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“Made In America” Is Making a Comeback With an Unlikely Ally
Yahoo/WallStreetCheatSheet ^ | 4 Jul 2014 | DAN RITTER

Posted on 07/05/2014 6:34:06 AM PDT by shove_it

When people talk about the “decline of U.S. manufacturing” over the past 10 years or so, they are not talking about some ephemeral or nebulous evaporation of demand or an unquantifiable off-shoring of jobs. Generally, they are not even talking about a dramatic decline in the relative amount of value added by manufacturing to overall gross domestic product, because since 2005 that share has only fallen from 13 percent to 12.4 percent. This is significant, but not staggering.

By comparison, the contribution from the finance and insurance industry fell by a full percentage point, from 7.6 to 6.6 percent, over the same period, and the contribution from construction fell 1.4 percentage points from 5.0 to 3.6 percent. Overall manufacturing output has also been fairly resilient and has generally followed the ebb and flow of the economy at large, not the downward death spiral that doomsday propagandists describe. Our factories are producing as much value now as they were before the financial crisis and more value than in 2000, when real output peaked before a contraction that coincided with the bursting of the dot-com bubble.

When people describe the decline of U.S. manufacturing, most often they are referring directly to the dramatic decline in overall manufacturing employment over the past decade. In 2003, manufacturing employed about 14.5 people in the U.S. — come 2013, that number fell to 12.0 million. At its most-recent peak in the late 1990s (manufacturing employment has been in decline for a long time), the industry employed 17.5 million people. At its most-recent low in 2010, the post-crisis pit, the industry employed just 11.5 million people...

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1 posted on 07/05/2014 6:34:06 AM PDT by shove_it
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To: shove_it

Part of the reason for such a dramatic decline in manufacturing employment has been productivity gains. As the graph shows, even as overall employment tanked, output not only remained strong, it grew. As employment stabilized and began to grow itself in the wake of the financial crisis, the manufacturing industry at large began experiencing a robust recovery.

2 posted on 07/05/2014 6:37:06 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: shove_it

To me, there are very distinctly different kinds of “Made in America” products.

For example, a “Made in America” GM car or truck might as well be from Mars - I will NEVER buy one. Other examples? I make a conscious effort to investigate any product I buy online to determine where it comes from and who makes it. There are multiple companies from whom I don’t buy products because of where they do business from.


3 posted on 07/05/2014 6:38:25 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

A product from a company with an American name is likely not made in America any more. Just look around at all the shuttered factories and supplier shops. Don’t believe your lyin’ eyes, numbers don’t lie, do they?


4 posted on 07/05/2014 6:45:16 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: shove_it

I understand that and I know how to read labels and Distributor information. To me, I’d much rather buy a product made in China and imported by a Georgia retailer than I would, say, from a product made in Massachusetts or Connecticut or New York City.... I’m just not going to subsidize liberals any more.

That’s why it is difficult in buying guns now - there are too many manufacturers who won’t leave the oppressive states where they produce their products.


5 posted on 07/05/2014 6:49:58 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: shove_it

The best American-made cars have Japanese brand names.


6 posted on 07/05/2014 6:53:46 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Lacrosse- Canada's national sport, like hockey only violent)
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To: Gaffer
Even if you don't like NY, MA, and CT, it's not a reason to by made in China. Those manufacturing jobs most often employ people who work for a paycheck, support the US as it used to be, and often are opposed to federal gov vs giving their communities more say.

Local manufacturing often keeps American traditions alive in those communities. They support the local arts councils, parades, community projects etc.

Have you ever been to rural towns in central and western CT and MA? I think you'd be surprised.

7 posted on 07/05/2014 7:03:46 AM PDT by grania
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To: shove_it
In 2003, manufacturing employed about 14.5 people in the U.S.

And the .5 person got a raise.

8 posted on 07/05/2014 7:04:26 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: grania

yes but they are CT and MA. just the same.

They are still a part of the Neoeuropa that has transcended America in the northeast.


9 posted on 07/05/2014 7:06:11 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: grania

If they allow a corrupt and liberal state government to implement and execute their laws, then I don’t care how ‘conservative’ they might be.

I’d rather see them move to a freer state. Until then, I won’t buy from those states if there is another state from which I can get comparably the same thing. It’s their problem and not mine.


10 posted on 07/05/2014 7:06:35 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

While I understand the reluctance to support GM, America is now facing a crisis.

