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Robert De Niro Talks About Father's Homosexuality Conflict; 'Prayers Don't Help,' Father Said
Christian Post ^ | 07/02/2014 | Hayley Olson

Posted on 07/03/2014 8:09:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Robert De Niro said in a recent interview that his late father never discussed his homosexuality.

"He was very private so he wouldn't go into that with me," De Niro told Katie Couric on Yahoo News. "I don't really know much about that side of my father."

The Academy Award winning actor said he did have "some inkling" that his father was gay and his mother even made some inferences but it was never "brought up."

"You kind of ... knew but didn't know," he said.

De Niro has been making media rounds to promote his documentary, "Remembering the Artist: Robert De Niro, Sr." The actor used his father's journal entries to chronicle the life of the artist, who died of prostate cancer at 71 years old in 1993.

In the documentary, De Niro Jr. reads several journal entries where his father describes his struggle with homosexuality.

"If God doesn't want me to be a homosexual (about which I have so much guilt) he will find a woman whom I will love and who will love me or at least create an interest in me in women as sexual partners," De Niro Sr. wrote.

"The pills don't help or the prayers either. God! God! God!"

In another journal entry, De Niro Sr. – whose paintings include depictions of Jesus and the cross – wrote, "Being a painter is an affliction. Like being a homosexual. One has to have the strength to continue working without the recognition either before or after death just as one had to have the strength to accept life alone without the thought of romantic attachment."

The younger De Niro, who wants to promote his father's art work, said his parents divorced when he was 11 or 12 but actually separated when he was 2 or 3 years old.

"Obviously, I realize now that it was hard for him," the actor said.


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Question: How did his father sire Robert as a homosexual?

I've always been puzzled by homosexuals who :

1) Have children only to realize they're gay later in life and abandon their families.

2) Suddenly decide they don't want to be homosexual anymore and then have heterosexual marriages and even have kids ( see: Mayor Bill De Blasio's wife and actress Anne Heche ).

Can anybody give an explanation for this?

1 posted on 07/03/2014 8:09:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Romans chapter 1.


2 posted on 07/03/2014 8:12:31 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: SeekAndFind

De Niro is real good in movies for some reason.

In real life I cannot STAND this dim bulb.


3 posted on 07/03/2014 8:16:03 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: SeekAndFind

If he was gay how could he impregnate his mother? Did they have in vitro back in the 40s? According to gays they are “born that way” and can nor more have sex with women than straight men can have sex with gay men, so how would a gay man get aroused enough to the point of being able to impregnate a woman?


4 posted on 07/03/2014 8:17:30 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
RE: If he was gay how could he impregnate his mother?

Gore Vidal, William F. Buckley's protagonist at the Firing Line and himself an open homosexual (when it was not cool then) wrote:

"We are all bisexual to begin with. That is a fact of our condition. And we are all responsive to sexual stimuli from our own as well as from the opposite sex. Certain societies at certain times, usually in the interest of maintaining the baby supply, have discouraged homosexuality. Other societies, particularly militaristic ones, have exalted it. But regardless of tribal taboos, homosexuality is a constant fact of the human condition and it is not a sickness, not a sin, not a crime ... despite the best efforts of our puritan tribe to make it all three. Homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality. Notice I use the word 'natural,' not normal."
5 posted on 07/03/2014 8:19:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
"Being a painter is an affliction. Like being a homosexual."

I see what he's saying -- being a painter is a choice.

6 posted on 07/03/2014 8:20:18 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: SeekAndFind

Very sad journal. I feel for the Sr. DeNiro. He really wanted to change, unlike the freaks we see celebrating debauchery and sin in the streets.


7 posted on 07/03/2014 8:24:24 AM PDT by montag813
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To: SeekAndFind
I had a college professor who explained it this way: He said two percent of the population is strictly homosexual - they can NEVER be turned on by a member of the opposite sex. Two percent of the population is strictly heterosexual - then can never be turned on by a member of the same sex. The other ninety-six percent form a bell curve between the two groups. I repeated this story on FreeRepublic some time ago and a wise freeper pointed out that my professor was probably bi... which, thinking back was most likely true.
8 posted on 07/03/2014 8:25:33 AM PDT by GOPJ (Why no outrage over IRS targeting? Same reason Pravda didn't make a stink about gulags.FREnterprise)
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To: SeekAndFind

Homosexuals are hurt and lost.

‘I’m gay by CHOICE’: Sex and the City star Cynthia Nixon faces gay backlash after claiming she chooses to be homosexual

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2090942/Cynthia-Nixon-Im-gay-choice.html


9 posted on 07/03/2014 8:26:06 AM PDT by Vision (Living in beauty)
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To: GOPJ

I received this mail from a FReeper :

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They know they are homosexual, but try very hard to “fit in” with the culture, either for acceptance or religious reasons.

