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Hillary Clinton Admits To Being a Money Launderer By Donating Her Speaking Fees to Her Clinton
Right Wing News ^ | July 5 2014 | Samuel Gonzalez

Posted on 07/05/2014 12:13:28 PM PDT by PoloSec

FULL TITLE: Hillary Clinton Admits To Being a Money Launderer By Donating Her Speaking Fees to Her Clinton Foundation

When I first read this ABC headline, Hillary Clinton Says She’s Donated All University Speaking Fees, I assumed the money was donated to an entity like the Red Cross or Catholic Charities, or other organization. But, after reading the article it turns out that Hillary is putting the money back into her own foundation.

ABC News reports Hillary Clinton continued to justify her high-dollar speaking fees on Friday, telling ABC News’ Ann Compton that all of the money she’s made from colleges over the past year and a half has been donated to her family’s foundation.

“All of the fees have been donated to the Clinton Foundation for it to continue its life-changing and life-saving work. So it goes from a foundation at a university to another foundation,” Clinton said when asked about the criticism she and her husband have faced recently for their wealth. Hillary Clinton reportedly makes roughly $200,000 for each speaking engagement. And recent reports show that she has made much more from some of the country’s top universities.

Donating the money to her own foundation is a slick way of paying herself. And that’s fine, but it’s dishonest for her to say she donating the money as if she’s giving it to some other charity she has nothing to do with.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cgi; clintonfoundation; hillarywealth

1 posted on 07/05/2014 12:13:28 PM PDT by PoloSec
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To: PoloSec


2 posted on 07/05/2014 12:16:31 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: PoloSec

tax free foundation that in reality is a family slush fund.


3 posted on 07/05/2014 12:18:23 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: PoloSec

>> I assumed the money was donated to an entity like the Red Cross or Catholic Charities, or other organization.

Whenever I hear a famous person talking about donating to charity, I always look for the “foundation” that was founded by said famous person and is often even named after them.

It’s mostly money-laundering, whether it be a rich Leftist, a Hollywood script reader, or a pro athlete.


4 posted on 07/05/2014 12:20:38 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyranni)
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To: PoloSec

Has someone actually checked out this foundation? For donations to be tax exempt, it has to follow SOME rules. It isn’t supposed to be a hermetically sealed black box. If her foundation is fraudulent that needs to be addressed on its own level. Yes I cam imagine the temptation to cheat is immense.


5 posted on 07/05/2014 12:22:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: elpadre

Are her speeches like her?...double-speak. Yes...but...


6 posted on 07/05/2014 12:22:28 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: PoloSec

As usual Hillary is giving herself the money. I want to know why this woman is not in prison?


7 posted on 07/05/2014 12:23:41 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It’s the William J. Clinton Foundation.


8 posted on 07/05/2014 12:23:57 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: elpadre

Tax free ?


9 posted on 07/05/2014 12:24:12 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: PoloSec

Money laundering. She sure is. She is money laundering to herself and her family and friends via the foundation.


10 posted on 07/05/2014 12:24:27 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: PoloSec

She’s so BROKE she has to have a foundation to hide the $$$.

She’s changing pockets.


11 posted on 07/05/2014 12:25:17 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’ve looked at some of their docs:

http://www.clintonfoundation.org/about/annual-financial-reports

But there’s no way of knowing how truthful they are. And I’m sure there’s “zero” chance the IRS is looking at them. It would be fun for President Cruz to have IRS Commissioner Trey Gowdy audit the living sh!t out of them in 2017 but that’s probably a dream....


12 posted on 07/05/2014 12:26:32 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: freekitty
She's taking the money legally - as a service FEE for administrative tasks to manage the foundation!
13 posted on 07/05/2014 12:27:10 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: Bryanw92

I see this as just one more sign of a fading empire, mainly because there is absolutely nothing productive about what’s going on with these giant foundations. At least the “robber barons” of yesteryear had thousands of miles of railroad and millions of tons of steel and iron production capacity to show for their efforts.


14 posted on 07/05/2014 12:29:25 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: PoloSec

“We are dirt poor. That foundation got all our money.”


15 posted on 07/05/2014 12:30:38 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: lonestar

You can probably find her speeches posted on Twofacebook.


16 posted on 07/05/2014 12:31:34 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: PoloSec

She lied when she said she pays the same tax as ordinary Americans.

Wouldn’t her donation be tax deductible?


17 posted on 07/05/2014 12:32:10 PM PDT by what's up
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To: PoloSec
No doubt about it...that is money laundering.

Now let's see who's getting paid as a leader of her charity??

