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Report: Murdered Arab Teen 'Was Burned Alive'
Arutz Sheva ^ | 5/7/14

Posted on 07/05/2014 3:32:40 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

An Arab teenager whose abduction and murder triggered violent protests was burned alive, autopsy reports show, as clashes over the killing spread Saturday from Jerusalem to Arab Israeli towns.

Mohammed Abu Khder, 16, was abducted from his Shuafat neighborhood in Jerusalem early Wednesday, and his charred body found not long afterwards in a the Jerusalem Forest.

Palestinians have blamed Jewish extremists for killing him in revenge for the kidnapping and murder in last month of three Israeli teenagers.

Palestinian news agency Maan quoted Palestinian Authority Attorney General Mohammed Aluweiwi on Saturday as saying the initial findings of a post-mortem indicated the presence of smoke in the boy's lungs, meaning he was still alive while being burned.

Abu Khder also suffered a head wound, but that was not the cause of death, Aluweiwi added.

Israeli police said they still could not confirm the motive for Abu Khder's murder.

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(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abukhder; arab; burn; hamas; israel; mohammedabukhder; stih; teen
Death by fire is Biblical punishment for homosexuality. Wouldn't be surprised if the Koran mirrors it.

'Honor killing': Arab teen in Jerusalem murdered by family because he was gay? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3175113/posts

Footage 'Shows Moment Arab Teen Abducted'; but Questions Remain http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3175747/posts

So it's an honor killing, taqiya, causes riots and might have caused a forest fire. Definite no-brainer for Koranimals.

1 posted on 07/05/2014 3:32:41 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

yeah that doesn’t sound like something the Israelis do....


2 posted on 07/05/2014 3:37:37 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Carbon footprint, and all.


3 posted on 07/05/2014 3:38:58 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You can count my felonies by looking at my FR replies.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Palestinians do a very good job of controlling the Anti Jewish media..take the focus off of the slaughter of three Israeli teens by killing one of their own..this kid was killed by his own family as an honor killing because he is gay..notice how now the media won’t even mention the three Israeli teens..they no longer matter, not like the media ever gave a damn about them anyway


4 posted on 07/05/2014 3:40:00 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Their Saudi stock holders told them to.


5 posted on 07/05/2014 3:44:42 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

The murderous, subhuman, muzzie troglodytes-from-hell did it. I’d place big money ($5) on it.


6 posted on 07/05/2014 3:45:59 PM PDT by carriage_hill ( Incoming fire always has the right of way.)
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To: carriage_hill

Won’t take that bet.


7 posted on 07/05/2014 3:46:49 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5; All
"Death by fire is Biblical punishment for homosexuality."

Will you please substantiate your assertion concerning death by fire with a verse reference? Leviticus 20:13 (NIV) says only that offenders must be put to death.

8 posted on 07/05/2014 3:47:30 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Eleutheria5

Mooselimb style murder.

Pray America wakes up


9 posted on 07/05/2014 3:48:29 PM PDT by bray (Buy my book: http://braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: Eleutheria5; carriage_hill
Won’t take that bet.

I'll see that $5 and raise it $20.The Religion of Pieces gave this punk a chance to be a "martyr" and he took it,believing that he'd be communing with his "virgins" within minutes.

10 posted on 07/05/2014 3:51:23 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Gay State Conservative

or in his case the boys like pearls.


11 posted on 07/05/2014 3:59:35 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5; Amendment10
Will you please substantiate your assertion concerning death by fire with a verse reference?

That's my question too.

12 posted on 07/05/2014 4:07:02 PM PDT by BykrBayb (World Lung Cancer Day {WLCD} Aug 1 https://facebook.com/events/309580722464921 ~ Þ)
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To: Amendment10

Just when I need one, I can’t find more than the bare text of Leviticus. I’ll get back to you on this tomorrow night.


13 posted on 07/05/2014 4:13:51 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5; Amendment10
I'm just going off memory here, but the common Pentateuch method of putting offenders to death was by stoning. Often it just says 'put to death'. I believe if a man married a daughter AND her mother they were all to be burned to death, but that is the only one I vaguely remember that involved burning.
The rest: rape, murder, sodomites, bestiality, abortionists -- death by stoning, or put to death ....
14 posted on 07/05/2014 4:16:46 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: El Cid

I hear you. But my memory is that homosexual anal sex is punishable by fire. Tomorrow I’ll be near a better library than my home’s, so I’ll look into it more thoroughly.


15 posted on 07/05/2014 4:33:53 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
The crime was witnessed by this Lebanese woman (Flat Fatima) who, once again, just happened to be in the area.