We have exported a LOT of what used to be American manufacturing.

A lot.

America needs to stop sending American manufacturing overseas. Stop sending American jobs to China and elsewhere.

Bring back jobs to America.


11 posted on 07/05/2014 7:07:04 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Squawk 8888
"American made cars" = American assembled cars. Where are the steel factories and fab shops located where all the parts and sub-assembles are "made"?
12 posted on 07/05/2014 7:07:37 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I agree with your sentiment, but it is an unconvincing reason for me to support the unions of GM, a corrupt federal government who screwed legitimate investors, and people who stubbornly refuse to put up with tyranny because they don’t want to coalesce and throw out their government, or just willing to pass the idiocy off to customers.

I won’t support it. If they can’t exist without it, the screw them. I don’t care.


13 posted on 07/05/2014 7:11:41 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Reeses

Nice chart. A picture is worth 1000 words.


14 posted on 07/05/2014 7:12:15 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: shove_it

A surprising amount is made in the states and provinces around the Great Lakes. Most of the parts come from Magna, a Canadian firm with factories around the world.


15 posted on 07/05/2014 7:17:48 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Lacrosse- Canada's national sport, like hockey only violent)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You can start by buying Moto X, android fone and the only phone made in America. Dallas, actually. I bought two, and am giving hubby one when his current contract is up.


16 posted on 07/05/2014 7:20:16 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: shove_it

Mostly in the U.S. It’s been that way in the auto industry forever. What grinds people is that the smaller, mom & pop-type suppliers to the auto industry are mostly out of business. So when you drive up and down Woodward Ave. in Detroit, you see all the vacant buildings, and you don’t see the parts and sub-assemblies coming from Indiana, Ohio, and (yes) Canada.


17 posted on 07/05/2014 7:34:17 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Gaffer

This Is Once Again the Most “American” Vehicle ...

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/07/05/it-should-come-as-no-surprise-that-this-is-once-ag.aspx


18 posted on 07/05/2014 7:37:47 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: Gaffer

So you will gladly support Communist China with your purchases? Communism isn’t exactly a conservative thing....


19 posted on 07/05/2014 7:40:20 AM PDT by DisorderOnBorder (Haley Barbour gave me $15 to vote)
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To: 1rudeboy; Squawk 8888

Yes! A major steel supplier to the auto industry, Great Lakes Steel, that used to be in Ecorse and Zug Island are long gone too. I worded there in the early 1960s as a time study analyst but saw the end coming when management folded to the USW by giving them the moon to prevent a strike.


20 posted on 07/05/2014 7:50:29 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: shove_it

Part of the reason for such a dramatic decline in manufacturing employment has been productivity gains.

That’s why the Luddites were Luddites, to protect their jobs.


21 posted on 07/05/2014 7:54:16 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: shove_it

I sold my 2005 Honda Accord. I sold my 2009 Honda Accord. I sold my 2001 Dodge truck. I sold my 2005 325i BMW.

I now own a 2010 Ford F-150 and a 2012 Ford Explorer. Both of them have been a pleasure to own. My F-150 is now at 100,800 odd miles - I had to replace the tires at 70,000 miles, and I am on the original set of brakepads, still. (Still within factory limits, BTW). The only thing I’ve had to do for either was an oil and filter change every 5000 miles, plus wipers and tire rotations occasionally.

I’ve owned two Dodge trucks - both lost their transmissions before 100,000 plus a lot of other problems. The Hondas were okay, but they definitely couldn’t tolerate ethanol dosed gas.


22 posted on 07/05/2014 7:55:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: shove_it

I remember a lot of the steel mills in the USA (and a few in Canada) were in trouble because they never modernized. The industry in Hamilton, Ontario is still strong but they do it with fewer workers; the only way to compete with cheap overseas labour is to use less labour.


23 posted on 07/05/2014 7:57:32 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Lacrosse- Canada's national sport, like hockey only violent)
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To: Squawk 8888

Great Lakes Steel had computer controlled rolling mills in the early 1960s. It was astounding to me that management allowed Japanese engineers tour these mills with their Nicon cameras - they soon stole the technology and the steel business.


24 posted on 07/05/2014 8:05:14 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: shove_it

IIRC it was the 1970s when a lot of the heavy industries here stopped innovating.