I have three friends who have married gay men, and have talked with them extensively about this. One put it rather bluntly to me, that young men have so many hormones flowing, they can “get off” easily, regardless of where they’re putting their “equipment”, so there was no problem with sexual function early on, even if he preferred guys.

Research shows that homosexual men have higher female hormones, but also higher male homones (including exposure in the womb*). I think that makes them highly sexualized, so it’s easier for a homosexual man to have “bisexual” attraction than a straight man.

*this is why homosexuality can be “from birth” but not entirely “genetic”. In utero homone exposure can change the sex of an embryo, so it’s no surprise that it could make “lesser” changes to sexuality.

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If the above is true, then how can we argue that they are not BORN THAT WAY?


10 posted on 07/03/2014 8:26:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: GOPJ

Anyone who thinks only 2% of the population is straight must be mentally ill.


11 posted on 07/03/2014 8:27:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a rhetorical question.
Ever have an inappropriate thought cross your mind?
Do you mentally pursue that thought, or mentally trash it?
What could you become if you followed through on every evil thought?
What reasons do you have to say “No!” to anything?

What we do with our bodies is like anything else. We make choices and live with the consequences.
My son is a homosexual. His parting words were.”I am who I have always been, and who I want to be.”
There are many people who dabble in different behaviors who decide that is not who they want to be, and do what ever it takes to change. That is when prayers “work.”


12 posted on 07/03/2014 8:28:03 AM PDT by WestwardHo
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To: mowowie

Another celebrity that never graduated high school but thinks he is smarter than every one else because he is in the circle.


13 posted on 07/03/2014 8:28:06 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind
Can anybody give an explanation for this?

Sexual impurity and decadence come in 10,000 different forms, but regardless its all just a result of lust.

14 posted on 07/03/2014 8:28:49 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind
"The pills don't help or the prayers either. God! God! God!"

Prayers only work if there is faith.
15 posted on 07/03/2014 8:29:38 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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De Niro Sr's paintings include depictions of Jesus and the cross......

No less a personage than Pablo Picasso once said the depiction
of Christ on the cross was a powerful subject....more powerful
than any other.

DeNiro's work seems to be influenced by Picasso.

16 posted on 07/03/2014 8:30:35 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: SeekAndFind

***”We are all bisexual to begin with. That is a fact of our condition. And we are all responsive to sexual stimuli from our own as well as from the opposite sex***

This reminds me of the boy from the Ozarks who was drafted back in WWII. His mother died when he was born and he was raised by the men around him, absolutely no women in his life.
When in the army, they realized he was “strange” and tested him.
They showed him photos of nude women, NO reaction.
They showed him photos of nude men, NO reaction.
Puzzled, one looked into the young man’s past, then showed him a photo of a cow, INSTANT REACTION!

I read this years ago(before internet) from a book on psychological disorders in the library at John Brown University. I wish I had remembered the name of the book.


17 posted on 07/03/2014 8:31:15 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: SeekAndFind

1) Have children only to realize they’re gay later in life and abandon their families.

I think some think that getting married will “cure” their SSA (same Sex Attraction) and while it does seem to help for a while I think it’s results may vary.

2) Suddenly decide they don’t want to be homosexual anymore and then have heterosexual marriages and even have kids ( see: Mayor Bill De Blasio’s wife and actress Anne Heche ).

I think that after having sex with someone they don;t want to have sex with because their SSA is so strong it wears them down and they get worn out.


18 posted on 07/03/2014 8:31:54 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, clearly, THEY ARE OUT OF THEIR MF’ING MINDS!!!!


19 posted on 07/03/2014 8:32:27 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains
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To: SeekAndFind

File this one under “Too Much Information”

Who cares?

And why do these people feel a need to wave their dirty laundry around?

Is this a way of showing how in touch with liberal values someone is?
“Hey look at me - I had a homo father too...!”


20 posted on 07/03/2014 8:33:01 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: SeekAndFind

This situation is produced and egged on by some pretty cruel lies from hell.

One secular doctor posited that all humans are actually bisexual. That would be one way of looking at the sin nature and its potential for being a medium of evil.

It is so easy for sin to taint sex that one major world religion (not Christianity) actually attributes sexual reproduction to evil wishes, not good ones.

The flip side of this is that God’s righteousness can also powerfully imbue and purify sex, if it is invited sincerely into one’s heart and life. People who pray have vaguely the right idea, but “pace” some therapists, the right idea is not to pray the gay away but to pray the straight in. God is more powerful than Satan; good is more powerful than evil.


21 posted on 07/03/2014 8:33:48 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SeekAndFind
personally I believe we all develop two sexual models in our mind..

That that we want...
That that we want to be.