18 posted on 07/05/2014 12:34:02 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Alberta's Child

>>I see this as just one more sign of a fading empire, mainly because there is absolutely nothing productive about what’s going on with these giant foundations. At least the “robber barons” of yesteryear had thousands of miles of railroad and millions of tons of steel and iron production capacity to show for their efforts.

They’re just building larger and larger barns. (Luke 12:13-21)


19 posted on 07/05/2014 12:34:09 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyranni)
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To: nascarnation
It would be fun for President Cruz to have IRS Commissioner Trey Gowdy audit the living sh!t out of them in 2017 but that’s probably a dream....

They won't be able to do that because on January 21st 2017 the IRS would be abolished by Executive Order, which is one of the few things an EO should be used for.

20 posted on 07/05/2014 12:35:38 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: PoloSec

https://capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/v1201803466.pdf


21 posted on 07/05/2014 12:42:18 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: PoloSec

The William Clinton foundation was originally the Hillary and Chelsea and Bubba Foundation.


22 posted on 07/05/2014 12:43:06 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: elpadre
tax free foundation that in reality is a family slush fund.

Bingo

23 posted on 07/05/2014 12:45:20 PM PDT by GOPJ (Why no outrage over IRS targeting? Same reason Pravda didn't make a stink about gulags.FREnterprise)
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To: PoloSec
When I first read this ABC headline, Hillary Clinton Says She’s Donated All University Speaking Fees, I assumed the money was donated to an entity like the Red Cross or Catholic Charities, or other organization.

I didn't.

24 posted on 07/05/2014 12:55:23 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Regulator
Now you're really dreaming...LOL

I assume selling the building would bring some decent money.


25 posted on 07/05/2014 12:56:44 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: All
Hillary: “All of the six-figure speaking fees have been donated to the Clinton Foundation for it to continue its life-changing and life-saving work."

Life-saving foundation work? Come Again. So how come the Clinton Foundation gave a grant to Harry Reid's grandaughter's little theatre group? Doesn't sound life-ssaving to me. (more below)

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HILLARY: "So the six-figure fees go from a foundation at a university to another foundation,” she told ABC News on Friday.

Oh really---does Hillary know the IRS has stated the biggest foundation scam (money laundering) is one foundation writing a check to another foundation---the shady way the foundation principles skim-off tax-free money for themselves.

Is that why the greedy Clintons formed THREE foundations---to move tax-free money around for themselves.....and for Hillary's ambition?

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The Harry Reid connection to the tax-exempt "Clinton Global Initiative" one of the three Clinton foundations needs to be investigated.

PUT ON YOUR TINFOIL HATS TO CONNECT THE DOTS:

(1) Harry Reid's son Rory is in business w/ the Chi/Coms on a multi-billion dollar solar energy project; Cliven Bundy and his land are standing in the way.

(2) Reports say Bill Clinton recently went to China to panhandle for his tax-exempt "Clinton Global Initiative" foundation.

(3) The "Clinton Global Initiative" (NOT KNOWN for giving out grants)---gave Harry Reid's granddaughter a grant for a Brooklyn, NY theatre she runs (what is a Brooklyn theatre's connection to "global initiatives?")

(4) A Nevada energy company also gave Reid's granddaughter's theatre group a grant.

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"Money laundering" comes to mind. Could the Chinese be financing the Reid's solar project through donations to the Clinton Foundations....which is then laundered to Reid's granddaughter?

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REFERENCE----HARRY REID IS LIVID THAT HIS GRAND-DAUGHTER HAS BEEN OUTED AS A RECIPIENT OF LAUNDERED CAMPAIGN CASH---Reid lashed out at reporters, saying, “My granddaughter has been the target of harassing phone calls, strangers tracking her down, knocking on her door and negative, unwanted attention on the Internet.” “This has gone too far and it needs to stop now,” Reid said. “I deeply regret any role I had in creating this situation but now, as a grandparent, I say enough is enough.”

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Besides the "jewelry company" financed by her grandfather, Ryan Elisabeth Reid runs the Sprat Theater Company, a small theater in Brooklyn, which is also coming under scrutiny. According to Sprat’s Theatre Company Web site, it has received grants/contributions from:

<><> the Clinton Global Initiative (connected to global terrorism via Muslim Brotherhood employee),
<><> two major Las Vegas foundations:
Caesar’s Foundation, and the NV Energy Foundation.

NOTE NV Energy Foundation---is a non-profit division of NV Energy (a public utility). The NV Energy utility is a subsidiary of MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company which took over in 2013....and is now owned by a Warren Buffet unit.

BTW, here's Harry w/ his grand-daughter....the one who got $31,000 in laundered campaign funds for her "jewelry company" and grants from Clinton and Nevada energy foundations.

Reid and granddaughter Ryan Elisabeth Reid.

