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Tour de France *** 2014 *** [LIVE THREAD]
Le Tour ^ | July 2, 2014 | Various

Posted on 07/02/2014 12:26:29 PM PDT by Baynative

While the media tries to make soccer into a real sport we are only three days away from the 2014 Tour de France a genuine test of men against men, men against nature, men against elements and men testing their own hearts and will.

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Running from Saturday July 5th to Sunday July 27th 2014, the 101th Tour de France will be made up of 21 stages and will cover a total distance of 3,664 kilometres.

9 flat stages 5 hill stages 6 mountain stages with 5 altitude finishes 1 individual time trial stage 2 rest days

Distinctive aspects of the race

Beyond the borders After taking off from the United Kingdom for a 20th Grand Départ abroad, the Tour de France will also go through Belgium and Spain.

A taste of Paris-Roubaix Before crossing the finishing line of the fifth stage in Arenberg Porte du Hainaut, the riders will have covered 15.4 kilometres of cobbled-stone sectors that are on the course of the Queen of Classics every spring.

1 posted on 07/02/2014 12:26:29 PM PDT by Baynative
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To: Baynative
Re the thread title: 'Tour de France *** 2013 *** [LIVE THREAD]'

Is that a typo or are we a year late?

2 posted on 07/02/2014 12:30:50 PM PDT by ken in texas
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To: Baynative

Yes, fine,, but can they dribble a soccer ball on their head while peddling up the Pyrenees in a cold rain?

Beats WC. Jmo


3 posted on 07/02/2014 12:31:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: nutmeg; whattajoke; Aeronaut; jern; concentric circles; Petronski; Voss; Drango; glorgau; Cecily; ..

Bike Ping

After a scare from PeteB570, I am on track to get the FR peloton rolling. Looking back, the history of the Tour is something remarkable indeed.

Fixed gears, coats and ties –WHOLLY KRAP. These guys were either tough as nails or crazy as peach orchard boars.

Looking forward, this year has enough twists and nuances to make everyone sit up and take notice.

So fill your water bottle, strap on your helmet and join us for 21 days of cycling super bowl in a row.

4 posted on 07/02/2014 12:32:04 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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5 posted on 07/02/2014 12:32:26 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ken in texas; moder_ator
"Re the thread title: 'Tour de France *** 2013 *** [LIVE THREAD]'"

Is that a typo or are we a year late? Aw, gees. I cut and pasted and forgot to change. Mod can you help, please?

6 posted on 07/02/2014 12:33:26 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Baynative

Already done.

FYI there is no “moder_ator”, in the future hitting abuse is most effective.


7 posted on 07/02/2014 12:35:09 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Baynative

and remember, them’s wool pants and jackets, and afterward they’d stop and smoke a few cigs and have a snort or two!


8 posted on 07/02/2014 12:37:15 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Admin Moderator
Thanks much. I not only have no memory, my fingers can't spell.

(Have you guys ever considered an edit function for goof balls like me?)

9 posted on 07/02/2014 12:37:46 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Baynative
test of men against men, men against nature, men against element

And a test of performance lab against performance lab.

10 posted on 07/02/2014 12:38:20 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: Race is his cover...jihad is his game.)
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To: Baynative

Did they ever use wooden t’ars? Solid rubber?

I can only imagine flying down a steep grade and a not so GOodyear letting go..

I ground my chest to a tender raw chunk on gravel chasing my sista in our ‘56 *heavy wagon once. I was a walking scab over a chunk of what was left. But, now they wear protective gear.

Here’s to a safe one!


11 posted on 07/02/2014 12:39:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Baynative

An edit function?

What do you think this is, the IT department at the IRS? ;)


12 posted on 07/02/2014 12:39:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Baynative
a genuine test of men against men, men against nature, men against elements and men testing their own hearts and will...

... men with masking agents against testing.

13 posted on 07/02/2014 12:40:04 PM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Admin Moderator
in the future hitting abuse is most effective

I was warned as a child that hitting abuse against myself could make me go blind.

14 posted on 07/02/2014 12:41:13 PM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Baynative
...we are only three days away from the 2014 Tour de France a genuine test of men against men, men against nature, men against elements and men testing their own hearts and will.

Really? And I thought it was more a test of doped men trying to hide their doping techniques and seeing who was the best at it.

15 posted on 07/02/2014 12:42:37 PM PDT by hecticskeptic (In life it is important to know what you believeĀ….and more importantly, why you believe it.)
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First Chinese at the Tour de France is a «breakaway killer»

After completing the 2012 Vuelta a España, Ji Cheng is the first Chinese cyclist to line up at the Tour de France. He's set to prepare the sprints for Marcel Kittel and John Degenkolb at Giant-Shimano. He'll celebrate his 27th birthday during the first rest day on July 15 in Besançon.

