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Guatemalan boy left for better life, died alone
Washington Post ^ | 7/2/14 | AP

Posted on 07/01/2014 11:03:24 PM PDT by DallasBiff

SAN JOSE LAS FLORES, Guatemala — Gilberto Ramos wanted to leave his chilly mountain village for the United States to earn money to treat his mother’s epilepsy.

His mother begged him not to go. “The better treatment would have been if he stayed,” Cipriana Juarez Diaz said in a tearful interview with The Associated Press on Tuesday. When he wouldn’t relent, she draped him with a white rosary for safe passage.

A month later, his decaying body was found in the Texas desert. Now, the boy has become a symbol for the perils faced by a record flood of unaccompanied children from Central America who are crossing illegally into the U.S.

Authorities said Monday that Gilberto was 11, making him one of the youngest known such children to die crossing the desert. He was shirtless, having likely suffered heat stroke, but still wearing the rosary.

“He was a good son,” Juarez said. “May God give me the strength to endure.”

It turned out Gilberto was 15. His parents explained Tuesday that they had taken several years to register his birth because of the remoteness of their village in Guatemala’s northern mountains. When they did, they had forgotten his actual birth date, so they listed the same date as his younger brother.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; gilbertoramos; immigration; obama
What mother would let their child go on such a dangerous trip?

And what person does not know the true age of their child. Is she that dumb?

No wonder central american despots have such an easy time to be in power.

Mrs. Ramos, I'm sorry for your loss, but educate yourself and fix your own country.

1 posted on 07/01/2014 11:03:25 PM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

Maybe folks need to fix El Salvador, rather than trying to dump their problems on us.


2 posted on 07/01/2014 11:05:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DallasBiff

The people who lured him and others to this country under false pretenses have his blood on their hands.


3 posted on 07/01/2014 11:05:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: dfwgator

Or Guatemala.


4 posted on 07/01/2014 11:05:40 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DallasBiff

Just AwFul...


5 posted on 07/01/2014 11:06:00 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: DallasBiff

Notice these people are not all trying to sneak into a Workers Paradise??


6 posted on 07/01/2014 11:06:21 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: DallasBiff

I guess this is another thing Obama and the Democrats should have on their conscience. But they really don’t care about anyone other than increasing their power.


7 posted on 07/01/2014 11:07:57 PM PDT by kaehurowing (FIGHT BULLYING, UNINSTALL FIREFOX)
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To: DallasBiff

Where will they go when the turd-worlding of the United States is complete?


8 posted on 07/01/2014 11:08:32 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: DallasBiff

It’s all white America’s fault!

With their low taxes and refusal to pass gay marriage!

Don’t you feel guilty?

/sarc(?)


9 posted on 07/01/2014 11:08:47 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: nickcarraway

Ultimately yes. Promises that couldn’t/wouldn’t be kept. He’d have had better chances appealing to churches in America to help his sick mother than to physically trek to America on a fool’s errand. But he didn’t know. He was lied to. It’s very hard for me to blame him.


10 posted on 07/01/2014 11:08:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DallasBiff
Have not read the article, but my guess is if the Washington Compost published it, it was eventually an indictment against the US, no matter how subtle the piece reads. Am I wrong?
11 posted on 07/01/2014 11:08:56 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Fungi

Well sometimes it is a liberal axe grinder.


12 posted on 07/01/2014 11:11:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DallasBiff
This is so tragic, this poor woman...

When they did, they had forgotten his actual birth date, so they listed the same date as his younger brother...

Wait, WHAT??

13 posted on 07/01/2014 11:13:41 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: DallasBiff

this is a propaganda piece, its supposed to gin up sympathy for the ‘poor immigrants’.

expect more of this and don’t be fooled.


14 posted on 07/01/2014 11:17:30 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: dfwgator

Well, let’s make sure the bad guys don’t get your home phone number. Stupid reporters.

What is the percentage of the $ they borrowed comparable to their yearly income?


15 posted on 07/01/2014 11:29:25 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: dfwgator

If we want to stop kids from dying in the scorching hot RGV the most effective thing we could do is start shipping them back. Keeping them here looks like success and more will come.


16 posted on 07/01/2014 11:29:58 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: GeronL

“...these people are not all trying to sneak into a Workers Paradise??...”

We should be pressuring Cuba to accept three million of these “workers”. Then they would have the medical and dental care that makes the rest of the world envious.


17 posted on 07/01/2014 11:49:21 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: kingattax

His photos made him look like a little juvenile delinquent.


18 posted on 07/01/2014 11:51:10 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: DallasBiff

A small price to pay for a future permanent Democrat majority.

Mom just needs to suck it up and take one for the team.

/unstated lefty attitude


19 posted on 07/01/2014 11:57:17 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: DallasBiff
The thing that always confuses me about these stories is that first we hear they live in such astounding poverty that there is no toilet and hardly any food. Then a few paragraphs later, they are borrowing $2,600 to pay the coyote.

Who are they borrowing it from, and if someone in their life is willing to loan them $2,600, why can't they have a working toilet? I mean, seriously, what am I missing??

20 posted on 07/01/2014 11:57:52 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: DallasBiff

Just another variant on “if you subsidize something, you get more of it”. One successful immigration begets two more, which beget four more, then eight, and so on.


21 posted on 07/01/2014 11:58:25 PM PDT by Little Pig
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To: nickcarraway

>> The people who lured him and others to this country under false pretenses have his blood on their hands.

