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Apollo Astronaut: Climate Alarmism Is the ‘Biggest Fraud in the Field of Science’
CNS ^ | July 2, 2014 | Craig Bannister

Posted on 07/04/2014 11:44:09 AM PDT by xzins

97% Climate Consensus ‘Most Nonsensical, Stupid Number in the World’

Climate alarmism is "the biggest fraud in the field of science" and the 97% consensus claim is nonsensical, Apollo 7 astronaut Walter Cunningham tells MRCTV in a preview of his presentation at the upcoming Heartland Institute climate conference, July 7-9.

"Since about 2000, I looked farther and farther into it," Col. Cunningham (USMC, Ret.) tells MRCTV in an exclusive interview. "I found that not one of the claims that the alarmists were making out there had any bearings, whatsoever. And, so, it was kind of a no-brainer to come to the conclusion."

Cunningham rejects the notion of man-made climate, not only as fact - but also as even qualifying as an actual "theory":

"In the media, it was being called a theory. Obviously, they didn't know what it means to be a theory."

"If we go back to the warmist hypothesis - not a theory, but, a hypothesis - they've been saying from the very beginning that carbon dioxide levels are abnormally high, that higher levels of carbon dioxide are bad for humans, and they thought warmer temperatures are bad for our world, and they thought we were able to override natural forces to control the earth's temperature. So, as I've looked into those, that's the problem that I've found, because I didn't find any of those to be correct - and, they certainly were not a theory, it was just their guess at what they wanted to see in the data they were looking at."

Cunningham urges Americans to look at the data and decide for themselves, instead of taking anyone else's word for it:

"You go out and take a look at it and you find out that a lot of it is pure nonsense and wishful thinking on the part of the alarmists who are looking for more and more money to fall into their hands."

"Don't believe it just because your professor said it. You gotta go take a look at it. Go back and look at the history of temperature and carbon dioxide, and you look at the value of carbon dioxide, and how it's a benefit today."

Cunningham notes that, while climate alarmists are concerned that the atmosphere currently contains 400 parts per million of CO2, that's only a tenth of the level his spacecraft had to reach before causing concern. In his Apollo craft, an alarm would go off when CO2 reached 4,000 parts per million and, in today's space shuttle, the trigger is 5,000. And, in submarines where crewmen may be on three-month missions, CO2 has to reach 8,000 parts per million before the alarm is activated.

"In one area after another, we find these people overly concerned about, one, the danger they're trying to push on us and, secondly, the claim that we can somehow or other control the earth's temperature by affecting it," Cunningham says.

"I can't say we don't have any impact, at all, but it'd be so miniscule and so tiny, that it wouldn't be worth any effort."

So, what does dictate the Earth's temperature? Cunningham says it's well-established that "principle controllers" are natural forces like sun, ocean temperature, and even volcanic activity.

Thus, he calls climate alarmism "the biggest fraud in the field of science":

"The case is, to me, really, it's laughable to find somebody who claims to be a serious scientist - that he would buy into this. So, I would really question anybody who claims to be a scientist doing this - so, what they do is try to control the nomenclature."

"To me, it's almost laughable, it's the biggest fraud in the field of science, certainly in my lifetime, maybe the biggest one in centuries."

"If you go back and you look at the data that has been well-documented over the years, you can look and see, for example, that right now both carbon dioxide and temperature are simultaneously at one of the lowest levels in at least the last 600-800 million years. The last time they were both together at this low a level, more or less, was 300 million years ago, and if you go back go back about 500-600 million years ago, carbon dioxide was 15 times higher than what it is now. So, what I'm getting at is this, the history shows you that most of this is just plain nonsensical today."

"And, the amazing thing to people like me... is that there are people that believe the nonsense they're being fed."

The media are largely to blame for public misconceptions - not because they're intentionally misleading the public, but because they "just don't want to go into the time and trouble to find out." "If they do go into it and look at it for themselves, they become a lot more neutral in their presentation," he says.

Worst of all, Cunningham says, media are promoting the "nonsensical" claim that there's scientific consensus accepting the hypothesis of man-made climate:

"When they're out propagating this so-called 97% of scientists believe we're controlling the temperature - I mean, that's the most nonsensical, stupid number in the world - and all they have to do is do a little research on Google - I'm not going to do it for them - go in there and take a look and you find out that's a ridiculous statement that people are making - and even the president makes a statement like that."

"If you have a totally anonymous survey of real scientists involved in this field, I would almost guarantee you that you going to have a majority that are not going to agree with the alarmists."