Ji hails from Harbin, a “small” city of 3.3 million people in the province of Hei Long Jiang in the far north east of China near the Russian border. “Our normal climate in the winter is -36°C”, he described. “The record is -55°C but I've not experienced it personally.” A son of a housewife and an interior designer, he comes from a family that contravened the one-child policy that once was enforced in the People's Republic of China. He has a sister and remembers that his parents got fined 3000 yuans (around 370 euros) for the birth of a second child.

“At school, I was a runner and I always won, so I got a chance to enter a sport's school”, the 26 year-old explained. “In 2002, because it was still cold for running in April, I moved to cycling and started on a home trainer. Only one month later, I took part in my first competition on the road: 12 laps around Laoshan, the venue of the Beijing Olympics for track, BMX and MTB. It's been the hardest race in my life. I didn't even have cycling shoes.” He was then assigned to track cycling for the 2005 China Games in Nanjing.

“In 2006, I heard that Shimano wanted Chinese riders for their team in Europe”, he recalls. “They interviewed me and asked if I could cook by myself and speak English. I answered that cooking is my passion and I can learn English, so I joined Skil-Shimano in 2007 and I made Hengelo my home in the Netherlands. You can ask my team-mates: I'm the best chef in the team! My speciality is to cook coca-cola chicken wings.”

“When we started working with this young talent”, explained Giant-Shimano's directeur sportif Rudi Kemna, “we had a long term plan to make him reach the highest level of cycling and that's what he has achieved in playing an important role in the preparation of the sprints”. Ji's usual contribution to the team work consists in pulling the bunch for lengthy hours. A worthy domestique, he's identified and sometimes nicknamed as “the breakaway killer” since he brought the bunch across to escapees on many occasions during the 2012 Vuelta a España at the service of John Degenkolb who won five stages. He also took part in 2013 Giro d'Italia but was forced to pull out with fever after five stages.

“At Giant-Shimano, we know how to control the flat stages”, he said. “Even the riders from other teams like Lotto-Belisol come up to me sometimes and ask: ‘hey Cheng, you're gonna pull?' It seems like everyone likes to follow me. I always ride at 75% of my possibilities, so on hard days, I can push more. I've learnt cycling in Europe. When I first arrived, I was shocked to see people sprinting to corners instead of braking. Chinese riders have a lot to learn here, technically and tactically.”

Regularly followed by TV crews who produced documentaries on his participations to the Vuelta, the Giro and Paris-Roubaix, Ji feels like he's on a mission. “I might not be the most talented cyclist from the country but I want to show everyone that a Chinese can also do the job providing that he acts as a professional”, he continued. “I'm doing these Grand Tours to give inspiration to my compatriots. What I've achieved so far has had some impact back home among the cycling fans but my participation to the Tour de France is gonna be massive for China.”

16 posted on 07/02/2014 12:44:31 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Admin Moderator; kevkrom

Thanks for making me laugh ... both of you.


17 posted on 07/02/2014 12:46:17 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Baynative
Hey BN, happy TdF.

I've been meaning to get up to speed. NBCsn is running a preview show which is airing now (today at 7pm est).

Have any thoughts on the race this year? At first glance there seems to be less mountain stages.

18 posted on 07/02/2014 12:51:30 PM PDT by Vision (Living in beauty)
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To: Baynative

Finished my math homework last night and sat down to channel flick on the TV to cool the brain cells.

Clicked onto 50 and there was some guys on bikes - I was like Crap, that’s a prelim stage of the Tour. Boy did that sneak up on me.

Team Bus got stuck under the finish sign with the riders 10k out, 6k still stuck race officials said photo finish at 3k, riders “What does that look like?” At 5k they got the bus out and said regular finish, crash - top three sprinters are out, crash - another group is out.

The last 30 minutes were crazy last night.


19 posted on 07/02/2014 12:52:58 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Lots of vintage footage here, but you may want to turn off the sound.

:^)

20 posted on 07/02/2014 12:55:14 PM PDT by Disambiguator (#cornedbeef)
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To: PeteB570

Hm, Baynative has reminded me that I must have been watching some dated footage last night.

Stage One in Corsica(?) was when?


21 posted on 07/02/2014 12:58:40 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: PeteB570

2013

Boy, am I out of it this year.


22 posted on 07/02/2014 1:01:10 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Baynative

We have idiots practising for that all year ‘round here in Tucson. They are a hazard to drivers and think they own the G..damn roads! They crowd the edges of the bike lanes and dare you to hit them. Like the nasty nanny they seem to be looking for a way to hit it big with a lawsuit.