Those can get co mingled... the concept of sexual confusion

22 posted on 07/03/2014 8:40:53 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: SeekAndFind

Notice I use the word ‘natural,’ not normal.”

I noticed, otherwise I was going to bring it up. Heart disease is also natural and a sickness, so I don’t get his claim that homosexuality is not a sickness.


23 posted on 07/03/2014 8:41:11 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: mowowie
De Niro is real good in movies for some reason. In real life I cannot STAND this dim bulb.

I know, right? It's like Sinatra. Unmatched artistic technique; revolting personal choices.

24 posted on 07/03/2014 8:42:15 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Iron Munro
File this one under “Too Much Information” Who cares? And why do these people feel a need to wave their dirty laundry around? Is this a way of showing how in touch with liberal values someone is? “Hey look at me - I had a homo father too...!”

Bingo.

25 posted on 07/03/2014 8:44:19 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: SeekAndFind
Can anybody give an explanation for this?

The explanation is they suddenly decide they don't want to be homosexual anymore.

26 posted on 07/03/2014 8:45:14 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Any pictures of his art?


27 posted on 07/03/2014 8:45:53 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: SeekAndFind
that young men have so many hormones flowing, they can “get off” easily, regardless of where they’re putting their “equipment

Any port in a storm?

At no point in my life, no matter how horny, I have never considered a homosexual act as an alternative.

28 posted on 07/03/2014 8:46:30 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (1 For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills. Psalm 50 v 10)
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To: SeekAndFind
"If God doesn't want me to be a homosexual (about which I have so much guilt) he will find a woman whom I will love and who will love me or at least create an interest in me in women as sexual partners," De Niro Sr. wrote. "The pills don't help or the prayers either. God! God! God!"

De Niro Jr. needs to contemplate whether his father could have been corrupted in childhood by a priest, and was in denial about it and a state of suppressed rage against the true God.

29 posted on 07/03/2014 8:47:22 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought DeBlasio was married to a black woman, I’ve seen pictures of him with his wife and kids. Where does this Anne Hech thing come from?


30 posted on 07/03/2014 8:54:41 AM PDT by slouper (LWRC SPR 223)
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To: Graybeard58

RE: At no point in my life, no matter how horny, I have never considered a homosexual act as an alternative.

Maybe you were not born with the excess “female” hormones? .... only “male” ones...


31 posted on 07/03/2014 8:55:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Liz

I had a doctor in NYC who use to have DeNiro paintings in her hallway. I was a kid and they depressed me!


32 posted on 07/03/2014 8:55:59 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

gay does not imply a lack of the abilty or sexual repulsion for the opposite sex..gay is preference for the same sex.


33 posted on 07/03/2014 8:56:55 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most men feel a sense of revulsion in the idea of a homosexual act. It is why they have often reacted violently to even the slightest move on the part of a gay guy.

In the bad old days of my youth in NYC, it was common to see gay friends and gay co-workers showing up with black eyes and cut lips. We all knew what had happened the night before!


34 posted on 07/03/2014 8:58:11 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"You kind of ... knew but didn't know," he said.

Ah, those were the days. This perspective worked for centuries. Closets are there for a reason.

35 posted on 07/03/2014 8:58:13 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU..)
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RE: Any pictures of his art?

Yes, see this page

Here are a few:



36 posted on 07/03/2014 8:58:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: slouper

DeBlasio’s wife is a lesbian. Anne Heche claimed (probably, falsely) to be gay and then got married.

The actress, Louise Brooks, was once asked why so many lesbians got married. She replied “Because they have to eat.” The gorgeous Louise was straight, hated being married, and ended up in abject poverty.


37 posted on 07/03/2014 9:01:16 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Liz
DeNiro's work seems to be influenced by Picasso.

Based on the one example you posted, I would have said Matisse instead, but I would have to see others before coming to any conclusion.

38 posted on 07/03/2014 9:01:25 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: miss marmelstein
I dont think they're considered that valuable----

Some of them were stolen by that Salander guy who ran a gallery and went to jail for accepting paintings to hold or sell---not telling clients he had sold them.....and kept the money.

Robert jr settled the case by accepting $14,000 for 6 of his father's works.

39 posted on 07/03/2014 9:01:59 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Moonman62

I think he uses natural and normal in the same way as you say sleeping and being awake is natural and normal ....sleep is a natural..but normal functioning is being awake.


40 posted on 07/03/2014 9:03:13 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: Liz

That’s interesting. That’s not a lot of money. This may be why the younger is promoting the elder’s work. Not necessarily because of the money but to create the impression that he is more highly valued as an artist than he truly is.


41 posted on 07/03/2014 9:04:53 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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...If the above is true, then how can we argue that they are not BORN THAT WAY?