"I can only tell you that, even back in the days of Apollo, we didn't have to face this kind of nonsense," Cunningham concludes.

Editor's Note: Watch the Heartland Institute's 9th International Conference of Climate Change streaming live July 7-9, 2014 from Las Vegas, Nevada on CNSNews.com.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: academicbias; alarmism; astronaut; climatechange; climatechangefraud; cookedthebooks; criminalconspiracy; fraud; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; waltercunningham
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1 posted on 07/04/2014 11:44:09 AM PDT by xzins
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“If you go back and you look at the data that has been well-documented over the years, you can look and see, for example, that right now both carbon dioxide and temperature are simultaneously at one of the lowest levels in at least the last 600-800 million years. The last time they were both together at this low a level, more or less, was 300 million years ago, and if you go back go back about 500-600 million years ago, carbon dioxide was 15 times higher than what it is now. So, what I’m getting at is this, the history shows you that most of this is just plain nonsensical today.”


2 posted on 07/04/2014 11:44:34 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Walter Cunningham has a distinguished military career, and from UCLA Masters in Physics, and all the coursework for a Doctorate in Physics, less the thesis, due to military and NASA concerns at the time.


3 posted on 07/04/2014 11:47:30 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

wait a minute, Al Gore said the debate is over.

Obama has said that the debate is over also. When good liberals tell us the debate is over, and that any who believe otherwise believe in the flat earth society, isn’t that good enough for everyone??? (sarcasm)

Obama said, during a bad spate of wild fires in Texas a few years ago, that the governor of a state on fire denies global warming. That was Obama’s compassion for Texas and Rick Perry dealing with a disasterous fire season.


4 posted on 07/04/2014 11:48:16 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: xzins; All

On the other hand, PC climate alarmism is one of the best excuses to win constitutionally indefensible federal earmark funding.


5 posted on 07/04/2014 11:48:36 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

I think Obama is still p**ed off that Congress didn’t pass his cap and trade bill.


6 posted on 07/04/2014 11:50:16 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The debate is over for Al Gore because he got his $300 million from this scam.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-politicians/democrats/al-gore-net-worth/


7 posted on 07/04/2014 11:50:58 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: xzins

Ok, but he’s not an Obama worshipping, New York Times subscribing liberal. What could he possibly know?


8 posted on 07/04/2014 11:51:50 AM PDT by stanne
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To: xzins
body snatchers photo: body snatchers bodysnatchers.jpg

NASA administrators will be coming for you now.

9 posted on 07/04/2014 11:52:00 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: xzins

Ignore this Astronaut for three reasons.
He is a cracker, who dares speak against us.
And his agency has utterly, completely
failed in its only mission which your King
assigned it ... to improve the self-esteem of Moslems."

10 posted on 07/04/2014 11:55:21 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: xzins

These are kind of funny statements:

“If you have a totally anonymous survey of real scientists involved in this field, I would almost guarantee you that you going to have a majority that are not going to agree with the alarmists.”

Who really cares about majority/minority when it comes to the validity of scientific theory?

“I can only tell you that, even back in the days of Apollo, we didn’t have to face this kind of nonsense,” Cunningham concludes.”

Ehh?


11 posted on 07/04/2014 11:56:59 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Snickering Hound

He has nothing to worry about from NASA,since his last assignment was working on Skylab. The VA is a different story.


12 posted on 07/04/2014 11:58:18 AM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: xzins; zot; SeraphimApprentice

Thank you. and add this to John Coleman’s excellent 30 min youtube video on this costly hoax.


13 posted on 07/04/2014 12:03:07 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: xzins
Ah, he's from when they had needed people that could think. Towards the end of the shuttle program, there was a woman mission commander whose flight experience was mostly piloting the C5 Galaxy.

So on one of the promo broadcast from orbit, she's waxing on and on about seeing the destruction caused by AGW.

I figured she was ordered to do it, but changed my mind when it came out that she preferred to land at wide strips at Edwards, rather than at back at KSC.

An Affirmative Action shuttle commander, not comfortable with handling the ship she was in charge of, imo.

14 posted on 07/04/2014 12:03:37 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Al Gore because he got his $300 million from this scam.

And the igNobel Peace Prize, and an Oscar for Best "Documentary".

15 posted on 07/04/2014 12:06:34 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

He meant a relatively short time ago no one was trying to force pseudo science on them.


