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Michelle Howard becomes Navy's first female four-star admiral
CNN ^ | 7/2/14 | CNN Staff

Posted on 07/02/2014 8:36:53 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson

The U.S. Navy has promoted Vice Adm. Michelle Howard to admiral, making her the first female four-star officer in the Navy's 236-year-history, the White House said Tuesday.

Howard, who was the first African-American woman to command a Navy ship, will become vice chief of naval operations, according to her online Navy biography.

"Her historic career is taking a next step today," White House spokesman Josh Earnest said.

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1 posted on 07/02/2014 8:36:53 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

Is she any good?


2 posted on 07/02/2014 8:37:47 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

I don’t know the answer to the question “is she any good”. From what I have read, she graduated from the Naval Academy in 1992. That means she has been a commissioned officer for 22 years. Any Officer that rises to the 4 star rank in that short period of time is very very good OR she, has some powerful political friends.


3 posted on 07/02/2014 8:43:57 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Is she any good?

She won't defy his orders no matter how derelict and unconstitutional. He's replacing all leadership to do that.
4 posted on 07/02/2014 8:44:12 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Oh, and my gaydar went off the charts, of course.


5 posted on 07/02/2014 8:44:54 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson
Perhaps she can make the military more sensitive to the enemy? Maybe she can make it more sensitive to women's, transgender and gay issues?

Wonder what that will do for our Defense?

6 posted on 07/02/2014 8:45:28 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: Old Yeller

You need to get your gaydar calibrated, she’s married to a retired Marine.


7 posted on 07/02/2014 8:47:23 AM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
I don’t know the answer to the question “is she any good”. From what I have read, she graduated from the Naval Academy in 1992.

she graduated in 1982... commanded her first ship in 1999...

8 posted on 07/02/2014 8:47:27 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Any Officer that rises to the 4 star rank in that short period of time is very very good OR she, has some powerful political friends.

Affirmative Action is alive and thriving as Obama works hard to emasculate the American Military.


9 posted on 07/02/2014 8:48:29 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

1982


10 posted on 07/02/2014 8:53:23 AM PDT by larryjohnson (USAF(Ret))
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To: LucianOfSamasota
good on her... she was the first African-American female to command a ship for the Navy... and she is the first female four-star admiral... an accomplishment to be sure...

Commander Darlene Iskra was the first female to command a ship in the USN back in 1990... she retired after 21-years of service... Michelle Howard has had a longer career--by about 11 years thus far... had Commander Iskra continued her career in the Navy, she may have been the first female Admiral... who knows...

11 posted on 07/02/2014 8:56:04 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

As Vice Chief of Naval Operations, the rank is standard for that slot. O-10.


12 posted on 07/02/2014 8:58:04 AM PDT by KC Burke (Gowdy for Supreme Court)
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To: Old Yeller



13 posted on 07/02/2014 8:58:30 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson
“The best ambassador,” she likes to say, “is a warship.”

President Obama nominates the first ever female 4-star Navy admiral (Michelle Howard)

14 posted on 07/02/2014 8:58:49 AM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: MikefromOhio
You need to get your gaydar calibrated, she’s married to a retired Marine.

ha! thank you for that... the expected cringe-worthy comments on here continue to help us earn our label...

btw--i am all for the comments if they are based on something substantial...

15 posted on 07/02/2014 8:59:39 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: latina4dubya

I stand corrected. I could swear the banner going across the Fox news Channel said 1992, but they have made those kind of errors in the past. Thirty two instead of twenty two makes sense.


16 posted on 07/02/2014 9:00:24 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: latina4dubya

Is the Marine gay? Just had to ask! Joking! :)


17 posted on 07/02/2014 9:00:32 AM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Whoa. . .22yrs and a 4-star.

I will look into this as something is very, very wrong if this is true. No one is THAT good. No one. Even the fastest rising star can’t make O-7 until at least 20 years, let alone 4-stars at 22-yrs.

Something is wrong here. . .

I will go look up her bio. .


18 posted on 07/02/2014 9:06:14 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

...As long as she’s not another Holly Graf.


19 posted on 07/02/2014 9:07:54 AM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Here is UN Navy link to their flag bios. . .she is not listed. . .http://www.navy.mil/navydata/bios/bio_list_ret.asp

I will keep looking. . .


20 posted on 07/02/2014 9:08:10 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: latina4dubya

The question can be legitimately asked: Is she promoted because she is good or is she promoted above all others because she is a black female.

Affirmative action and PC now make that a reasonable question and one with merit.


21 posted on 07/02/2014 9:10:07 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Had the wrong link. Here is the correct link: http://www.navy.mil/navydata/bios/navybio.asp?bioID=394


22 posted on 07/02/2014 9:11:21 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson
being that i know nothing about her other than what i read in the article, i looked her up... some of what i found:

Howard was born to former U.S. Air Force master sergeant Nick Howard and his British wife Phillipa. She is married to Wayne Cowles, a retired U.S. Marine... who, btw, is white... i see that no children are mentioned... which is probably some of why she was able to achieve so much...

23 posted on 07/02/2014 9:16:15 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Hulka

We have been at war for at least half that time, but it’s been land wars. In Asia.

A rapid rise, shrinking military, not much room at the top. She may be good but all the fuss about the First African American Woman whatever and the PC and affirmative action goals of our military tend to raise questions.

