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Report: Climate change confirmed in national parks
Central Valley Business Times (CA) ^ | July 2, 2014

Posted on 07/03/2014 4:47:26 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Climate change is happening in America’s national parks, and in some cases in rapid and concerning ways, says a new report authored by the National Park Service.

The changes will have implications for what visitors see and experience and will require new approaches to the protection of natural and historic resources within parks, the report says.

“This report shows that climate change continues to be the most far-reaching and consequential challenge ever faced by our national parks,” says National Park Service Director Jonathan Jarvis. “Our national parks can serve as places where we can monitor and document ecosystem change without many of the stressors that are found on other public lands.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climategate; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; hoax; socialism; weather

1 posted on 07/03/2014 4:47:26 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

so what was the Dust Bowl? Was that a drought or was that climate change? What caused the potato famine that helped populate the United States? What caused the flood that Noah built the Ark for, was that climate change? Were the people eating too much and having too many bonfires? Where does it all end?


2 posted on 07/03/2014 4:50:30 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yes climate change is happening. I was in the park near me here in New York last December and it was cold and now in July inexplicably it’s hot. Just like Al Gores movie “An inconvenient lie” where he shows these Italian mountains in the winter covered in snow and then in the summer where the snow is melted and flowers are blooming, obvious climate change!


3 posted on 07/03/2014 4:52:44 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I suppose when these idiots who spend the majority of their lives in air conditioned cars , offices and homes just happen to take a walk down the street, their climate is changing. Imagine that, summer is upon us and one of them takes their Mercedes trip to Yellowstone and all of a sudden figures out it is warmer out of the car than it is in.


4 posted on 07/03/2014 4:53:21 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What a joke these people are. I know, let’s give money to Al Gore. He’ll fix it and will help fund his next multi-million dollar condo purchase on a beach (you know, where the ocean is gonna gobble it up because of melting ice).


5 posted on 07/03/2014 4:53:26 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well, fortunately, I don’t live in a National Park, so it’s OK for the climate to go ahead and change there. Glad they finally have it isolated. /sarc


6 posted on 07/03/2014 4:55:13 AM PDT by Tuxedo (Forget Gold - buy Lead!)
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To: WKUHilltopper

I thought the debate was over... Shouldn’t this all be assumed? Why are the forces that be still trying to convince me then?


7 posted on 07/03/2014 4:55:49 AM PDT by skams19
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Bump


8 posted on 07/03/2014 4:56:17 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The climate is continually changing. If it didn’t something would be very wrong. Some of the national parks exist in great measure due to past changes in climate on a vast scale.

Take for example the following from Wikipedia:

Mesa Verde National Park is a U.S. National Park and UNESCO World Heritage Site located in Montezuma County, Colorado, United States. It is the largest archaeological preserve in the United States.[3] The park was created in 1906 by President Theodore Roosevelt to protect some of the best-preserved cliff dwellings in the world, or as he said, “preserve the works of man”. It is the only cultural National Park set aside by the National Park System.[4] It occupies 81.4 square miles (211 km2) near the Four Corners and features numerous ruins of homes and villages built by the Ancient Pueblo peoples, sometimes called the Anasazi. There are over 4000 archaeological sites and over 600 cliff dwellings of the Pueblo people at the site.

The Anasazi inhabited Mesa Verde between 600 to 1300, though there is evidence they left before the start of the 15th century. They were mainly subsistence farmers, growing crops on nearby mesas. Their primary crop was corn, the major part of their diet. Men were also hunters, which further increased their food supply. The women of the Anasazi are famous for their elegant basket weaving. Anasazi pottery is as famous as their baskets; their artifacts are highly prized. The Anasazi kept no written records.

By the year 750 the people were building mesa-top villages made of adobe. In the late 1190s they began to build the cliff dwellings for which Mesa Verde is famous.
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By 1300 AD prolonged drought had caused the fragile adaptation to collapse and the Mesa Verde area was abandoned. The surviving Mesa Verde people retreated to the south and east.

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesa_Verde_National_Park

As with everything liberal, he who controls the meaning of words or even why we are having the conversation in the first place, controls the outcome of the debate. This has never been more true than in the case of Global Warming, er, now called Climate Change.

I am waiting for some climate scientist to publish a paper on what the optimum climate is for our biosphere. The first question that would naturally flow would be where is our current trend in relation to this finding.