16 posted on 07/04/2014 12:06:48 PM PDT by Williams
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To: xzins

“To me, it’s almost laughable, it’s the biggest fraud in the field of science, certainly in my lifetime, maybe the biggest one in centuries.”

BUMP!


17 posted on 07/04/2014 12:06:59 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

He was addressing the “97% of scientists support global warming” claim. He said that it wasn’t so.

Apparently, they had to face some nonsense about moon travel. One theory, if you recall, was that the moon was so covered in dust from billions of years of dust that they’d sink right in.

He also had to face bureaucratic nonsense, if you read his bio.


18 posted on 07/04/2014 12:11:01 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Amendment10; xzins; zot; SeraphimApprentice

And in John Coleman’s video he addresses federal research funding as the main spur behind the ‘globull warming research’ to the tune of $4.7 billion per year.

http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/climate.html

John Coleman, an award-winning meteorologist and weatherman with sixty years of experience and founder of the Weather Channel, produced a video explaining the history of the man-made global warming hoax.

And President Eisenhower, in the same speech in which he warned about the military-industrial complex, he warned about the ACADEMIC RESEARCH - GOVERNMENTAL FUNDING COMPLEX


19 posted on 07/04/2014 12:11:27 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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wait a minute, Al Gore said the debate is over.

The debate is over. You've been caught in fantastic lies beyond the best scifi Hollywood could have even put out.

20 posted on 07/04/2014 12:24:34 PM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

when libs say something is over, it means, it isn’t, they’re losing, and they wish it was over.


21 posted on 07/04/2014 12:31:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: GreyFriar; All
"... federal research funding ..."

I should have stressed the excuse aspect of federal research funding. Who knows how these constitutionally indefensible federal funds are actually spent?

22 posted on 07/04/2014 12:33:04 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: xzins

If the (formerly) `global warming’ alarmists/now `climate change’ cranks are going to make an argument that we should spend billions on, to compare the concern with something equivalent, say, discovering whether or not a Proctor-Silex toaster oven is orbiting (former planet) Pluto, they are going to have to come up with more evidence than: 1. “Because we say so”; and/or, 2. You have to disprove it.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Until they do so, we can continue to say, “Go fell a tree with a herring and boil your bottoms! Then pee up sisal ropes you lefty queer-bait silly persons ... we fart in your general direction you—ho ho—wipers of animal food troughs. Oui, ha ha, that’s telling them it, mon Dieu!”


23 posted on 07/04/2014 12:34:04 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: xzins

Way to go Col. Cunningham (USMC, Ret.), tell it like it is. Facts are great destroyers of the untruth. Yes, the alarmist just skip over the required steps of the Scientific Method. And consensus is NOT a part of the Scientific Method.


24 posted on 07/04/2014 12:38:40 PM PDT by Techster
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping. The evidence that this is a fraud continues to accumulate.


25 posted on 07/04/2014 1:04:10 PM PDT by zot
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To: GreyFriar

Yes, this administration is financing this fraud.


26 posted on 07/04/2014 1:06:51 PM PDT by zot
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To: xzins; cyn; GeronL
AGW is popular with people who need to feel superior because it allows them to eco-shame less enlightened beings under the guise of environmental awareness and concern. It's a religion complete with ministers and priests and tithing, as well as its own sacrificial system.

AGW is also popular for those who are looking for more and more money to fall into their hands as they invent "green" "and earth-friendly" products and services for gullible consumers who need to show how much they care.

I wonder what is the breakdown between true believers in AGW and those who are laughing all the way to the bank with their "green" in hand.

Seems like the meanings of re-use and recycling have been divorced from the concepts of thriftiness and resourcefulness, and now are wedded to emotional arguments that cost a whole lot of money and waste resources, time, money, and talent.

There are an awful lot of home products/building materials out there that cost an arm and a leg over conventional materials, yet are x% recycled content. IOW, glorified trash. A successful business model based on converting trash to treasure is one thing, but I suspect that there are some hefty profit margins for those who demonize profits while shaming "wasteful" people.

Generally the whole eco scam is predicated upon ego, insincerity, underhanded manipulation, and outright deceit. Explains why AlGore is the high priest.

27 posted on 07/04/2014 1:08:44 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Ezekiel
ministers, priests, tithing...sacrificial...

I've got the first 3. What is the sacrifice in their earth religion? (Serious question)

28 posted on 07/04/2014 1:11:45 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
"So, what does dictate the Earth's temperature? Cunningham says it's well-established that "principle controllers" are natural forces like sun, ocean temperature, and even volcanic activity."

