76

In an earlier thread Barry was whining about the GOP and making loud noises about how hard he has been trying to save the middle class.
Those d*!#/ed Eastasians and Emmanual Bush ...


12 posted on 07/01/2014 8:44:33 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: george76

My prayers are with the affected officers/NCOs and their families. These are America’s TRUE best and their readjustment will not be easy. God speed and thank you and your families for their service.

I’d advise affected folks to join and participate in a reserve component. It will help in the transition and will also give you some retirement benefits when you reach age 60.


13 posted on 07/01/2014 8:46:25 PM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

so those that know, is this an astonishing number of officers or routine?......I smell purge...


14 posted on 07/01/2014 8:46:29 PM PDT by cherry
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To: george76

I hope they join the militia.


15 posted on 07/01/2014 8:47:40 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: george76

The fundamental transformation continues.


16 posted on 07/01/2014 8:54:31 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: cherry

Not routine. The budget is the budget for the AF.

We cannot cut from any areas other than jobs any more.

I do not like it. But, Obama will reduce the size of the AF and the rest of the services.


17 posted on 07/01/2014 8:54:49 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: george76

Captains and Majors should form the core of our NEW GOVERNMENT .
America needs to be led by warriors , these warriors , combat experienced warriors . To Hell with clueless civilian political leadership. They have subverted our Constitution and the American way of life .It’s time for them to go. Now!Soon! Before it’s too late. It is almost too late...


18 posted on 07/01/2014 8:57:09 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Jet Jaguar

Well as long as we’ve got money for Gay Pride events and Ramadan feasts at the Pentagon, as well as money to arm and train ISIS and other terrorist groups - and of course, diapers for the disease-ridden unaccompanied children that the regime planned for in January of 2014.... God knows we don’t need soldiers or any of the actually CONSTITUTIONALLY-MANDATED function of the federal government, like protecting us from invasion...

Obama is a foreign enemy combatant. How long before Odierno and all the other top guns realize that and actually do something about it?


19 posted on 07/01/2014 8:58:35 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: cherry

This happens all the time. It happened when I was in the Army in 1970. (not to me) If a soldier is not talented enough to move up in rank, s/he should not stay at that rank for 15-20 years. Make room for other more talented soldiers to move up to their ranks.

It happens in business (up or out). It happens in sports.


20 posted on 07/01/2014 9:00:23 PM PDT by Ecliptic (.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; george76; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy
Of course this order does not apply to women, members of minority groups qualified for Affirmative Action, LBGT people, those who actively support Obama, or former prisoners of jihadists who cooperated with their captors.

This is only fair, as the officer corps and NCO Cadre contains altogether too many possibly useful white men whose very existence causes the above group members to suffer a potential loss of self-esteem.

21 posted on 07/01/2014 9:00:55 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: george76
While we're at it how about a 30-40% cut in federal parasites employees?
22 posted on 07/01/2014 9:01:38 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: butterdezillion

How long before Odierno and all the other top guns realize that and actually do something about it?

Long overdue.


23 posted on 07/01/2014 9:02:06 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Ecliptic

It happens on this scale upon the end of a war (Korea, Vietnam, Cold War) when we shrink the force. What is sad is that we will need them again when Barry’s chickens come home to roost and we need to grow the force rapidly again. Look what happened to Ted Williams and his peers 5 years after WWII


24 posted on 07/01/2014 9:05:53 PM PDT by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: Ecliptic

This article claims it is because of sequestration. The only area of government that actually has to shrink is the military. Everything else gets to keep bloating beyond our ability to EVER sustain it.

At some point the top dogs in the military need to look at how Obama has lifted and helped our terrorist enemies in every way possible, and has shafted Americans - ESPECIALLY in the vital functions that the Constitution mandates, such as military and border enforcement - and realize that Obama is a foreign enemy combatant, put into the White House through the crimes of his puppet-masters for the express purpose of destroying this country from within. And then they need to do something about it.


25 posted on 07/01/2014 9:06:05 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Actually, we have a gay/married/hispanic member is on her way out.

We have Black, White, Brown getting the boot.

The squadron/group/wing level leaders are not saving minortiies from the RIF.


26 posted on 07/01/2014 9:08:18 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: george76

This is being done on purpose by Obama.

May they all join the militia to fight this evil.


27 posted on 07/01/2014 9:08:50 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Jet Jaguar
gay/married/hispanic member

WOW! Three categories at once. The personnel man's dream!

28 posted on 07/01/2014 9:11:59 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: george76

In the late ‘70s, I knew a Major that was coming up on 18 years service. The rule then was you had to be notified that you were being RIF’d prior to the completion of 18 years or you were allowed to stay in until 20 years. He had a buddy working in personnel at the Pentagon who told him he was on the list. The Major went on leave for 45 days, and couldn’t be located until after he had 18 years in.


29 posted on 07/01/2014 9:12:58 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Nifster

I’ve commented prior about the ‘cleaning ranks’...