I have a dream, that one day, someone can be the first ethnic, or the first woman in some position, and no one will notice.


24 posted on 07/02/2014 9:17:17 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: heartwood

“I have a dream, that one day, someone can be the first ethnic, or the first woman in some position, and no one will notice.”

Absolutely.


25 posted on 07/02/2014 9:18:25 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka
Affirmative action and PC now make that a reasonable question and one with merit.

yes--i take no issue with that particular question...

26 posted on 07/02/2014 9:18:27 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Hulka
Whoa. . .22yrs and a 4-star. I will look into this as something is very, very wrong if this is true. No one is THAT good. No one. Even the fastest rising star can’t make O-7 until at least 20 years, let alone 4-stars at 22-yrs.

32 years... not 22...

27 posted on 07/02/2014 9:20:00 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Guilty!!


28 posted on 07/02/2014 9:20:37 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men d)
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To: JaguarXKE

Thanks!

Love yout tagline!!!

may I make a banner using that quote”


29 posted on 07/02/2014 9:28:15 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

is it me, or does she bear a striking resemblance to James Earl Jones?


30 posted on 07/02/2014 9:37:41 AM PDT by General Moroni
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I think it’s the latter. My father was 20 years Air Force, so I don’t know how it is in the Navy, but he retired a full Colonel. He hold me that when you start moving into flag officer territory it’s not just about talent, it’s about playing politics, and the higher you move up, the more politics takes the place of talent. Because 22 years is a reaaallly short time to get to 4-Star.


31 posted on 07/02/2014 9:38:39 AM PDT by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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To: LoneStarGI
I think it’s the latter. My father was 20 years Air Force, so I don’t know how it is in the Navy, but he retired a full Colonel. He hold me that when you start moving into flag officer territory it’s not just about talent, it’s about playing politics, and the higher you move up, the more politics takes the place of talent. Because 22 years is a reaaallly short time to get to 4-Star

They misread her bio. She was commissioned in 1982, not 1992.

32 posted on 07/02/2014 9:40:45 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

As with most flag officers, the more likely reason is the latter. Political connections; true leadership abilities usually have nothing to do with those who are on the fast-track.


33 posted on 07/02/2014 9:42:43 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Is she hot? ;-)


34 posted on 07/02/2014 9:53:27 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The GOP-e scum enlisted Democrats to steal the Republican primary. The GOP-e can go to Hell.)
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To: RJS1950

Anyone going 07 is a political hack.


35 posted on 07/02/2014 9:54:16 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....should' Nuff said!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Ouch. Affirmative Action Admiral. I’ll take bets on that.


36 posted on 07/02/2014 9:54:25 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The GOP-e scum enlisted Democrats to steal the Republican primary. The GOP-e can go to Hell.)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

Did she earn it, or is it affirmative action?


37 posted on 07/02/2014 9:55:04 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

There we have it.


38 posted on 07/02/2014 9:55:49 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

No real argument there though I might give some consideration to some Marine generals. The rest, all got there through the who you know and who you blow paradigm.


39 posted on 07/02/2014 9:56:46 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: JimRed
"Did she earn it, or is it affirmative action?"

I hope she earned it but 20 years ago, that question would have never crossed my mind. Now it's SOP. Thanks, Bill and 0!

40 posted on 07/02/2014 10:02:47 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Uncle Miltie
Ouch. Affirmative Action Admiral. I’ll take bets on that.

Because there is no way in hell that a woman, especially a black woman, could ever possibly succeed on her merits alone. Right? Just can't be done.

41 posted on 07/02/2014 10:04:40 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: RJS1950
No real argument there though I might give some consideration to some Marine generals.

Agreed. Plus Patton.

42 posted on 07/02/2014 10:10:08 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....should' Nuff said!)
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To: DoodleDawg

It’s possible. But in the 0bama Administration, I’ll take bets.


43 posted on 07/02/2014 10:11:19 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The GOP-e scum enlisted Democrats to steal the Republican primary. The GOP-e can go to Hell.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
It’s possible. But in the 0bama Administration, I’ll take bets.

Sure.

44 posted on 07/02/2014 10:17:13 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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45 posted on 07/02/2014 10:17:36 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

No one rises to the 4 star level in 22 years. That doesn’t mean she isn’t good. It does mean, however, that she hasn’t paid her dues.


46 posted on 07/02/2014 10:18:02 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Any general officers appointed to flag rank after the Korean War generally fall into the political brackets.

Patton, Hap Arnold, Vandegrift, Howlin Mad Smith, and many of their contemporaries were leaders in one form or another who rose to their ranks by being competent and ready in a time of need. Others like MacArthur, MacClellan, Pickett,Sickels, were political appointee/self-promoters of the same nature as most of today’s generals.


47 posted on 07/02/2014 10:19:27 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: xzins
No one rises to the 4 star level in 22 years. That doesn’t mean she isn’t good. It does mean, however, that she hasn’t paid her dues.

How about 32 years? She was USNA, class of 1982.

48 posted on 07/02/2014 10:20:35 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

See post #3


49 posted on 07/02/2014 10:24:05 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
See post #3 See her Official Bio
50 posted on 07/02/2014 10:31:56 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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