Yes. It's fake. It came from other fears.

Decades ago, a few men interested in security matters knew that nations would be fighting over oil and other natural fuel resources. The news sent the most influential political constituents into fits of hysteria. Then, west coast political/regulator NIMBYs started wringing their hands about competing for water resources with the increasing flood of slaves that they were bringing in to choose from.

We've also been lied to about the plan for shutting down coal as a fuel for power plants. It's not about windmills and solar power. The plan is to switch to natural gas for firing those plants. The Investors/bosses in natural gas are going to make a killing, and natural gas prices will also go sky high. Follow the money.

Influential political constituents have run to commodities--once considered to be some of the riskiest investments. Each faction wants to force the non-influential masses to buy from it and is regulating against competitors and self-sufficiency (for example, regulations against homebuilt, alternative heating systems that work).


29 posted on 07/04/2014 1:25:23 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: xzins
Bingo!, That is my argument right there to global warming. When the Dinosaurs roamed the earth it was substantially warmer just as Col. Cunningham says. So the question is what caused the earth to cool and where did all that excess CO2 go?
30 posted on 07/04/2014 1:28:32 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: familyop

My outdoor wood furnace, for example


31 posted on 07/04/2014 1:32:36 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

excess co2....soda pop fountains. (You had to ask? :>)


32 posted on 07/04/2014 1:47:41 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
Where to start?

Natural resource rationing and restriction (voluntary or otherwise). Reducing that "carbon footprint" or if you can't make the scarifice yourself, you pay for carbon offsets to cancel the effects of your bigfoot carbon monster.

Purchasing substandard products and services in order to benefit Gaia. We are increasingly forced to buy new items on replacement that "save energy" vs. goods/appliances that work properly and efficiently, because the old style has been either been run off/shamed out of the market or outlawed. Don't like the new light bulbs, toilets, and washing machines? Well now, if you were a proper worshiper you would willing embrace the inefficiencies and be happy to make sacrifices in comfort and convenience in order to save the planet. The true believers will let you know if your sacrifices aren't sufficient.

And on a more humorous note, think of all the time people spend rinsing and sorting their recyclables, in order to separate paper/plastic/glass from common/profane trash.

These are then offered up to the garbage god every week or whenever the truck rolls through, or the items are dropped off at some central collection point.

The God of Abraham required perfect sacrifices, the best of the animals, without blemish. Gaia, OTOH, demands... trash. Garbage in, garbage out.

33 posted on 07/04/2014 1:53:30 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: xzins
"My outdoor wood furnace, for example"

There's some info behind the following link. Notice the "Step 2" "emission limits" in five years.

http://www2.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2014-02/documents/proposed-nsps-overviewslides20140218.pdf

The appliances to be affected: adjustable burn rate stoves, single burn rate stoves, pellet stoves, outdoor and indoor hydronic heaters, forced air furnaces and masonry heaters.

The wood stoves allowed by step 2 of the EPA rule (probably with catalytic reburners and/or filters) will be extremely expensive and use far more wood than a contemporary home-built rocket stove mass heater or masonry heater. But there are always ways around being robbed by the political/regulator class, and technically inclined people will find those ways.

Components for a solar, drainback heating system and rocket stove mass heaters were already already outlawed by regulations that allow local mechanical inspectors the discretion to reject them. Factory-built, SRCC certified solar collectors and approved masonry heater installs don't save money.


34 posted on 07/04/2014 1:54:09 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Ezekiel

Thanks, Ezekiel. I was thinking along those lines, but wanted to be sure.


35 posted on 07/04/2014 1:55:57 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: familyop

The rocket stoves are the masonry type built right into corners of a house?

One thing that amuses me are the numbers on cost of their centralized “solar power stations”. They can buy a complete, independent solar panel unit with 20+ kw service for each home more cheaply than they can centralize it and send it out on wires to each of those homes.

Besides that, they’d create a huge number of installation and service jobs, the service jobs being permanent.

So, it really isn’t about ‘clean’ energy. It’s about centralization and awarding a new class of energy cronies with the money from monthly energy bills.


36 posted on 07/04/2014 2:01:06 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: jmcenanly
He has nothing to worry about from NASA, since his last assignment was working on Skylab.

Not so fast. Astronauts will their bodies to NASA for research. Who knows what macabre desecrations the greens and muslims in charge there will order.