23 posted on 07/02/2014 1:02:04 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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24 posted on 07/02/2014 1:02:39 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ah yes, still have very visible scars on my knees from my first (of many) bike crashes going down a hill too fast and hitting gravel.


25 posted on 07/02/2014 1:05:31 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Baynative

I’m not a bicycle guy but I don’t miss this race - the coverage is better every year and these guys are tremendous athletes. It’s almost as good as the Isle of Man TT.


26 posted on 07/02/2014 1:06:34 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Stand your ground.)
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To: Vision
The odds makers have Chris Froome as the favorite, especially with Bradley Wiggens having been dropped by Skye. Richie Porte is back to support him. He's a guy I think could go it alone if need be. Maybe this will take on a little of the soap opera that went on with Pedro Delgado and Miguel Indurain.

Rui Costa is highly rated but, just had a stellar performance in Switzerland and might have peaked too soon. Contador is back and clean (so they say), so who knows?.

We'll soon see. As they say, "That's why they have the race".

27 posted on 07/02/2014 1:09:33 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Don Corleone

Oh sure... Every time I go on a training ride I try to get hit by a two ton mass of metal so I can make some money to enjoy as I roll around in my wheel chair.


28 posted on 07/02/2014 1:19:54 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Baynative
You just know that the riders are 'looking forward' to the pavé of Stage 5 next Wednesday, July 9th. My teeth hurt just looking at the picture below;

Leaders will look to riding the shoulders if possible but the Peloton may not have that ability. When the road wins;

Road rash to the MAX!

29 posted on 07/02/2014 1:41:00 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: doorgunner69

I had a good record on motorcycles, some of my buddies spent time in hospitals, some pretty busted up and lucky.. Memories of me at work and a 750 Honda and a car colliding are still vivid.

Never take a tree on, or car, especially bigger ones.


30 posted on 07/02/2014 1:41:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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And obey traffic lights.

Same guy that crashed into a car, later had a parachute fail, survived both with lots of broken bones.

How about skydiving bike racing?

Better yet.. Tandem


31 posted on 07/02/2014 1:43:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: SES1066
The old axiom about Paris-Roubaix and it's famed cobbles is:"Everyone wants to win it - no one wants to ride it"

It is such a tradition that as the "pavé" sections deteriorate, the cobbles are replaced by hand instead of using asphalt to make the road surface more useable for modern farm vehicles.

32 posted on 07/02/2014 2:32:58 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: NormsRevenge

My history of crashes and two wheeled devices is the joke of our family. From bicycles in the 4th grade on, to motorcycles up to when I was 33 breaking my back, done it all.


33 posted on 07/02/2014 2:35:46 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

I never required traction and major surgery. Whew!


34 posted on 07/02/2014 2:39:16 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Paved road can sure rattle the kidneys , that’s for sure..

What’s the diaper of choice on the tour these days?


35 posted on 07/02/2014 2:41:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Baynative

Here is a cute story since we are still waiting for the Tour to begin. A couple I ride with went to the final stage of the Tour of California this year. After the race they encountered Jens Voigt sitting on a curb being interviewed. They said the interviewer asked him something that made him mad, and one of the things he replied was, “That would be like telling Obama his health care thing is good.” The quote is the way it was explained to me. Anyway, the interviewer was escorted away, and they walked up to say hi. Voigt told them he would autograph anything they had, just don’t ask him to stand up. They didn’t have anything to offer, so they asked him to sign their one-year-old’s shirt. Voigt jumped up, signed the shirt, then spent a few moments playing with the child. I don’t think that kid will ever wear that shirt again.


36 posted on 07/02/2014 2:51:16 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: Baynative

Thanks Bay.

Who’s your favorite this year ?


37 posted on 07/02/2014 3:13:58 PM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Baynative

I have a buddy who’s an avid cyclist (I have to confess I was the world’s slowest Cat 3 for 15 years as well), who traveled to France in the 80’s and drove up to the Arenberg Forest section of the P-R course. He got his bike out of the car, took one look at the pave (a dry beautiful day) and put it back in.


38 posted on 07/02/2014 3:33:58 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Baynative

I like both soccer and cycling, so this summer is the best in a long time for me.

Now if only my Texas Rangers would play better baseball ......


39 posted on 07/02/2014 3:55:15 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Baynative

Froome, since Moviestar did the unthinkable and left Nairo Quintana at home in favour of Alejandro Valverde.

Drugador , er, Contador? Cheat, phony.


40 posted on 07/02/2014 4:19:06 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: Baynative

Pulled my yellow t-shirt out of the closet last night!

Anyone have a map? 9 flat stages seems like a lot.


41 posted on 07/02/2014 5:26:16 PM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Anytime you want to saddle up and have a go at slowest Cat3, just say the word. I had more DFLs than I like to remember and considered just finishing in the pack in Cat3 an accomplishment.

