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Why are liberal 'gay' activists freaking out over a contraception case -- Hobby Lobby
Renew America ^ | 7-4-14 | Peter LaBarbera

Posted on 07/05/2014 4:14:51 PM PDT by ReformationFan

Why are liberal 'gay' activists freaking out over a contraception case -- Hobby Lobby -- and should they be worried?

Court's defense of religious liberty for profit-making companies could help Christian small businessmen oppressed by "gay rights" laws

By Peter LaBarbera

It's easy to understand why hard-core feminists with their frenzied, overblown "War on Women" rhetoric would be outraged by the Supreme Court's upholding of Hobby Lobby's right as a Christian-run corporation not to be forced to provide abortifacients to its employees through an Obamacare mandate. (See Hillary's misinformation on the decision HERE.) But why are liberal "gay" activists freaking out over the Hobby Lobby ruling?

The case was never about denying women birth control, but you wouldn't know that from the "reporting" by liberal media and hyperventilating "progressive" bloggers. Hobby Lobby still provides 16 forms of birth control as a health benefit to its employees, but its founders – along with another Christian-owned corporation, Conestoga Wood Specialists – sued HHS over being forced to provide four contraceptive methods that could terminate a fertilized egg.

Hobby Lobby's founders, David and Barbara Green, are committed Christians who believe that life begins at conception and should be protected. To quote the Court decision, "Hobby Lobby's statement of purpose commits the Greens to '[h]onoring the Lord in all [they] do by operating the company in a manner consistent with Biblical principles.'" So strong is the Greens' commitment to Jesus Christ that they have lost countless millions of dollars in profits over the years by closing their 500 craft stores nationwide on Sunday.

Now, one would think that obtaining cheap, subsidized contraception would be low on the priority list for homosexuals, seeing that two men or two women by themselves cannot produce a child. Nevertheless, Big Gay Inc is in a tizzy over the Supreme Court decision – because Burwell vs. Hobby Lobby isn't really about contraceptives, but rather whether Americans like the Greens will be free to live out their religious convictions.

Immediately after the decision, feminists flew into a rage, circulating crude versions of Justice Ginsburg's dissent and distortions about women being denied birth control by their "male bosses." Too bad most Americans will never read the actual Hobby Lobby decision – which lays out two diametrically opposed, competing visions about freedom of conscience and the role of government in these United States.

Freedom of conscience vs. Big Government

On the side of preserving and even expanding Americans' religious liberty were five judges: Alito, Kennedy, Roberts, Scalia and Thomas. In his concurring opinion Kennedy writes: "In our constitutional tradition, freedom means that all persons have the right to believe or strive to believe in a divine creator and a divine law. For those who choose this course, free exercise is essential in preserving their own dignity and in striving for a self-definition shaped by their religious precepts. Free exercise in this sense implicates more than just freedom of belief....It means, too, the right to express those beliefs and to establish one's religious (or non-religious) self-definition in the political, civic, and economic life of our larger community." On the other side – of Big Government overriding citizens' religious beliefs, restricting conscience exemptions to federal mandates, and putting federal power behind expanded access to entitlements – were Ginsburg, Sotomayor, Breyer and Kagan. In fact, Ginsburg spends nearly two pages in her dissent [see pp. 24-25] defending the idea that Obamacare's provision of subsidies for IUD's (intrauterine devices) – one of the four contraceptives resisted by Hobby Lobby as a potential abortifacient – is a "compelling government interest."

As much as Ginsburg believes the majority's "immoderate" reading of Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) is too broad, hers is too narrow: she ends by arguing that exemptions under the RFRA should be limited to explicitly religious organizations – leaving for-profit Christian businessmen like the Greens unprotected.

The bigger government gets – in both its "social justice" mission and the amount of goodies it gives out as "entitlements" – the greater the threat to Americans' right to freely exercise their faith. This is precisely why homosexual activists are nervous about Hobby Lobby's victory. If the nation's highest court grants that even very large "closely held" family businesses like Hobby Lobby (which has more than 13,000 employees) possess a religious liberty claim under RFRA, then surely small family businesses like Elane Photography in New Mexico – owned by Jonathan and Elaine Huguenin – should have the right not to use their creative talents to serve homosexual "weddings," which violate their Christian faith.

Sure, Justice Alito explicitly states that the Hobby Lobby decision is narrow and does not apply to exemptions from nondiscrimination laws. But reading the majority's language, it is hard to imagine that the same five Supreme Court judges would force mom-and-pop bakeries – or Christian husband-and-wife photographers like the Huguenins – to violate their faith by forcing them to participate in immoral "gay weddings."

Ginsburg, on the other hand, is quite ready to deny Christian-owned businesses the freedom to live out their convictions in the public square. Why? Because they make a profit – precisely the legal dichotomy shot down by Alito and his four allies on the Court. Ginsburg specifically cites the Elane Photography case as evidence of the slippery slope of RFRA/religious-liberty legal claims that she believes will result from the Hobby Lobby decision.

Some libertarian homosexuals like University of Minnesota law professor Dale Carpenter advocate for limited religious exemptions to pro-homosexual nondiscrimination laws. But other, left-leaning homosexual activists – far more vocal and dominant in the LGBT political sphere – are on record defending the absurd proposition that faith-impelled small businessmen who refuse to serve homosexual "weddings" are the moral equivalent of the KKK, resurrecting an "anti-gay" version of Jim Crow laws.

Because, you see, not being able to use the government to force devout Christians, Orthodox Jews, or Muslims to take pictures at or bake a cake for a homosexual "wedding" – when there are plenty of competing wedding businesses that would gladly do so – is analogous to Blacks in the 50's being denied the use of "Whites Only" public restrooms and water fountains. Right. Go ahead and try making that case to a Black American.

