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Why We Stuck With Maliki -- And Lost Iraq [Important read!!]
Washington Post ^ | 07/05/2014 | Ali Khedery

Posted on 07/05/2014 1:37:03 PM PDT by Enchante

Edited on 07/05/2014 1:40:25 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

To understand why Iraq is imploding, you must understand Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki — and why the United States has supported him since 2006.

I have known Maliki, or Abu Isra, as he is known to people close to him, for more than a decade. I have traveled across three continents with him. I know his family and his inner circle. When Maliki was an obscure member of parliament, I was among the very few Americans in Baghdad who took his phone calls. In 2006, I helped introduce him to the U.S. ambassador, recommending him as a promising option for prime minister. In 2008, I organized his medevac when he fell ill, and I accompanied him for treatment in London, spending 18 hours a day with him at Wellington Hospital. In 2009, I lobbied skeptical regional royals to support Maliki’s government.

By 2010, however, I was urging the vice president of the United States and the White House senior staff to withdraw their support for Maliki. I had come to realize that if he remained in office, he would create a divisive, despotic and sectarian government that would rip the country apart and devastate American interests.

TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: biden; delusion; democrats; forbeforeagainst; foritbeforeagainstit; hillary; iraq; iraqmeltdown; isis; liberals; maliki; mentaldisorder; middleeast; obama; terror; terrorism; wot
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To: Enchante


21 posted on 07/05/2014 4:08:29 PM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: Enchante

I read this, this morning. It is an excellent article and read. Maliki needs to go and sooner is better. He has used his position as a means to settle his grudges and hatred for Sunni and the former baathists. Until he goes of his own accord or thrown out the current situation will not settle down. Once it does, the marginalized Sunni tribes will kick ISIS to the curb . The Sunni and a fair amount of the Iraqi Shia are fed up with Iran’s hands in the country. Currently a moderate Shia leader in Karbela is urging with his tribal influence against the Mullahs call for rising to the call of Militia. At some point the west is going to need to kill the ISIS. But with only 20% ISIS as estimated in the Iraq group revolting, we need to be careful to stay out. The big mistake was by Obama and company not supporting Allawi. He’s a decent moderate, friend of the US (or was prior to zero. We should have got that status of forces agreement and kept 10,000 troops in Iraq, which would have been to our own benefit, as history is showing us.

22 posted on 07/05/2014 5:25:29 PM PDT by Trapper6012
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To: Enchante

“he would create a divisive, despotic and sectarian government that would rip the country apart and devastate American interests.”

So will the next muzzie leader... and the next one... and the next one...

23 posted on 07/05/2014 5:43:58 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Enchante.

24 posted on 07/05/2014 8:32:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (
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To: Marine_Uncle

heyyy Marine_Uncle, yes it’s been too long, I haven’t been around much.... hope to start changing that.....

25 posted on 07/05/2014 9:00:39 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: alloysteel

I’m all for Sunni-Shi’a mutual destruction if they would really limit it to each other, but I think that disorder in Iraq (1) gives Iran much better prospects for moving toward a dominant role in the region, and (2) anywhere that large numbers of Islamist fanatics are schooled in fighting and terrorist techniques increases the chances that they will spill out into other countries over time, as Al Qaeda formed in Afghanistan etc.

I think we’d be better off seeing a stable Iraq that is not a puppet of Iran, but the time for that may already be passed. Obozo and company screwed the pooch, on this as in so many other ways.

26 posted on 07/05/2014 9:04:18 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante
RE: "hope to start changing that....."
HIS will be done. Hang in there John.
27 posted on 07/05/2014 9:38:03 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Enchante

Bush’s fault. So says the MSM.

Obama just ‘inherited the situation.’

28 posted on 07/06/2014 12:35:13 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Enchante

Russia seems to be on a big hegemony mission - one can only imagine the way the Bear exerts its power if it is successful in its endeavors. Doesn’t seem to be any graceful path to follow so I’ll go along with your flow for now.

29 posted on 07/06/2014 2:12:41 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Enchante
...has been maintained in power by fraud, legal corruption

Has much in common with Obama's second term.