That nobody seems interested in this vital comparison indicates that there climate is being studied for other purposes. Since all the urgent demands that flow from today’s climate science all converge on policy solutions that involve statism, bigger government, higher taxes, less personal liberty, the bigger picture tells me all that I need to know about “climate science”.

I am also curious about how deep the ice got during the last of several periods of glaciation of the northern hemisphere, but that is a question for another time.


9 posted on 07/03/2014 4:57:20 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Park Service people want to keep their jobs and know which side their bread is buttered on.


10 posted on 07/03/2014 4:58:09 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (Repeal it.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
National Park Service scientists William Monahan and Nicholas Fisichelli studied climate data of the last 10-30 years as compared to the historical range of variability from 1901 to 2012 from 289 national parks. They found that temperatures are now at the high end of the range of temperatures measured since 1901.

National Park Service scientists William Monahan and Nicholas Fisichelli studied the fake climate data of the last 10-30 years as compared to the historical range of variability from 1901 to 2012 from 289 national parks. Confirming the original goals of the pseudo study, They managed to manipulate the temperatures so that they are now at the high end of the range of temperatures measured since 1901.

There, fixed it.

11 posted on 07/03/2014 4:58:58 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: MulberryDraw

Exactly.


12 posted on 07/03/2014 4:59:55 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This report shows that climate change continues to be the most far-reaching and consequential challenge ever faced by our national parks

Of course... nothing about the fact much of our National Park land is under occupation by Mexican drug cartels.

13 posted on 07/03/2014 5:00:28 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The people who have a vested interest in a carbon trading exchange in Chicago will not take no for an answer. Too much money at stake.


14 posted on 07/03/2014 5:00:47 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
National Park Service scientists William Monahan and Nicholas Fisichelli ... found that temperatures are now at the high end of the range of temperatures measured since 1901.

They're government employees. This is called "singing for your supper."

15 posted on 07/03/2014 5:02:07 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Here are even better locations. This is believable.

Headline?

University campuses, federal office buildings ideal locations to confirm..
Global Disruption Caused by White American-European Men
This will end all dispute, say advocates. "Or else."

16 posted on 07/03/2014 5:04:40 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

“Global Disruption Caused by White American-European Men”

Women, children, and minorities hardest hit


17 posted on 07/03/2014 5:11:40 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I have railed for years that climate change can be noted and actually has been noted by the NPS.

Specifically, I cite the plainly visible evidence at the Exit Glacier on the Kenai Peninsula of Alaska where the warming progress has been tracked by the government for 118 years. As you approach the visitors center, you see a sign noting the toe of the glacier in 1896. That sign is 2 miles away from the current glacier toe. As you progress toward the center and the short walk to the glacier's edge you encounter other signs tracking the recession over the years.

So, the fact that the glacier has receded is very plainly seen. For the Kenai area, there has been warming compared to past ages. Since the process has been noted for at least 118 years, the cause can not be attributd to current increase in CO2 levels. The change can not be attributed to man or cars or coal power plants or etc etc.

The Exit Glacier and the signs and the NPS tracking put lie to all the hoax.


18 posted on 07/03/2014 5:18:05 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Climate change is happening in America’s national parks”

No, you have idiots on the govt. dole working (questionable) in these parks. Greenies galore.


19 posted on 07/03/2014 5:31:33 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Q: How can you tell when tree-huggers are lying?

A: Their lips are moving.


20 posted on 07/03/2014 5:32:27 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Climate change happens, that is not denied. The CAUSE of climate change, though, is often wrongly attributed to the activities of mankind.

Of all the factors that may affect climate on a relatively low level, perhaps heat “pollution” is one of the greatest, far greater than whatever “greenhouse” effect carbon dioxide may have. Water vapor, which has approximately the same heat absorption characteristics as carbon dioxide, exists in FAR greater quantities in the atmosphere at any one given time. Because of the nature of water, a rather unusual compound which can exist in all three states of matter (solid, liquid, and gas) simultaneously, and the enormous heat-carrying capabilities of water in all its forms, there is a powerful homeostatic effect on the temperatures of both our surface waters and our atmosphere, keeping it within a fairly narrow range.

