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How Vietnam Vets were embraced - what media did not cover
ChristianConcepsDaily ^ | June 4th, 2014 | Dr. Joseph Horton

Posted on 07/04/2014 6:56:05 PM PDT by se99tp

Independence Day is the yearly pinnacle of patriotism. But, as the media in the 1960s and 70s reported, Americans did not seem very patriotic when it came to the Vietnam War. What if what we know about Americans’ lack of support for our troops in Vietnam is wrong?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: gratitude; parades; vietnam
Horton examines evidence that suggests that Americans’ patriotism did not wane during Vietnam, it was simply not widely reported by the media and that it is now time to “correct this historical ignorance and give our Vietnam vets the heritage they deserve".

The story about Home With Honor Parade in NYC in 1973 is very interesting.

1 posted on 07/04/2014 6:56:06 PM PDT by se99tp
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To: se99tp

It is more about how history isn’t as neatly packaged as it is usually presented.

2 posted on 07/04/2014 7:12:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (( Rand Paul---What a tragedy if America wouldn't have gotten to see Barack Obama as a leader.)
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To: se99tp
Chicago had a Welcome Home in 1986. The traveling wall with it.
Surreal....the parade was going on not far away, but around “The Wall” absolute pin drop silence.

Expecting 125k marchers, they got over 200k marchers with 500k more people cheering along a 3 mile parade route.

3 posted on 07/04/2014 7:15:32 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama ----> Fredo smart)
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I am not a Viet Nam vet, but I was horribly treated in the early eighties. As a Marine doing a couple of parades in the midwest we were booed and jeered and had the occassional item thrown at us. Even in the early nineties when I went to school, advisors, employers, and professors marginalized us (A professor told me he was shocked a MArine could comprehend literature. I noted that if we replaced the term “Marine” with woman, black, etc. he’d be out of a job and that the only reason he wasn’t thrown off the balcony we were on was that I possessed self discipline which included not saying inapropriate or insulting things to others). In 98 a girl saw my USMC sticker on the truck and called me a baby killer (I honestly thought she was an old girlfriend I couldn’t remember until I realized she was referring to the sticker). The reason people lash out at US servicemen is they know we are disciplined and are unlikely to do anything violent. Civilians in the South Pacific or Europe did not have the same reaction to the US military approaching as they did concerning the Japanese or the Soviets.

Now I have people profusely thanking me for my service, which actually makes me more uncomfortable. Seems I am comfortable being shot at than praised.

4 posted on 07/04/2014 7:17:35 PM PDT by rey
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Thank you very much for posting this.

God bless...

5 posted on 07/04/2014 7:25:43 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: se99tp
That's an interesting article. I was never aware of those parades. One wonders how much goes on that is important that we never know about.

I am a Vietnam veteran and can honestly say that I was never aware of any disrespect directed toward me. There could have been some behind my back, of course, and maybe one or two of those post-service jobs I didn't get were due to some anti-military prejudice, but I was never conscious of it.

6 posted on 07/04/2014 7:26:31 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Can Juan Williams possibly be that stupid?)
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My dad and uncle were vilified when they came home on the “Freedom Bird” at the airport. He said people were yelling “Baby killers” - my dad responded to one of them saying “too bad I missed you” ....

7 posted on 07/04/2014 7:32:20 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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I have driven around with my Vietnam Veteran license plate here on the Big island now for a couple years and yet to get a comment except from an Iraqi Freedom Marine vet.

Figured I'd get at least a few stink eyes from all the liberals here, but not so, or I did not notice or hear them.

I must admit, I got the plates partly to taunt them, beside the pride.

8 posted on 07/04/2014 7:39:05 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: se99tp

I speak only for myself. We flew into El Toro MCAS on a KC-130 after landing from a trans-Pacific flight from Okinawa.

I flew in with a buddy whose home was in San Francisco.

The good people in San Francisco would not let us buy a drink. We went to the Italian bakeries, and these wonderful people would not accept our money. We stopped at Fisherman’s Wharf and bought fresh crab for a buck per grocery bag. These hard-working fishermen appreciated us.

If any hippie had spit on us, it would have been the last thing he ever did. We were combat veterans. We would’ve ripped his face off and stomped his nuts into the concrete.

Good article.

9 posted on 07/04/2014 7:41:49 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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About 10 years ago, I was in a shoe store with my wife. I overheard two teenage clerks talking to each other. One mentioned her Vietnam veteran uncle, and in unison, they both went, “ewwwww!”

I wanted to clunk their heads together like Moe used to do to Larry and Curly.

