Skip to comments.The Great Pacific Garbage Patch Hoax
Posted on 07/03/2014 6:49:39 AM PDT by rktman
..... In support of bag bans, the Surfrider Foundation has posted a video that asserts, "Plastics kill 1.5 million marine animals each year."
"I have no idea where they got that number," Joel Baker, environmental science professor at the University of Washington, Tacoma, told me. He has assigned students to track down that number, and "the trail goes cold." ....
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I researched this after a conversation with a student going door to door collecting to save the dolphins and to my surprise found the truth is very far from the mountain of plastic bags and foam cups the size of Texas floating in the mid Pacific the kid described.
Maybe they are counting zooplanktons and other micro-organisms?
Maybe PETA will take up the cause, I have been waiting for years for them to stand up for Yersinia Pestis’ rights.
Unfortunate that people believe fear mongering hype regarding this B.S.
Just yesterday had a client, while out fishing with me, ask me about all the “trash” floating in the water and asked if it was from Japan.
I explained what he was looking at was kelp and floating wood.
Seriously, I feel as if I spend more of my time re-educating people about facts vs hype rather than focusing on fishing.
I did the same thing if Florida years ago when some young skull full of mush came around collecting. After a few questions to him about the issue, it was painfully obvious that he knew nothing about it. I don’t know if I changed his mind or pointed him in a direction to do some looking of his own but I could hope I did.
Has anyone produced an actual photo of this mythical mountain of plastic. Apparently it is big enough to be seen from space.
Straight out of arse.
Google Earth it.
I once found a bunch of trash on the Oregon coast; a lot of plastic bottles and containers from some Asian country. I don’t know how it got there.
and these same scientific illiterates have no problem slaughtering eagles, other birds, and bats by using their environmentally questionable, inefficient wind farms and killing people by forcing car companies to build lighter cars for efficiency.
Completely different topic, but I believe they found the same thing with the classic "You should drink 8 glasses of water a day". There is no basis for this. It may be a good idea, but there is no data which supports that number. It's just something people say.
A lot of what passes for science isn't science.
That Oregon coast is some of the most beautiful country on this earth.
I give anything for cars built without all of the electronics and safety BS, made of steel. They’d be simpler, easy to fix, and more fun to own.
I saw a ‘28 Model A for sale this weekend for 18,500. the engine was so simple anyone could repair it themselves. A simple car could likely be manufactured and sold for a small fraction of what new cars go for today.
The New England Journal of Medicine printed the “8 glasses of water a day” line in a study they did. It went on to point out that anything with water in it can be counted. Juices, coffee, tea and even cokes. But for some reason that part was never reproduced. Probably omitted by anti-capitalists. And as you know, doctors believe anything they read but they don’t read everything. They’re still pushing the low fat diet crap.
I recently had a urologist tell me 64 oz of water a day is way too much.
If they were in the engineering program that term would be referred to as SWAG (stupid wild ass guess)!
While my wife's urologist tells her that "it's almost impossible to drink too much water"
She easily drinks 6 to 8, 500Ml plastic bottles a day.
LOL! In my 36 years working of the space shuttle, there were more SWAGs than I can count.
Sorry. Disagree on this one. Have a good friend in merchant marine and over the years he has talked about, and shown me evidence of, the ruining of the ocean. I’ve also done a mountain of reading on this. This is killing the oceans.
Now of course, the Left will use these facts to do something bizarre, but that doesn’t make the underlying facts untrue
Not everything to preserve the environment is hugging a tree.
Perhaps student are learning what they are taught about doctoring data to fit your agenda.
From the Florida Math Assessment test for 7th graders:
creating data to match your hypothesis.
Sometimes that’s all you have to go on and it leads you in the direction for the proper solution. Afterall, as engineers, and not scientists, that’s what they pay us for!
80% of all statistics are made up, on the spot.
What!!!??? ... another leftist myth down the tubes? Lefties start these things, and they become “proven” facts in no time. My own study says 99% of leftist speech results in gaseous emissions that are harmful to at least 95% of humanity. Ban leftists is my solution. Let them try to disprove my uh scientific study.
It’s the seriousness of the charge rather than the nature of the evidence.
Many years ago I had an argument with a woman who claimed that you had to drink pure water (no juices or other drinks) to get water. I told her every drink is largely composed of water. She wasn't sure about that, she thought she heard that they didn't count. Some time later she saw me and admitted I was right.
While there is no doubt that the trashy oceans are a problem, the left likes to enhance their “findings” to make the problem appear more, uh, problematic.
Leftists make their own mess by exaggerating everything from global warming, population growth, plastic in the ocean, sex assaults on college campi, and virtually everything else. They are incapable of telling the truth about a matter.
“a woman who claimed that you had to drink pure water (no juices or other drinks) to get water. “
Did she also sign the petition to ban di hydrogen monoxide?!
And to think these people are allowed to vote!
I.7 BILLION diatoms can fit into one plastic water bottle, with Perrier being the worst. This is settled science. But one simply must have a couple of these bottles tucked into the Spandex ... it's just that the peasants and Conservatives must be encouraged not to use them
Should the line connecting the points be positively or negatively sloped? Maybe the fish are being endangered by a food source that causes obesity.
currents are clockwise in the northern hemisphere
Other than the occasional sip from the school drinking fountain, I don't recall EVER drinking water at home.
We had our own well and it was iron water.....awfull tasting stuff.
I grew up with that kind of well water, but got used to it. I did not have my first dental cavity until I was in my late 50s. The dentist said the minerals in the water may have had a lot to do with that.
Nor is your "gut feelings" or the biases based on your familiarity/ignorance of science or interest therein.
The excesses and perversions of science by a surplus of enthusiasm and political correctness, based on nothing, has been painfully evident in the last couple of decades, when dealing with "global warming" or whatever new name they have attached to it this week to keep the ignorant scared about the end of the world.
Extrapolations and "computer models" are the truly ignorant's tools for arguing about subjects no one really understands; other than "it must be really bad!"
Too much imbibing in illegal substances will create "facts" such as this one.
Totally made up and never substantiated.
Doesn't prevent the totally ignorant from getting all excersized.
Occam's Razor suggests a passing ship.
The maritime traffic between the orient and the West coast is huge...
Now there's a really useful contribution to this thread...
I suppose that explains why, from time to time, we read about another death by drinking too much water, by nut jobs or "jackass" types.
Now that's scientific!
Makes them all leftist, no?
Well, there you go, I suppose that's why he qualified his remark with "almost".
“I explained what he was looking at was kelp...”
You mean those Japanese just toss their unwanted food into the ocean!?
In school we learned about the “right hand rule” regarding electromagnetics.
We also learned about the “left hand rule”. If something doesn’t seem right with regard to a number, it might be his left hand is a bit stinky.