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Republicans must look to Cleveland to expand 2016 presidential chances
Washington Examiner ^ | July 2, 2014 | Brett M. Decker and Van Hipp

Posted on 07/02/2014 3:23:47 PM PDT by TigerTown

Republican National Committee officials announced recently that the party's nominating convention for the next presidential election will be held in Cleveland or Dallas. “These world-class cities have the ability to provide our next presidential nominee a launching pad that will put a Republican in the White House in 2016,” said site-selection chairman Enid Mickelsen.

Given the ultimate goal, the GOP's big bash should be in Ohio. A lot more than one election is riding on the next campaign for the Oval Office. After losing the popular vote in five of the last six presidential contests, many of the Republican faithful are wondering whether the party establishment is still capable of winning nationally.

In recent years, Republicans have been adept at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, losing to President Obama in 2012 even though his job-approval rating was below 50 percent, and failing to take back the Senate in 2010 or 2012 despite favorable odds. The Grand Old Party will lose again if it doesn't do something differently. The Dallas area is a conservative stronghold, but the GOP is assured of winning Texas in 2016.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; election; presidential; republican
The South is not enough. The GOP must venture into the Midwest to win in 2016.
1 posted on 07/02/2014 3:23:47 PM PDT by TigerTown
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To: TigerTown

The Cleveland Browns

RACIST!


2 posted on 07/02/2014 3:29:41 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: TigerTown; ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; ...

Ohio Ping


3 posted on 07/02/2014 3:40:39 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

seeking leftist votes by moving left, is not a winning strategy


4 posted on 07/02/2014 3:42:30 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TigerTown; Liz; AT7Saluki

How about Detroit? Leftist ruination examples abound AND it would be a boost to the local economy.


5 posted on 07/02/2014 3:43:30 PM PDT by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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To: TigerTown

They need to secure their own base before reaching out to leftists


6 posted on 07/02/2014 3:44:12 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TigerTown

Lemme see if I understand this.

If the republicans have their convention in Cleveland, the republican candidate will win Ohio in the presidential election.

Bwa-hahaha.


7 posted on 07/02/2014 3:45:04 PM PDT by Walrus (I love the America that used to be ---I hate the America that now IS!)
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To: Libloather

They did that in 1980.


8 posted on 07/02/2014 3:48:35 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: GeronL

Ohio is not leftist.


9 posted on 07/02/2014 3:48:36 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement. xtr)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
The 1980 National Convention of the Republican Party of the United States convened at Joe Louis Arena in Detroit, Michigan, from July 14 to July 17, 1980. The 32nd Republican National Convention nominated former Governor Ronald W. Reagan of California for President and former congressman George H. W. Bush of Texas for Vice President.[1] Reagan, running on the theme "Make America Great Again," stayed in Detroit's Renaissance Center, at the time the world's tallest hotel, and delivered his acceptance speech at Joe Louis Arena.[2] It remains the only major party national political convention to have been held in Detroit.

Sounds good to me.

10 posted on 07/02/2014 3:54:20 PM PDT by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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To: TigerTown

Cleveland is OK. Dallas is OK.

The city isn’t the issue.

The issue is the GOP-E losing the conservative base of the party.


11 posted on 07/02/2014 3:57:50 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: TigerTown
Cleveland's a good idea. With a convention that large, everything else "downtown" will pretty much stop and the city will be totally taken over by the converntion. There's plenty to do. I'd think it will be totally safe....Cleveland's been doing a good job with conventions getting positive accolades.

Besides which, Dallas gets really hot in the summer.

12 posted on 07/02/2014 4:00:15 PM PDT by grania
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To: TigerTown
In recent years, Republicans have been adept at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, losing to President Obama in 2012 even though his job-approval rating was below 50 percent, and failing to take back the Senate in 2010 or 2012 despite favorable odds. The Grand Old Party will lose again if it doesn't do something differently. The Dallas area is a conservative stronghold, but the GOP is assured of winning Texas in 2016.

In the minds of the voters, the site of the convention won't amount to a hill of beans. It's what goes on at the convention that is important. Had the Tea Party not been totally and completely excluded from the 2012 GOP National Convention, maybe more Tea Partiers would have gone out and voted in the November election.

13 posted on 07/02/2014 4:03:49 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: grania

Dallas would be interesting: the end of Rick Perry and Dewhurst.


14 posted on 07/02/2014 4:12:51 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: TigerTown
The South is not enough. The GOP must venture into the Midwest to win in 2016.

2012 Tampa, FL GOP lost the state
2008 Minneapolis, MN GOP lost the state
2004 New York, NY GOP lost the state
2000 Philadelphia, PA GOP lost the state
1996 San Diego, CA GOP lost the state

Having the convention in Cleveland is no guarantee that they'll take Ohio.

15 posted on 07/02/2014 4:22:57 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: TigerTown

There’s talk that Columbus is in the running for the Democrat convention. When was the last time both conventions occurred in the same state?


16 posted on 07/02/2014 5:11:45 PM PDT by MadeInOhio
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To: TigerTown
The Grand Old Party will lose again if it doesn't do something differently.

How about nominate a genuine conservative and court disaffected white voters.