26 posted on 07/05/2014 12:59:49 PM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Liz

She’s a nasty looking little twit.
But given the bloodline, easy to see why.


27 posted on 07/05/2014 1:01:40 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: nascarnation

Don’t worry, we can use the building as a dormitory for Guatemalan “children”

They can conduct Mayan cannibal rituals there to their heart’s content


28 posted on 07/05/2014 1:03:46 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: elpadre
She avoids paying taxes on that income by donating it to the slush fund. And the slush fund pays her mortgage, utilities, food bill, travel expenses, vacation costs, club membership and/or green fees for her husband, etc.

The rest of us have to pay our living expenses out of what remains after taxes. She pays hers out of pre-tax income, and effectively uses those costs as deductions.

Institutionalized corruption. Rahm Emmanuel takes it a step further by declaring his personal home as the office of some tax-free foundation, thus avoiding state and local real estate taxes as well. Funny how these same crooks lecture us about not paying our fair share. Once I saw how John and Teresa Kerry paid a tax rate less than half of what I paid on 1000 times the income, I knew that the level of corruption which permeates our ruling class can never be ameliorated.

29 posted on 07/05/2014 1:04:16 PM PDT by Hoodat (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Has someone actually checked out this foundation?

Yes. Lois Lerner. The details are in her email history.

30 posted on 07/05/2014 1:09:21 PM PDT by Bernard (The Road To Hell is not paved with good results.)
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To: Hoodat
Hillary avoids paying taxes on that mega-income by donating it to the founation slush fund..... the slush fund pays her mortgage, utilities, food bill, travel expenses, vacation costs, club membership and/or green fees for her husband, etc. The rest of us have to pay our living expenses out of what remains after taxes. She pays hers out of pre-tax income, and effectively uses those costs as deductions.

Plus both Clintons receive mega-pensions and lavish perks as govt retirees---getting ex-governor, senator, president and secy of state pensions and benefits.

Bill left the WH with a $400,000 lifetime salary, a $50,000 tax-free expense account, tax-paid benefits up the kazoo, free offices, plus his Governor of Arkansas pension and benefits.....

Not to mention all they could extort for the Clinton Library and three tax-exempt foundations......and so on, and so forth, ad infinitum, ad nauseaum.

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The mega-wealthy 2016 Hillary connivingly planned to campaign on "income inequality" .......running as a phony populist. Campaign strategists warned Hillary her "tone" is important.....(so she can better dupe the voters).

THANK YOU KELLY FILE Megyn ran a news clip of Hilly sing-songing "the cancer of inequality"....in a contrived sap-happy, chirpy voice, wearing a h-u-g-e phony grin.

Reminded me of the classic Willam Castle horror movie, "Mr Sardonicus," (whose face becomes frozen in a horrifying grin while robbing the coffin of his father's grave).

Hillary wears her perpetual 2016 game face.

31 posted on 07/05/2014 1:21:05 PM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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Clintons raised $2-3 billion in two decades
The Hill ^ | July 2, 2014 | Alexandra Jaffe / FR Posted by Cincinatus' Wife

Bill and Hillary Clinton raised from $2-3 billion in the two decades they’ve been prominent on the national stage, according to the Wall Street Journal.

The Journal tallied the Clintons’ speaking fees, fundraising for their foundation and the sums raised for Bill Clinton’s two presidential campaigns, for the Democratic National Committee while he was in office and for Hillary Clinton’s Senate and presidential campaigns.

Between $1.3-2 billion came from U.S. companies and industry sources, making up at least 75 percent of the sum — more than the 60 percent industry sources contributed to the two Bushes’ political operations.

The Journal reports that if Hillary Clinton runs for president in 2016, as expected, she could return such donors to the Democratic Party, a source of concern for Republican fundraisers as they gear up for what’s expected to be the most expensive presidential election in history.

Overall, the Clintons’ political operations raised $1.2 billion, their nonprofit drew between $750 million and $1.7 billion and they made about $100 million in speaking fees. --SNIP--

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QATAR DONOR TO CLINTON FOUNDATION/LIBRARY: As Hollywood hotshots protest the Beverly Hills Hotel over its ownership by Brunei's sultan and his embrace of Sharia law, it turns out the Brunei government has financial connections to "The Clinton Foundation."

The tax-exempt, nonprofit Clinton foundation lists Brunei along with Kuwait, Oman and Qatar (new home of the Gitmo Five) as donors that gave between $1 million and $5 million through last year.

The Clinton foundation itself confirmed the 2002 Brunei donation: "The Clinton Foundation's impact would not be possible without the generous support of our donors," the foundation's website reads. "Their contributions have made a difference in the lives of tens of millions across the world." Read more at foxnews.com ...