Blood, dehydration, disease, and death.


22 posted on 07/02/2014 12:00:02 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: DallasBiff

Like pretty much all of us at one time or another, he shoulda just listened to his Mom. That’s the lesson here. The media, of course, will be working to turn him into the “immigrant Trayvon.”


23 posted on 07/02/2014 12:17:25 AM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: DallasBiff

Obama and crew enticed these people to come with loose talk of “dreamers” and giving illegals citizenship.

This is the result.

Obama and crew have these peoples blood on their hands.

It is as simple as that.


24 posted on 07/02/2014 12:18:37 AM PDT by DB
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To: kingattax
this is a propaganda piece, its supposed to gin up sympathy for the ‘poor immigrants’.

expect more of this and don’t be fooled.


Yep. Give it two-three weeks. So they came up with all this detail and tear-inducing back story, in less than a month? Heroic trek across the desert? With, rosary thrown in for effect, by people who despise all things religious, except teh muzzie crucifiers. Genius!

Leftist heart-string agit-prop. Re-calibrate your bullshit detectors, people.
25 posted on 07/02/2014 12:23:22 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: BunnySlippers
His photos made him look like a little juvenile delinquent.

Nah....just add rosary and ...viola!

Poor, downtrodden care-seeker whose death is on the hands of the tEaParTy!!111!!!eLeBiNty!!!!1
26 posted on 07/02/2014 12:28:00 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: DallasBiff

$120 aweek from older brother builds a house plus more. Where did they get $5,400 to pay for poor boy’s trip?


27 posted on 07/02/2014 12:54:29 AM PDT by amihow
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To: DallasBiff

$120 a week sometimes builds house for family. Where did they get $5,400 for trip?

Borowed it from??????


28 posted on 07/02/2014 12:57:27 AM PDT by amihow
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To: DallasBiff

Well...we have AMERICAN kids here that die alone. Better be worried about them. Please...No monuments or sad songs or speeches about this teen. He made a choice and ended up dead because of it. Being an American citizen is not a human right. Nobodies fault but his own.


29 posted on 07/02/2014 1:28:19 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: DallasBiff
I wonder if that org that has been on TV has something to do with this. Save the children or something like that.
30 posted on 07/02/2014 2:10:29 AM PDT by Domangart (Tho I walk Through the valley of Wall Mart, I fear no man.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Most 15 year olds are still incapable of fully understanding consequences and many have a sense of invulnerability as well. He wanted to help his ailing mother (poor way to do it of course) but I can’t help feeling sorry for the boy.


31 posted on 07/02/2014 3:31:39 AM PDT by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: Dallas59

I’m as anti-illegal immigrant as any here but when it comes to kids I have a natural soft spot. No matter where they happen to be born. Having said that, if had to make a choice I would of course take care of an American child in need before that of a foreigner. We gotta take care of our own first. Wish other cultures understood that!


32 posted on 07/02/2014 3:36:15 AM PDT by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: A_perfect_lady

These are pure blood Indians living in remote mountains in Guatemala. They are living primitively. Most don’t peak Spanish and they sure can’t read or write

How is it that America is somehow responsible for them? To give them a chance to make money here? To live here?

America defeated and subdued the Indian tribes here 130 years ago. Now we are being invaded by Southern Indians and half-Indians who are mestizos.

More than ever wwe need to enforce the Southern Border


33 posted on 07/02/2014 4:22:38 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: DallasBiff

If anyone believes this story, tell them to call me for I have some oceanfront property that I am giving away....FREE!


34 posted on 07/02/2014 4:43:55 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: DallasBiff
Riddle me this, Batman.....how does a boy from a village so remote that it took his parents years to be able to register his birth, somehow know enough about America to make the life threatening decision to leave the only place and people he's ever known? Hmmmmmmmmm........
35 posted on 07/02/2014 4:51:48 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: DallasBiff

I wonder how many children have been pushed across by the Latin American countries looking to empty their orphanages and asylums, juvenile prisons? I also wonder how many Mexican government officials are extorting money from would-be immigrants to get to the border and then across?


36 posted on 07/02/2014 4:59:29 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: DH
If anyone believes this story, tell them to call me for I have some oceanfront property that I am giving away....FREE!

Just pay for shipping, right? I'm on to you.

37 posted on 07/02/2014 5:33:31 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: DallasBiff

The mother “begged” her 11-yr-old son not to go? He was her responsibility and his blood is on her hands, along with our President and whoever else was involved in orchestrating this invasion or children’s crusade against America.


38 posted on 07/02/2014 5:38:56 AM PDT by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: DallasBiff

The mother “begged” her 11-yr-old son not to go? He was her responsibility and his blood is on her hands, along with our President and whoever else was involved in orchestrating this invasion or children’s crusade against America.


39 posted on 07/02/2014 5:40:14 AM PDT by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: DallasBiff

Looks to me that Gilberto’s older illegal alien brother in Chicago, Esbin, is a candidate for prosecution for child abuse, manslaughter as well as aiding and abetting human trafficking.


40 posted on 07/02/2014 6:42:20 AM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: DallasBiff

GILBERTO! I can see Dicky Durbin and Luis Gutierrez yelling his name like a mantra to bang the drums for ‘immigration justice.’ Watch for it.


41 posted on 07/02/2014 6:57:35 AM PDT by montag813
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