30 posted on 07/06/2014 6:55:54 AM PDT by faszakutya
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To: Enchante

It came right up. I using GChrome. Sometimes things don’t show with my normal provider service explorer.

31 posted on 07/06/2014 7:26:15 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Illegal immigrants = Instant new democrat voters!)
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To: Enchante
Re: “Why We Stuck With Maliki — And Lost Iraq”

I was under the impression we “stuck” with him because he was the democratically elected leader of Iraq!

32 posted on 07/06/2014 11:06:23 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Trapper6012

Spot on. Max Boot said this as well.

I mean Iyad Allawi is no Abraham Lincoln, but he’s leaps and bounds better than any other leader in the Arab world, plus it would have been good to see a democratic change of power there to shake things up.

33 posted on 07/06/2014 12:34:01 PM PDT by ksm1
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To: Enchante

Great article from the Washington Post. Kind of surprising, coming from a liberal newspaper.

34 posted on 07/06/2014 2:19:06 PM PDT by paristexas
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To: Enchante

No .....we stuck with islum and lost Iraq.

Once we allowed their constitution to state “NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM”, we should have left.

Iraq’s number one religious leader is Sistani, born in Iran.
60 percent are Shiites, like 90 percent in Iran.

Today Iraq is just WEST IRAN.

35 posted on 07/06/2014 8:56:27 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Enchante

So in 2010, Iran started throwing it’s weight around in Iraq. Maliki sided with Iran, and the Obama admin. turned a blind eye, although they were warned otherwise. Ok

Why does the Obama administration, along with the media, now pretend that Iran is going to be of benefit to Iraq and the US with a “new alliance”? I think if the media didn’t constantly regurgitate White House baffling talking points, things would make more sense.

Obama’s received cheering endorsements by Chavez and Ahmadinejad which should have sounded the alarm bells years ago. The media didn’t blink.

““Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation’s fury”. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Obama has been partial to Iran since he was elected
US allows Iran its nuclear vision

“Criminal plans” by Iran could be under way in Brazil, Colombia, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay Suriname and Trinidad and Tobago, the report said.

“They are more involved in the cocaine trade than ever before, and have greater access in the region due their allies in Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia and elsewhere,” Farah said. “ CNN 2013

Radical Islamic terrorists groups are tied to Hezbollah, which was formed and funded by Iran. The US government knows very well that Hezbollah is working throughout South America and Canada “America’s back yard”. Iran is dangerous, and suddenly the sanctions in place against Iran are meaningless as American defense contractors, and “green” energy companies are selling to Iran? Baffling doesn’t quite describe it.

36 posted on 07/07/2014 5:55:34 AM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: TomasUSMC

Nov. 2013 Breitbart

Last week, the Times of Israel reported that senior presidential adviser Valerie Jarrett had been leading talks with Iran in secret for a year before the formal negotiations in Geneva this month. While the White House denied the report “100 percent,” the existence of back-channel talks has been confirmed by other reporting. The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday that President Barack Obama had “personally overseen” the talks.

37 posted on 07/07/2014 5:59:08 AM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: zeestephen
no, as the article describes, he has kept himself in power by anti-democratic measures and LOST the popular vote in the 2010 election:
"[Maliki] coerced Iraq’s chief justice to bar some of his rivals from participating in the elections in March 2010. After the results were announced and Maliki lost to a moderate, pro-Western coalition encompassing all of Iraq’s major ethno-sectarian groups, the judge issued a ruling that awarded Maliki the first chance to form a government, ushering in more tensions and violence"

38 posted on 07/12/2014 2:10:43 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante
Yes, Ali Khedery’s editorial does claim that Maliki stole the election.

However, I can't recall hearing anything about that from the Obama administration in 2010.

Only now, 4 years later, after Al-Qaeda has seized one third of Iraq during Obama’s watch, have the MSM and the State Department decided they need a fall guy who is not named Obama.

Also, the fact that Maliki’s minority party succeeded in forming a government did not depend on going first.

Maliki would have been doing exactly the same coalition building and favor trading no matter who went first.

Finally, as far as I know, Maliki has never lost a no confidence vote, so he must be doing something right.

39 posted on 07/12/2014 10:30:33 PM PDT by zeestephen
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