37 posted on 07/04/2014 2:01:08 PM PDT by kitchen (Even the walls have ears.)
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To: xzins
And do install LED lighting. It's a real money saver. Use dimmers specifically made for LEDs wherever useful in order to make them last much longer. That will save money and will work much better outdoors in cold weather than flourescents.

The following want us to be forced to feed their commodity (energy)-invested pension funds and other funds.

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."

America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution
http://spectator.org/articles/39326/americas-ruling-class-and-perils-revolution

The Fragmenting of the New Class Elites, or, Downward Mobility
http://volokh.com/2011/10/31/the-fragmenting-of-the-new-class-elites-or-downward-mobility/

Environmentalism and the Leisure Class
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2835601/posts

The New Upper Class and the Real Reason We Dislike Them
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2843575/posts

Are you a member of the political class?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/are_you_a_member_of_the_politi.html

Downton’s Class System — and Ours: We have a ruling class that despises the free market and does...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3024119/posts

The War on Humans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWcEYYj_-rg


38 posted on 07/04/2014 2:10:46 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: xzins

And I’m sure you have noticed that the eco-cult society that America has morphed into is becoming increasingly hostile, hateful, jugmental, and intolerant of those who hold to traditional American forms of worship and ethics.

Kind of strange if the enviromovement is just science and progress IOW religiously neutral. Talk about a government establishment of religion. Beast.gov rammed its poison “communion” wafers down our throats in broad daylight by steering clear of a religious label.


39 posted on 07/04/2014 2:20:44 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Bookmark


40 posted on 07/04/2014 2:22:43 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: xzins

Our government is run by professional political class of self promoting, self serving con artists making laws to legally steal our money, and promote at our expense more avenues, and opportunities for themseves to legally steal even more.

Our traditionally respected institutions likewise are run by similar types of opportunists who support they of the professional political class with their hands out for much of the stolen taxpayer treasure.

A cycle that needs to be addressed.


41 posted on 07/04/2014 2:25:24 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: xzins
"One thing that amuses me are the numbers on cost of their centralized “solar power stations”. They can buy a complete, independent solar panel unit with 20+ kw service for each home more cheaply than they can centralize it and send it out on wires to each of those homes."

"So, it really isn’t about ‘clean’ energy. It’s about centralization and awarding a new class of energy cronies with the money from monthly energy bills."

Yes! And there's no need for subsidies, rebates or tax credits. In my part of the West, about 1.5 kilowatts of charging is more than enough for a house without an electric clothes dryer, dishwasher, range or forced air heating. With a little practice, old-style percolator coffee pots even work fine.

For well water pumps, cisterns either with generators or solar power plants with slow pumps are fine. For those who use the National Electrical Code as a reference, have knowledge of PV solar systems and experience in electrical work safety, a self-install makes using the technology actually worthwhile now.


42 posted on 07/04/2014 2:25:41 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: xzins
"The rocket stoves are the masonry type built right into corners of a house?"

rocket stove mass heater
http://www.richsoil.com/rocket-stove-mass-heater.jsp


43 posted on 07/04/2014 2:28:36 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: xzins

The left is full of frauds.

Global warming, and Obama: the 2 biggest frauds on the planet.


44 posted on 07/04/2014 3:18:04 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: Techster

Like ‘new’ math, we have a ‘new’ scientific method.

Here is how it works.

Pick you conclusion. Then go back and try to find facts which support your conclusion.

If you do, then only use those facts or figures.

If you can’t find any, then make them up.


45 posted on 07/04/2014 3:43:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2
If you can’t find any, then make them up.

And if your theories lead to action that further adds control to the elites, they will be happy to fund your work.

46 posted on 07/04/2014 3:45:16 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: xzins; Ezekiel
What is the sacrifice in their earth religion?

Your basic rights.

47 posted on 07/04/2014 3:45:20 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

That’s it in three words.


48 posted on 07/04/2014 4:06:17 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> The media are largely to blame for public misconceptions - not because they’re intentionally misleading the public, but because they “just don’t want to go into the time and trouble to find out.” “If they do go into it and look at it for themselves, they become a lot more neutral in their presentation,” he says. Worst of all, Cunningham says, media are promoting the “nonsensical” claim that there’s scientific consensus accepting the hypothesis of man-made climate...

He’s almost right — the media push leftist agitprop, and know they are doing that.


49 posted on 07/04/2014 4:55:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins
"And, the amazing thing to people like me... is that there are people that believe the nonsense they're being fed."
That applies across the board, not just to the climate liars.
50 posted on 07/04/2014 5:03:03 PM PDT by Cboldt
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