I worked my way up over time through combined Cat4 and Masters 40+ 4/5. I was never a threat in road races with serious climbs because of my size, but I was always competitive in Cat4 Crits and ITT. My mates enjoyed that I could hammer in the wind.

I kind of think Cat3 is just a quick step for Pro1/2 riders to get in a better mix of competition and only guys over 35 stay there for awhile. In one of my early Cat3 circuit races I was completely spit out and abandoned so I didn't have to ride past the finish stand all alone. The humiliation sucked. I couldn't imagine not being able to suck wheels in a 60 rider bunch with no real climbing.

But there was a sliver lining. Our club had been working on bring more people into competition and we had some good younger riders who were capable of giving it a go. I was able to down grade to Cat5 and ride with them as a "coach on course". Those races were honestly the best times I had in USCF.

42 posted on 07/02/2014 5:51:58 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
9 flat stages
5 hill stages
6 mountain stages with 5 altitude finishes
1 individual time trial stage
2 rest days

I love mountain stages with finishes at the top. I've always thought that after several hard climbs a daredevil descender shouldn't be able to chase down the leaders. Yes, I know descending is a tough game, but that's the way I think.

Regardless of where the race stands after stage 16, 17 and 18 can change it all. Stage 17 has four hard climbs stuffed into just 124K. After 50K on the road it will be a brutal tactical couple of hours. If that's not enough, the next day is Col du Tourmalet, and Hautacam in 145K. There will be no pretending on either of these short stages.

43 posted on 07/02/2014 7:02:25 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Baynative
6 mountain stages with 5 altitude finishes - Yay!

1 individual time trial stage - Booo!

I love mountain stages with finishes at the top. I've always thought that after several hard climbs a daredevil descender shouldn't be able to chase down the leaders. Yes, I know descending is a tough game, but that's the way I think.

I agree.

44 posted on 07/02/2014 8:13:27 PM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi; nutmeg; whattajoke; Aeronaut; jern; concentric circles; Petronski; Voss; ...

Bike Ping

TV viewers will feel like being in the middle of the peloton of the Tour de France with revamped graphics, improved air relay and on-board cameras on bicycles this year. The race will be even better to watch!

TEN STAGES WITH FULL LIVE COVERAGE, 90 HOURS IN TOTAL

The 2014 Tour de France will be broadcasted more than the previous one hundred editions of the race as ten stages will be seen in full, which is one more than last year. Ninety hours of live coverage will be supplied to the broadcasters, including the three English stages with an exceptional programming on ITV, simultaneously on ITV1 (UK's number 2 TV channel) and ITV4.

TV viewers will have access to more relevant information thanks to revamped graphics in the live footage. For instance, the slope's gradient will appear during mountain stages. In other circumstances, the strength and direction of the wind will be visible on screen, as well as the instant measure of the riders' speed. Coming close to the finishing line, the remaining distance will be calculated every hundred meters and the maximum speed of the sprinters will be timed by radar. Riders' positions will also be tracked by satellite throughout the race.

Onboard cameras are commonly used in motor sports. They'll make their debut at the Tour de France in a trial over three weeks of racing. Every day, four riders from two different teams will carry an ultra-light camera. They'll turn it on themselves as they'll approach the key moments of the race. After each stage, a video will be edited, published on letour.fr and available for team's websites and broadcasters.

45 posted on 07/03/2014 7:25:14 AM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
"1 individual time trial stage - Booo!"

One of the things I like that Tour de France director Christian Prudhomme has done is the elimination of the stupid and worthless ultra short Prologue TT that was used to set the GC.

By opening with a medium long road race through rolling hills on a potentially windy course team play comes out strong at the beginning. It sort of throws the Yellow Jersey up for grabs and means that it can change hands a few times before the road tilts up.

Then with a 54K TT before the final day it puts the pressure to perform on the shoulders of the leader. I think it makes for asphalt drama.

...and speaking of drama, let's not forget those cobbles


46 posted on 07/03/2014 7:44:57 AM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Baynative

I use this one, lots of links:

http://www.steephill.tv/

.


47 posted on 07/03/2014 9:07:11 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: Baynative

Ji Cheng will most likely be as good for the sport as American riders of the 80s were, especially if he can win a stage.


48 posted on 07/03/2014 11:09:09 AM PDT by golux
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To: Baynative

I’m looking forward to the Yorkshire scenery.


49 posted on 07/03/2014 11:31:50 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: golux

Several reports say he can hammer and is a great lead out man. That sometimes means he is a capable number 2 in sprints if his man gets boxed in and he has breakaway ability.


50 posted on 07/03/2014 11:44:42 AM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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