...this is just more of the same.

I think you’re spot-on.


30 posted on 07/01/2014 9:17:56 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: CPT Clay
RIF is tough. Prayers to the families.

Many of these retirees will have to be brought back as well paid contract workers to keep the systems functioning.

31 posted on 07/01/2014 9:18:51 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: george76

>The Army last week began notifying about 1,100 captains that they will be purged from the ranks.<

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Now why can’t they do the same with government bureaucrats?


32 posted on 07/01/2014 9:19:09 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: george76

What NCO’s are being cut?


33 posted on 07/01/2014 9:21:32 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette
What NCO’s are being cut?

Heterosexual, white, males.

34 posted on 07/01/2014 9:29:59 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (1 For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills. Psalm 50 v 10)
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To: george76
The rank of O-3 (Captain in the Army)is always vulnerable when a RIF comes around. There are just too many of them and too few slots to fill. When you see someone has been a captain for ten years and the like, without promotion, you know they are "supernumerary."
35 posted on 07/01/2014 9:40:42 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Jet Jaguar

Were these regular or reserves on active duty?


36 posted on 07/01/2014 9:52:51 PM PDT by Domangart (Tho I walk Through the valley of Wall Mart, I fear no man.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

we’ll need em.


37 posted on 07/01/2014 9:55:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Domangart

Active officers and enlilted.


38 posted on 07/01/2014 10:02:51 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Domangart

Inlisted.

Correction.


39 posted on 07/01/2014 10:03:58 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: rockrr

Well they are cutting the Border Patrol’s pay by 25% that’s something.


40 posted on 07/01/2014 10:07:07 PM PDT by Ajnin (Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.)
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To: george76

We would like for them to separate in Texas. They’ll like it and we have special programs for vets who separate in Texas.

They are wanted here.


41 posted on 07/01/2014 10:07:51 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: george76
Let's see, is there a upside to all of this? First not only push for illegals to be given amnesty so that they can openly compete with Americans and legal immigrants for the scant jobs in one of the crappiest economies in decades, but then also decimate the military and throw even more job seekers into the mix. And no I didn't forget that mr. mulato is also bringing in tens of thousands more illegals to suck the life blood out of the taxpayers like the leeches they are! Yup that's a whole lot of hopeless change you have brought about mr. mulato, domo arigato you fudge packing cockroach.
42 posted on 07/01/2014 10:30:12 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

“why are we not ALL in The Streets demanding this ALL STOP NOW??”

Haven’t you heard? Dear Leader sez all wars have been “completed”.


43 posted on 07/01/2014 10:34:41 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Jet Jaguar

One more correction: “Enlisted”. :)


44 posted on 07/02/2014 1:33:09 AM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: cherry

It’s not a bloody purge, for God’s sake. Will you clowns calm down? It’s a RIF. People get totally screwed in these every single time. Higher level incompetence nearly assures it.


45 posted on 07/02/2014 2:37:26 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: redlegplanner

“Repeat of ‘91. I knew a guy who PCs’d to Korea, then got told 3 days after he arrived that he was RIF’d.”

Unfortunately, this is typical of any large bureaucratic organization. It happens because lots of different inside organizations are trying to meet their goals and sometimes those goals are at cross purposes. In the corporate world it isn’t unusual for Production to pay $200k to have a machine refurbished and updated only to have that machine sold as scrap at .02 on the dollar a week after it is up and running again. One would hope that there is involved leadership monitoring the inner workings of the various departments but my experience however is that leadership is more concerned with golf and internal politics rather than management.


46 posted on 07/02/2014 2:50:47 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather
"One would hope that there is involved leadership monitoring the inner workings of the various departments..."

ROTFLMAO, far from reality. You are correct in your experience though. This RIF has been delayed twice because of the cluster f this is going to cause. Pentagon gave the Commanders in every branch the numbers to cut without any thought of reconstruction. Medical services got nailed in an area already short staffed for the work the Pentagon paper pushers demand. Hagel and the fools before him are one of the United States biggest trolls who deserve continuous contempt of those still putting their lives on the line.

Just because Hagel served is no excuse for either his incompetence or sycophant political posturing in one of the most destructive Administrations ever in terms creating long-term turmoil due to horrible policies.
47 posted on 07/02/2014 3:22:02 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: george76

Looks like we my have some good officers for the Revolutionary Forces.


48 posted on 07/02/2014 4:38:02 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: george76

Echoes of Stalin.


49 posted on 07/02/2014 4:57:41 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: george76

I went through the 91-94 drawdown in the AF. On the officer side they had to slash mostly O-3s and below. They first riffed all the reserve officers, which was about a third. Then they went after the prior enlisted with 20 years or more with the SERB. Then they reduced the promotion % to Major.

That was still not enough, they waived the service committal for Academy grads and others. They even had a limited 15 year retirement. Personnel has many management tools available to accomplish the downsizing, most are not pretty.


50 posted on 07/02/2014 5:13:04 AM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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