25 posted on 07/05/2014 8:08:13 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Lacrosse- Canada's national sport, like hockey only violent)
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To: DisorderOnBorder

If you look at the events occurring in this country today with this particular tyrannical government, how can you condemn the freer parts of capitalistic enterprise in China? Hong Kong, Singapore, etc.

Do you really want to deprive these capitalist leaning enclaves the opportunity to enlist more proponents of that system of business and beliefs because they exist under the aegis of a communistic government? I submit that this country is/has become majority socialist (maybe tending to communistic for some liberal states). It’s no different to me.

Dissent in China may grow, especially if some portion sees capitalism as a new way. Here in this country, liberal oppressive dogma in Blue States only seeks to redistribute income from workers to leeches and decide the freedoms of the individuals instead of following the Constitution, and in the process, fuel a national government that is intent on radically transforming traditional America into a third or fourth world crap hole.


26 posted on 07/05/2014 8:09:37 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

If you work hard enough, you can find a bit of Democrat, China or “gay” in darn near every product or organization.

Yesterday’s Independence Day parade there was a Pearl Harbor Survivor riding in a Honda SUV. Seemed like only a handful of us old guys caught the irony.


27 posted on 07/05/2014 8:10:47 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Gaffer

China may (or may not) become freer.

Right now, they remain completely communist. China is a communist country.

We are being extremely unwise, to de-industrialize America, on the questionable bet China is becoming freer.

Bring back jobs to America.

We are a free country. We have opposing parties, and yet we send jobs to a communist country, which is also racially based?

I say stop exporting everything.

Wake the heck up.


28 posted on 07/05/2014 8:16:59 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Oh sorry.

Second to the last paragraph, “stop importing everything”.

:D


29 posted on 07/05/2014 8:18:25 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: nascarnation

I understand your examples and certainly can at least take them on face value. However, to me it isn’t a blurry decision for Massachusetts or Connecticut or NYC, Chicago, Detroit, et al. They are full-blown oppressive, mindlessly despotic.

To me, I’ve have been more insulted and incensed to see the survivor riding in a GM SUV, because the Japanese were eventually brought around to the light-side, whereas as far as I’m concerned, GM is a tool of a tyrannical government.


30 posted on 07/05/2014 8:19:08 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I agree that we need to bring jobs back to America. I am not in favor of rewarding states that endorse tyranny with manufacturing jobs. Frankly, they can all go the way of Detroit. I don’t care.


31 posted on 07/05/2014 8:22:24 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: DisorderOnBorder

I don’t understand choosing Chicoms over unions.

There’s a lot wrong with unions, but at the end of the day the members are my American brothers and sisters, and I would much rather they work than steal.


32 posted on 07/05/2014 8:24:40 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Gaffer

We have an area of agreement.

What can we do, in that area of agreement.

America needs jobs. I do not disagree with your points. However China is now our biggest competitor, and is becoming stronger every single day.

America is not becoming stronger, because we import everything we buy, from China.

We are losing, at the moment.


33 posted on 07/05/2014 8:25:05 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Agree. I don’t intentionally look for Chinese goods, but I’m not shy about choosing China over, say, Massachusetts.

China, at least has some hope of redemption to the light side; Massachusetts (by decades of evidence) does not. No question.


34 posted on 07/05/2014 8:28:42 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Actually I agree more with post 32.

America needs jobs.


35 posted on 07/05/2014 8:30:05 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Jim Noble

“work than steal....”

Haha! They ARE stealing and will steal unendingly unless they are stopped. If you can conclusively show me where Jimmy Hoffa is buried, I will reconsider your argument.


36 posted on 07/05/2014 8:30:53 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: grania

It is not as simple as were was it made. iPhones are assembled in China but the design, engineering, marketing, sales, administration, etc. and PROFITS are here in the US. China only receives the smallest of slivers of the overall value. If Apple had to pay US labor rates and worse of all comply with all of the idiotic and wasteful US laws they would probably not be competitive and the vast amount of jobs and wealth created in this country would be lost.

I love making things here. I owned a US manufacturing company but I bought cheap things from China that helped me generate better paying iobs here. But our government is making life miserable for manufactures.


37 posted on 07/05/2014 8:31:48 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: sportutegrl
http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/

Overkill for most people but it is built in the USA.
38 posted on 07/05/2014 8:35:24 AM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: Gaffer

“China, at least has some hope of redemption to the light side; Massachusetts (by decades of evidence) does not. No question.”