10 posted on 07/04/2014 8:40:30 PM PDT by TheGipperWasRight
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I was stationed at Ft Eustis for a 3 month school after returning from Nam in 1968 and immediately reassigned to Europe thereafter. I flew into Seattle and out of New York to Europe. I traveled in uniform. I did not personally experience any anti Vietnam protestors - my wife said it was because of the look in my eyes. Though I had many friends accosted, some physically - wrong move on the part of the hippie. I have no doubt the media misinformed, as they did of the war in general. Their treason escalated from that time on and continues till today.

11 posted on 07/04/2014 8:41:23 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: rey
“The reason people lash out at US servicemen is they know we are disciplined and are unlikely to do anything violent.”

My observation as well. I and several of my riding buddies were stopped at a McDonalds and saw a couple of punks giving some Marines some crap. They were acting all big and bad and it was apparent that they knew very well that the Marines were not going to retaliate for fear of someone reporting them. We walked over and told the punks that we knew the fine young men in uniform were not allowed to harm them but that we were under no such constraints and would happily kick their asses as a way of thanking the Marines for their service. I thought the punks were going to wet themselves. They nearly ran from the place. We got a nice “Semper Fi” from one of the Marines which we considered an honor.

12 posted on 07/04/2014 9:07:01 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: CrazyIvan
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13 posted on 07/04/2014 9:11:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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14 posted on 07/05/2014 1:03:53 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: se99tp; Pelham

I was there.

We were very patriotic.

Media gave freedom riders and college activists undue attention given their tiny numbers

Vietnam had a fair amount of media support till Tet and then Me Lai cemented the negativity

And the body counts which they did under both LBJ and Nixon though they hated Nixon even though he was leaving Nam.

Youth was actually more conservative voting than now.....check voting records

The left did not own academia then nor were the Hollywood cartel as openly destructive of traditional Christian America as yet back then...70s were that watershed

The Media liked the Beats but they adored the Hippies and Yippies...and made them exponentially larger than the fringe they were

It was awkward comical then.....straights trying to be cool....imagine Dick Cavett in his turtleneck trying to be relevant to Abbie Hoffman or Bob

That undercurrent of a youth rebelling against an entrenched 50s establishment of conformity was fairly widespread but not as contrasted as say Haight Ashbury versus Pat Boone

Youth culture still with us just proportionately far less youth

When I was a kid...b1957....everyone was under 30 it seemed like

Post World War II horniness and all....God bless survive that and time to get it on

15 posted on 07/05/2014 1:41:02 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: Dapper 26

Thank you very much for your service Sir.

16 posted on 07/05/2014 2:14:20 AM PDT by se99tp (look)
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On average, Vietnam vets have better mental health and are more successful than non-vets from the same era.

Not surprising. You had to be above average to be accepted for the draft. A comparison between Iraq vets and their contemporaries would probably be even more favorable to the vets, since they were all volunteers and the services could select the very top recruits.

I returned from Thailand in 1963 individually, not part of a unit, and encountered no problems. However, that was before the war expanded.

17 posted on 07/05/2014 1:21:00 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Book: Resistance to Tyranny. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: se99tp; Pontiac; Las Vegas Dave; Whenifhow; traditional1; kristinn
My Dad and I served in RVN at the same time, he was in Tuy Hoa with the 136th FIS/107th TFW, NYANG. They were flying F100s, I was spotting Naval Gunfire from the back seat of 01 Bird Dogs for the Corps.

He got home after I did, and being a local unit from Niagara Falls, the 136th received a hearty welcome home.

I received a hearty welcome home from the fathers of my high school friends who were WWII/Korea vets, we were equals, and had some talking to do. I went to SUNY Buffalo, and the SDS, INTLANSWER, and the other elitist dickheads from New York City regularly shut down the campus and hurled invectives at the vets.

I told my father that my generation of vets would never turn their backs on the new returning vets and let Intlanswer. I wish he would have lived long enough to see the Free Republic and the Gathering Of Eagles where we faced down Intlanswer. Those punks really wanted a piece of the 45,000 Vietnam, Kuwait, and War on Terror vets that were there to protect the monuments in Washington

18 posted on 07/05/2014 4:44:48 PM PDT by North Coast Conservative (God created man, Sam Colt made them equal)
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Too bad the cops kept them on their side of the street.

19 posted on 07/05/2014 4:45:47 PM PDT by North Coast Conservative (God created man, Sam Colt made them equal)
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Thank you. It was my duty and my honor to serve my country.

20 posted on 07/06/2014 11:45:35 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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