And women with a high sex drive can be sluts, too; and we have been subjected to a social engineering program since the 60s to protect their civil rights as well; but face it, few people would really recommend that a slut is "just as good at raising children" as the gay lobby claims about "married" gays. At least we still recognize the damage to young minds from knowing mom is a slut.

We can argue anything we want; but behavior is a choice. I personally come from a long line of Irish alcoholics. That's why, realizing at first hand in my youth the heartbreak and devastation drunken behaviors caused, I chose not to drink. I have the genes; I cope with addictive behavior issues constantly like being online when I shouldn't be; but I'm in seven decades now of not drinking. I will be in recovery all my life, and even after not drinking all my life, I go to AA or ACOA meetings from time to time, and consider myself "in recovery" for a lifetime. But I don't get drunk and get behind the wheel, pick up other drunks in bars, let others rob me because I'm drunk, total the car while drunk, set the house on fire, abuse my children or any of the harm-to-others crap that proceeds from alcohol-abuse behaviors.

Surely it's the same for those born highly sexed. They need to come to terms with it and find ways to live in harmony with normality, not in open rebellion or invitations to self-detruction.

We can't help how we are born. But we can set goals for how we want to live, take up our cross, and put one foot in front of the other for the salvation of our lives.

42 posted on 07/03/2014 9:06:44 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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There are a few accepted schools of thought WRT homosexuality.

<><> The homosexual is till in the adolescent stage---w/ its discovery of sex/ genitalia.

<><> For the jaded male, Homosexual sex is considered far better than male/female type....thus it becomes a choice.

<><> In certain circles, homosexuality is all about decadence---and rejection of societal norms.

43 posted on 07/03/2014 9:09:14 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: miss marmelstein
Mmmmmm....always have to figure actors are opportunists---need to have their names out there to get parts.

There was a lot of interest when the Salander case broken --- so he's trying to capitalize on that, I suppose.

44 posted on 07/03/2014 9:15:09 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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1) Have children only to realize they're gay later in life and abandon their families.

I've never heard it your way. But I've met lots of homosexuals [I live in Hollywood] who "try to make marriage with a woman work" and have a family. Only, to admit it's not working ... or the wife says it's not working. BTW, Anne Heche was never gay. She was pretending to be a lesbian to have an affair with Ellen.

45 posted on 07/03/2014 9:18:30 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Liz

Or he’s promoting his father’s homosexuality - a trait his poor dad tried to hide. Doesn’t DeNiro have enough fame and fortune to leave the old man alone? In the immortal words of Dorothy Parker when talking about the furor in the wake of F. Scott Fitzgerald’s death: Not only are they digging up his bones, they’re gnawing on them.


46 posted on 07/03/2014 9:22:53 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is no real ‘struggle’ if the person simply doesn’t ‘go there’ in his imagination.

I’ve learned that the word ‘struggle’ in this context doesn’t refer to an honest attempt to stay away from this attraction entirely rather it is used to cover the self disgust and remorse that a person feels after wallowing in it imaginatively or actually.

Normal men don’t walk around ‘struggling’ with an attraction to 15 year old girls despite the fact that most 15 year old girls are fully physically developed. Despite the tremendous (and to say nothing of NATURAL)theoretical attraction it STILL has to be worked at by an individual and no doubt would result in the same moral degradation over time.


47 posted on 07/03/2014 9:22:56 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Liz

I always bought your first school of thought - which is Freud’s. Adolescent, pure and simple.


48 posted on 07/03/2014 9:24:43 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Maybe both are a bit like what Gov. Perry says about alcoholism. Certainly there are people born with the proclivity for being an artist. I know because I raised two. Mama don’t let your baby grow up to play banjo. My family also has some genetic disposition to addictive behavior whether its drugs, alcohol, video games, etc. My boys had a friend in the neighborhood when they were little whom they referred to as she. He was four years old. I never corrected them and I don’t think he was telling them that. Now an adult he lives that lifestyle in CA. I was not at all surprised. Celibacy is a choice. Sin is a choice. De Niro is a very good actor (just watched his Richard III) but he is an east coast lib. Kudos to him for helping his old, alcoholic, depressed father. Doesn’t matter if he is gay or not.


49 posted on 07/03/2014 9:25:16 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: BunnySlippers

RE: I’ve never heard it your way.

Have you ever heard of Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson? He married Isabella McDaniel, had 2 kids with her, and then eventually left her to “marry” ( note the quotes ) Mark Andrew.

That “marriage” with Mark ended in “divorce” ( again note the quotes) this year.

That’s just one example.

RE: BTW, Anne Heche was never gay. She was pretending to be a lesbian to have an affair with Ellen.

What was the objective of this “pretense”?

And if she’s not gay, how the heck could she do “it” physically with Ellen?


50 posted on 07/03/2014 9:30:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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