So there are decades of evidence against Massachusetts but there are NOT decades of evidence against China?

What am I missing here?

.


39 posted on 07/05/2014 8:38:15 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears

Actually, I don’t care if you understand or not. There is absolutely no evidence or reason Massachusetts will EVER see the light. One can plainly see from trends and practices that one is improving and the other still irretrievably devolving.

You can spend your money where you want to. This country is still at least free enough for you to do that as long as healthcare isn’t involved. But I’m not going to be convinced by convoluted logic that goes solely by past performance and doesn’t consider current and trending performance.


40 posted on 07/05/2014 8:51:44 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: shove_it

“American made cars” = American assembled cars. Where are the steel factories and fab shops located where all the parts and sub-assembles are “made”?

May want to check your facts on that “assembled” part. Check out Bodine Aluminum for one. Never heard of them? They make the engine blocks and transmission housings for Toyota (they are owned by Toyota) There are more American companies making parts for these “assembled in America” cars than you could imagine


41 posted on 07/05/2014 8:57:47 AM PDT by Figment
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; Gaffer; nascarnation; Jim Noble; All

The headline for this article is:

“Made In America” Is Making a Comeback With an Unlikely Ally”

Nobody has commented here on the “Unlikely Ally” - WALMART. There is a link near the end of the article to products Walmart sells that are MADE IN AMERICA - 487 or them ...

http://www.walmart.com/cp/Made-in-the-USA/1104712


42 posted on 07/05/2014 9:01:43 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: shove_it

Yes. Understood it. I still try to confirm by whom and where in America these products are made.


43 posted on 07/05/2014 9:04:12 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: shove_it

Interesting link, thank you.

(Saved)


44 posted on 07/05/2014 9:07:39 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: shove_it
A FRED graph - how trustworthy is the Federal Reserve to calculate productivity accurately?

For example, I wonder if those numbers are as reliable as Climate change data....

45 posted on 07/05/2014 9:13:46 AM PDT by eldoradude (How many republicrats/demoblicans does it take to change a light bulb?)
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To: Figment

Good point. I’m sure there are others too but you would be sad to see the many, many abandoned shops, mills and factories in the “smoke stack” states around the Great Lakes “rust belt” if you have not seen them in person. There are sparks of recovery in some places but we need to be rid of the oppressive District of Criminals residing in Washington, DC.


46 posted on 07/05/2014 9:15:11 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I agree with you about jobs.

A good example is the business I'm in - we started out with web and application coding in California. Well paying jobs they were - also a huge expense to the company. C level was under pressure to cut costs so moved the web to Canada and the coding to China and Singapore. Definitely resulted in a huge drop in quality...but not enough to drive customers away - they just have lowered expectations now.

That seems to be the mood of the American consumer - go with the cheapest stuff and just put up with the low quality.

After all, who would buy an American-made toaster for $40 that would last for 50 years when you can get a $15 toaster at Walmart that will last for 2 years if you're lucky?

47 posted on 07/05/2014 9:25:21 AM PDT by eldoradude (How many republicrats/demoblicans does it take to change a light bulb?)
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To: Squawk 8888
I remember a lot of the steel mills in the USA (and a few in Canada) were in trouble because they never modernized.

True. I worked for Republic Steel one summer between college years back in the 1950s. I worked on the Open Hearth floor. The Open Hearth process was replaced by the Basic Oxygen process a few years later. Republic didn't adopt it for that mill. The mill is still sitting there, abandoned, to this day.

48 posted on 07/05/2014 9:30:50 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Book: Resistance to Tyranny. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: shove_it

I visited Arkansas for the first time in my life last month.
We went past the WM headquarters in Bentonville.
It is far different than I expected, extremely low key and low budget.
Without the signs one might mistake it for a prison building.
Many of the large adjacent buildings on the “campus” were sheet metal structures or what we’d call a “glorified pole barn” here in Indiana.

I’m sure when vendors come in to offer their product, they definitely get the message that it’s all about low costs and low prices.


49 posted on 07/05/2014 9:33:08 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: shove_it
Part of the reason for such a dramatic decline in manufacturing employment has been productivity gains.

Otherwise known as the replacement of labor with virtually free capital.

50 posted on 07/05/2014 9:54:03 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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