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To: markomalley

Who didn’t know this? All the privacy stuff is basically setup and/or run by NSA. It’s a key method for spying on the people who want privacy.


3 posted on 07/04/2014 5:23:05 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“It’s a key method for spying on the people who want privacy.”

Wonderful.


4 posted on 07/04/2014 5:52:50 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: ClearCase_guy

Agreed. Better to hide in plain sight than to try and use these obfuscation networks.


5 posted on 07/04/2014 6:01:18 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
All the privacy stuff is basically setup and/or run by NSA

It's not that we don't know, it's that we want to make it just that much harder to get our data.

You have to remember, Snowden revealed that the NSA catalogs everything that happens over unencrypted channels (i.e. HTTP). That would include our conversations here on FR.

The point isn't that using SSL is any more secure, it's just more difficult to pluck pertinent data from the transactions. The NSA may have backdoors or special keys to infiltrate SSL connections, but they cannot account for every single private key, hash, or salt algorithm. There's still a significant amount of translation that has to be done to encrypted traffic. They may get it eventually, but using encryption makes it just that much more work; work that the NSA may not be willing to do if you're just a home user trying to keep your credit card information secure.

6 posted on 07/04/2014 6:01:40 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
All the privacy stuff is basically setup and/or run by NSA.

Yep. Did you ever wonder what all those program updates were for?

This is an upside down admin. Privacy = transparency. Transparency = privacy.

16 posted on 07/04/2014 1:02:04 PM PDT by bgill
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