17 posted on 07/02/2014 6:09:48 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: xzins

The way conventions have been staged over the last 30 or so years, they might as well be held in some TV studio. Nothing unscripted ever happens anymore. There are no more floor fights, no more arguments over platforms, and absolutely zero suspense over who will win the nomination.

Frankly, conventions are a big snooze today. The decisions have all been made long before. IMHO, they are a waste of time and money, and just an excuse for folks to go out of town and party.


18 posted on 07/02/2014 6:44:57 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: MadeInOhio

1972 I think, Miami (FL, not OH)

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781449.html


19 posted on 07/02/2014 6:48:39 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: grania

” I’d think it will be totally safe.”

Eh, not so much, I believe. No more than a couple years ago, a security guard was about to escort some ladies from a theater in the Playhouse Square area across to the parking areas. She was purported to say, and I paraphrase, “if you hear any gunshots, just keep down, and keep moving”.

Dropping Pubes into Cleveland would be asking for trouble, imho. To me, it smacks of another stupid move by the RNC.


20 posted on 07/02/2014 8:32:06 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: TigerTown

These two reporters don’t know what the hell they are talking about! Dallas is a Democrat stronghold; NOT Conservative!

Dallas, Austin, San Antonio and Houston are all Dem and sanctuary cities for illegals!


21 posted on 07/02/2014 10:03:56 PM PDT by octex
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To: xzins
Cleveland is OK. Dallas is OK. The city isn’t the issue. The issue is the GOP-E losing the conservative base of the party.

Exactly, but so far I don't see any signs that the GOPe will change.

22 posted on 07/02/2014 10:07:30 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Dallas would be interesting: the end of Rick Perry and Dewhurst.
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Huh???? ....Both are serving out their last terms.


23 posted on 07/02/2014 10:28:17 PM PDT by octex
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To: octex

That’s what I mean. The end of the attacks on the heartless we saw from Perry in 2011-2012. When he was in office he could at least pretend to have a mandate to pander to illegals.


24 posted on 07/02/2014 10:36:53 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

It is a good thing Cincinnati wasn’t picked. There’d be too much anger about Boehner.


25 posted on 07/02/2014 10:38:54 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Moonman62

Same here. They should be putting the brakes on the candidacy of Thad Cochran, but at this point, they aren’t.


26 posted on 07/03/2014 12:27:45 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Ditto

Well, this looked pretty unscripted at the DNC.

http://youtu.be/2HUJO0MZOzs


27 posted on 07/03/2014 3:17:37 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: grania

Personally, I think they are insane to bring a convention of the RNC here. Democrat stronghold, union base auto & steel workers...ever look at the electoral map for Ohio?

There’s a reason Ohio has been “democrat” and it ain’t the rest of the state!

Lots to see and do and be safe? They’ll need special security details to move around here due to the democrat nutcases!

a. I would never dare venture downtown for an RNC event of this size. Way too, too dangerous.

b. I would rather drive to Columbus, Cinci, anywhere else to attend

Sorry to all those RNC Clevelanders, but dang...don’t be so pollyanish! This can do nothing but go very badly for the RNC.


28 posted on 07/03/2014 3:28:07 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: EBH
re: Cleveland

In the last few years, Cleveland hosted Special Oympics and Senior Olympics. "Downtown" was totally safe and participants had nothing but praise for the events.

The mayor has done a great job getting money spent on projects to make the city convention-ready. There was next to no population in that part of the city, now some high-income condos and apartments have even turned that around. The city has a good working relationship with (republican) Gov Kasich, so would not be alone in keeping things safe.

As far as winning over the state? Ohio is always very close in presidential elections, and turning a few thousand votes to the Republican side would make a difference. It's possible, since Obama hasn't done anything to help this area.

I know Cleveland bashing is fun, and a percentage of it is deserved. But as far as the convention being here?....there's a reason the RNC people evaluating possibilities have been impressed.

29 posted on 07/03/2014 3:43:38 AM PDT by grania
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To: MadeInOhio
When was the last time both conventions occurred in the same state?

1972. Both the Democrats and the Republicans held their convention in Miami.

30 posted on 07/03/2014 3:56:57 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: GeronL

How is holding a convention in a key swing state “moving left”?


31 posted on 07/03/2014 3:58:26 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: grania

Sorry grania, we’ll have to disagree.

Hosting the Special Olympics etc. is not like hosting a hotbedded political presidential convention...

Protestors, violence and all right in the very heart and stronghold of the democratic base in Ohio. If you think the Cleveland Police are ready to deal with such matters...I’ve got some land to sell you at Burke Lakefront.

This is a foolish choice.

On that note...we’ll have to just disagree.


32 posted on 07/03/2014 6:07:48 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: EBH

Yes, and any missteps or controversies will be magnified by the massive coverage local media will give the thing.

It’s a high-risk/high-reward proposition. If it goes perfectly it’ll help in Ohio. If the Dems stir something up, and it’s undeniable that they did, it’ll help.

But if something goes wrong? Not good. The way things are going I’d expect the Dems to infiltrate to take advantage of that. All it takes is one or two Dems successfully pretending to be convention-going neo-Nazis or Klan members or something and doing a local interview or two that conforms to the slanderous right-wing stereotypes the Left has been and is peddling to completely screw things up.


33 posted on 07/03/2014 6:19:54 AM PDT by tanknetter
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