She has an unusual knack of being in the area of alleged Israeli violence where she always provides reliable eyewittness accounts.


16 posted on 07/05/2014 4:40:39 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: Eleutheria5
It took me awhile, but this is the passage I was thinking of:

Leviticus 20:14 And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you.

If you find any other example (not counting the burning of children to Moloch -- because God was condemning those actions), I'd be interested. 'Put to death' might compass various means, but I believe the direction to burn an offender with fire is only in the Leviticus 20:14 reference. Thanks.

Kind of a mootish point though. Someone burnt this teenager to death (after apparently clubbing him over the head). I seriously doubt it was an Israeli as I think they'd be content with a bullet if it was strictly an act of revenge. And I doubt going after a random single teenager would explain the revenge factor. Probably other factors are involved.

17 posted on 07/05/2014 4:41:26 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: El Cid

Going right into an Arab neighborhood to do it also doesn’t sound like Jewish extremists, since they’d have to go outside their own turf and deep into injun country. The three teens were abducted near the Old Gate of Alon Shevut, right near an Arab village, but on the open road (personally, I suspect left-wing Jewish involvement in collaboration with Hamas).

Will get back to you on the Biblical thing.


18 posted on 07/05/2014 4:47:23 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
You are probably extrapolating from Genesis 19 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

As for Islam, Almost all sahabas agreed on severe punishment for homosexual. Some agree they should be burned and stoned, other said they should be thrown from height and then stoned, some said they should just be stoned, but most agreed, their punishment would be death.

19 posted on 07/05/2014 4:49:02 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Eleutheria5

Iirc, Muzzies don’t permit autopsies. How then, does one assess the condition of his lungs in a ‘postmortem exam’?


20 posted on 07/05/2014 4:51:28 PM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: af_vet_1981

That would be helpful, since the Soddomites were threatening to gang bang Lot’s angelical guests. But not determinative. Must sleep. Near 3 am here.


21 posted on 07/05/2014 4:52:55 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: davius

Just speak to the Muslims who burned him, and then claim it was the Jooos!


22 posted on 07/05/2014 4:54:08 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.

The Muslim Inquisition, that's a different matter.

23 posted on 07/05/2014 4:59:32 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: yldstrk
The Sahaabah were unanimously agreed on the execution of homosexuals, but they differed as to how they were to be executed. Some of them were of the view that they should be burned with fire, which was the view of ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) and also of Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him), as we shall see below. And some of them thought that they should be thrown down from a high place then have stones thrown at them. This was the view of Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him).

http://islamqa.info/en/38622

24 posted on 07/05/2014 5:00:46 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Even if it was the Palestinians that did it, the MSM would blackout the story. Politicized journalism has created an information wilderness.


25 posted on 07/05/2014 6:07:50 PM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: Eleutheria5
I like to think that I am as pro-Israel as anyone here but I found it remarkable that virtually none of the first 25 responses seemed to express much regret as to the murder of this Palestinian teenager. Likewise, there is too little sympathy for the three murdered Jewish teenagers. I fail to see why it was necessary for any of these four young men to be killed by anyone. It is a tragedy in each case. May God have mercy on their souls.

I don't believe that ANY of them were subject to the death penalty under Israeli law. I do not expect the Palestinian "government" agrees but that does not constitute a license for Palestinians to kill Jewish young people. There does not seem to be much proof of self-defense claims. The suspects in the killing of the Jewish boys seem to be Hamas killers of known identity. Whether the Palestinian boy was killed by Jewish counterparts or as a Muslim "honor killing," the killer(s) had no legitimate excuse. Revenge against random others is no excuse whatsoever. Life at hard labor for each killer and may the killers repent.

26 posted on 07/05/2014 11:17:54 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: El Cid

Mea culpa. somehow i conflated verse 13 with verse 14 of Leviticus 20. Maimonides in Sefer Hamitzvot confirms that homo anal sex is punishable by stoning, whereas mother/daughter threesoms get burnt. but it seems that these particular muzzies held with the burning faction in sharia.


27 posted on 07/06/2014 2:26:23 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: davius

More to the point, who gave the PA custody of the victim’s corpse? This was murder that occurred in Jerusalem, where only Israeli police have jurisdiction.


28 posted on 07/06/2014 2:30:54 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: BlackElk

I may sound cold blooded, but i can’t muster sympathy for the dead. when the three teens were believed alive, they had my prayers. now, i’m interested in justice and the facts. they’re with G-d, Whose mercies are infinite, and the same with the Abu Khder kid. Who killed him and why is the more important question.


29 posted on 07/06/2014 2:38:40 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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