When the solid form of water, ice, melts, it requires an astonishing amount of heat, some 80 calories of energy per gram, at 0 degrees Centigrade to become the same weight, 1 gram, of water at 0 degrees Centigrade. When the water is warmed 1 degree Centigrade, it takes about 1 calorie of heat per gram. To warm water to 100 degrees Centigrade, then, would require 100 calories per gram, at which point all water is converted to water vapor. The conversion of one gram of water to one gram of water vapor requires some 540 calories of heat per gram. So the melting of ice and the evaporation of water have HUGE potential for transferring heat. When the process is reversed, water vapor condenses to water, then the water is frozen to ice, all this heat that was absorbed is given up.

Now, water does not have to be heated all the way up to 100 degrees Centigrade to become water vapor. Water vapor may sublimate directly from ice to water vapor, though very slowly. Each degree water is heated, a greater and greater amount of it converts to water vapor, so on warm days there is more evaporation than on cool days.

But you knew that.

Mankind, even with its most strenuous efforts, can change no more than a tiny bit of this continuous heat exchange that is overwhelmingly dependent on the changing state of matter relative to the water molecule. We can, and have, harnessed this effect of heat exchange through the medium of water, to generate our power and extend the science of feeding ourselves through agriculture and manufacture of various products to serve useful purposes.

Those useful purposes utilize both the generation of heat, and the absorption of heat, to the degree that the overall impact is just about a zero effect in relation to the much more vast heat transfers that take place in nature WITHOUT the intervention of mankind.


21 posted on 07/03/2014 5:32:29 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: theBuckwheat
what the optimum climate is for our biosphere

A mile of ice over the Obama's residence sounds about right. Alas that missed by about 20k years.

22 posted on 07/03/2014 5:32:56 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m glad it’s limited to just the National Parks.


23 posted on 07/03/2014 5:48:34 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
There is no catastrophic global warming going on. The author needs to educate themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyUDGfCNC-k

24 posted on 07/03/2014 5:50:14 AM PDT by Vision (Living in beauty)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Of all the CO2 created on earth per year the entirety of human activity, all of it accounts for less than 3% of it... The idea of Anthropomorphic global warming is laughable on its face.

Yes is CO2 a greenhouse gas? Yes.. Do you know what else is and has a far greater greenhouse effect? Water Vapor.


25 posted on 07/03/2014 5:58:25 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: MulberryDraw
Park Service people want to keep their jobs and know which side their bread is buttered on.

Bingo, we have a winner! You are without a doubt 100% correct.

26 posted on 07/03/2014 6:05:54 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Yeah, it's called "summer" and it's thing we do here about the same time and more or less the same way every year.

You'd think these educated types would have heard of it.

Instead, these crazy Global Warming people make this stuff up as they go, only to have to correct themselves later once the hysteria they're taking wears off:

NOAA Reinstates July 1936 As The Hottest Month On Record

27 posted on 07/03/2014 6:06:54 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I asked a lib once upon a time: “Is global warming worse in the summer or winter?”

I was quite amazed first that he answered “Summer” without pause or awareness of the sarcasm in the question, but was more amazed he spent the next 10 minutes explaining it was worse in Summer because it is hotter.


28 posted on 07/03/2014 6:08:56 AM PDT by IamConservative (If fighting fire with fire is a good idea, why do the pros use water?)
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To: yldstrk

You have to give all these appointees credit. They are definitely of one voice. They all speak Booshit.


29 posted on 07/03/2014 6:24:04 AM PDT by CARTOUCHE (9999 EOM)
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To: mazda77

“I suppose when these idiots who spend the majority of their lives in air conditioned cars , offices and homes just happen to take a walk down the street, their climate is changing.”

That is the key as to why it was changed from “Global Cooling” to “Global Warming”.

As more and more people began working indoors with AC, when they left work the heat hit them like a ton of bricks.

Also more and more people began getting central AC and heat in their houses the temp was always the same.

Dress to go outside when its cold and you take some of the warmth from inside outside with you, not so with heat.

Dress to go outside when it’s hot, the cool from inside doesn’t go outside with you.

In the late 70’s, when global cooling was still popular, a lot of people from the northern states moved to Texas and they were the first ones I heard say it wasn’t global cooling but global warming because they weren’t used to the Texas summer heat.


30 posted on 07/03/2014 6:26:47 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

Want to fix out national parks? Get rid of the national park service. As a matter of fact, if you want to fix anything that is hurting our country, get rid of the agency responsible for maintaining it.


31 posted on 07/03/2014 6:49:28 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Once a politician has determined to do anything to keep his seat, he no longer deserves it.)
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