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W/ a straight face, Hillary recently told Greta the Gitmo Five are NOT a problem to the US. BUT...due to her "concussion" (cackle) she completely forgot to mention the Quatar donation.

32 posted on 07/05/2014 1:25:19 PM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Liz

She looks like a very young Helen Thomas...


33 posted on 07/05/2014 1:26:05 PM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: Hoodat

Sooo...shouldn’t the rest of us be able to do that as well?


34 posted on 07/05/2014 1:31:46 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Sacajaweau

That could read like a RICO indictment....


35 posted on 07/05/2014 1:32:50 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Regulator

.... because on January 21st 2017 the IRS would be abolished by Executive Order
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There needs to be a “mopping up” crew for old business ,, maybe keep the auditors and investigators for perhaps 2 years and place them under the Treasury with a new name (not IRS).


36 posted on 07/05/2014 1:36:27 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Bryanw92
hillary is so out of touch. A lot of those grads she's paid to speak to have horrendous college debt and/or the need for money to get started in life. The money would be better spent as a tuition reimbursement split among the graduates.

I never knew speakers got fees and expenses to speak at graduation. I thought it was an honor, not a money transfer scam to the elite. If they do speak, it should be for free, and the only reward should be an honorary degree.

I wonder how much other college money is wasted.

37 posted on 07/05/2014 1:47:22 PM PDT by grania
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Equal protection? Surely you jest. Democrats have been feverishly fighting against equal protection since 1828.


38 posted on 07/05/2014 2:05:07 PM PDT by Hoodat (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: what's up

This is the woman who, as First Lady of Arkansas, took tax deductions for her husband’s worn underwear they “donated” to charity. Anyone think for one second she hasn’t figured out the tax angles on foundations?

I’ve said elsewhere, this foundation to foundation money laundering has got to stop. By law, foundations must give away X% of their assets each year. So the “Clinton Foundation” will give to the “Reid Foundation” that in turn donates to the “Pelosi Foundation” ad nauseam. Remember the Planned Parenthood/ Komen flap?


39 posted on 07/05/2014 2:23:44 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: ken5050

Mmmmmmm......now that you mention it, she does look like the late unlamented journo (who looked dead even when she was alive).


40 posted on 07/05/2014 2:28:09 PM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: PoloSec

Criminals beget criminals


41 posted on 07/05/2014 2:47:30 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: grania

>>hillary is so out of touch.

>>I never knew speakers got fees and expenses to speak at graduation. I thought it was an honor, not a money transfer scam to the elite. If they do speak, it should be for free, and the only reward should be an honorary degree.

Colleges are out of touch with reality. That’s the unintended consequence of student loans. They don’t care how much the tuition is because no one has to pay it right now (except for a few adult learners who don’t have a voice on campus anyway).

I working on my Bachelors degree at age 51 and the costs are just insane. I get 80% reimbursement on tuition and 50% on books from my employer, and even the part that I pay is criminal. But that’s how the system works. Experience, talent, and self-learning counts for nothing. All that matters is that very expensive piece of paper that shows that you can think inside the box and follow instructions.


42 posted on 07/05/2014 2:51:34 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyranni)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Has someone actually checked out this foundation?

Yeah, but she's now retired from the IRS and keeping her lips sealed about her career for some reason.

43 posted on 07/05/2014 2:54:35 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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To: what's up
Wouldn’t her donation be tax deductible?

If she declares it as income, as she's supposed to and then takes it as a deduction, it's a wash.

44 posted on 07/05/2014 3:15:08 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ( What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 1 Cor. 13, V.36)
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To: Regulator; nascarnation

Besides, Gowdy’s skills would make him a great AG


45 posted on 07/05/2014 4:21:40 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: Sivad
You can probably find her speeches posted on Twofacebook.

Wouldn't surprise me if there is a third face we haven't seen yet. She's a piece of work!

46 posted on 07/05/2014 4:37:18 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Hoodat
Equal protection? Surely you jest.

No, and don't call me Shirley.

Seems like the best job you can get, is to become the CEO of a nonprofit....your own. How about a nice "green" legal defense fund?

Eh?

47 posted on 07/05/2014 5:36:49 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: PoloSec
Hillary Clinton gets $200,000 per school, Bill gets $200,000 per school, Al Gore probably gets $200,000 per school, most liberals are sucking hundreds of thousands of dollars per school for speeches.

And they wonder why university tuitions are so high?

-PJ

48 posted on 07/05/2014 5:42:45 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Ken522

Yeah, that’s like Congress telling us their extortion is legal. BS.


49 posted on 07/06/2014 10:57:23 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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