Homosexual militant Wayne Besen denounced Hobby Lobby as one of the worst Supreme Court decisions ever: "Because of this decision, business owners will have enormous leverage to impose their religious beliefs in the workplace, and to coerce employees into abiding by them," he warned ominously. Besen is hardly alone on the LGBT side in arguing that anyone who enters the stream of commerce – essentially every small business – should be barred legally from "discriminating" against homosexuals.

Last year, the New Mexico Supreme Court essentially agreed with Besen by unanimously upholding the Huguenin's "anti-gay discrimination" conviction (including a $6,000 fine) for politely declining to shoot photos at a lesbian "commitment ceremony." One of the justices, Richard Bosson, asserted in a concurring opinion against the Christian photographers: "In the smaller, more focused world of the marketplace, of commerce, of public accommodation, the Huguenins have to channel their conduct, not their beliefs, so as to leave space for other Americans who believe something different." That, the judge said, is the "price of citizenship."

One Nation, under Tolerance?

One wonders: Is this the same America that was founded by men and women fleeing religious persecution and government tyranny? Incidentally, the same Wayne Besen above is leading the "gay" activist crusade to ban pro-heterosexual change therapy for minors – succeeding in California and New Jersey. Besen applauded the Supreme Court for denying cert on a legal challenge to the California case, thus paving the way for the ex-"gay" therapy ban in that state. This is yet another LGBT assault on liberty, self-determination, and parental rights.

The reality is, religious and moral freedom are in grave danger in the USA. Pro-life advocates must realize that powerful homosexual groups like Human Rights Campaign – who have long worked hand-in-hand with the pro-abortion lobby – are now joining with radical feminists to deny religious Americans their right to refuse pro-abortion and pro-homosexual government mandates.

I believe Burwell vs. Hobby Lobby portends well for the right of small-business-owning traditionalists to preserve at least some of their Christian principles and integrity by not celebrating sexual immorality. However, pro-family advocates should not get too excited about the Supreme Court – which has already seriously constricted Americans' freedom to organize against pro-homosexual laws. (See Roemer v. Evans, a 1996 Court decision written by Justice Kennedy that struck down Amendment Two, a statewide measure passed by Colorado voters that barred all levels of state government from enacting "special rights" laws based on homosexuality.)

Justice Kennedy: hero to homosexuals

The same Justice Anthony Kennedy who sided with the Hobby Lobby majority also wrote the atrocious 5-4 decision in United States v. Windsor eviscerating DOMA , the bipartisan Defense of Marriage Act signed into law by Bill Clinton. That paved the way for pro-homosexual-"marriage" judges across the United States to overturn popular defense-of-marriage amendments and laws in one state after another, most recently in Kentucky.

Kennedy is regarded as a hero by LGBT activists, the brave enforcer of their fallacious 'homosexuality-as-a-civil-right' equation. In striking down a core provision of DOMA, he sounded like a "gay " activist as he arrogantly portrayed opponents of same-sex "marriage" – even the congressional creators of DOMA – as hateful bigots insensitive to the plight of homosexual-led families. Cleary, Kennedy believes that allowing homosexuals to "marry" is a "compelling government interest" – which is why many veteran conservative observers like Maggie Gallagher expect to see the Supreme Court nationalize "same-sex marriage" when the appeals of judicial take-downs of state marriage amendments collectively reach the Court in the not too distant future.

If Kennedy again aligns with the four judges who dissented on Hobby Lobby to create a federal "constitutional right" for homosexuals to "marry" – thus overriding those state amendments – it will mean that millions upon millions of business owners effectively would be forced to provide marital-type benefits for their homosexual employees. To many people of faith, this equates to rewarding sexual immorality with their company's hard-earned profits, of which they are stewards and through which they seek to honor God.

Christians and religious-minded citizens don't leave their faith at home or in church – and they shouldn't lose their First Amendment liberties – just because they make money. This is the essence of the Hobby Lobby decision, but how will it fare against the rapidly emerging liberal legal consensus of homosexual "marriage" as a supposed constitutionally protected "right"?

Most Americans have not thought through the far-reaching ramifications of legalizing "gay marriage." For one, every child in a public school will be taught that "marriage" between two men or two women is morally equivalent to the real thing. And if "gay" relationships are equal, according to the Left's simplistic "Love is Love" formula, then homosexual sex must be taught alongside natural sex in health classes. (Remember: we mustn't judge!) Social engineering of this sort deeply offends faith-motivated parents and it will surely lead to escalating legal challenges pitting religious freedom against "gay" activism.

The "zero-sum game" cultural war between First Amendment/religious liberties and homosexual "rights" in America will go on for decades. Homosexual activist lawyers are playing for keeps and expect to win. We should be thankful for the Hobby Lobby victory, but sober about the direction of U.S. courts. For as the Greens, Huguenins, and many others like them have learned the hard way, "diversity" is liberal code for mandatory "progressive" conformity, and the New Tolerance isn't really tolerant after all.

© Peter LaBarbera


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortifacient; abortions; birthcontrol; gaynewsrooms; hissyfit; hobbylobby; homosexualagenda; hysteria; labarbera; moralabsolutes; peterlabarbera; prolife; waronwomenmeme
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To paraphrase a classic song:

"Abortion and 'gay' marriage go together like a horse and carriage."

1 posted on 07/05/2014 4:14:51 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
Why are liberal 'gay' activists freaking out over a contraception case ?

Because freaking out gets them high?

2 posted on 07/05/2014 4:18:00 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: ReformationFan

They want others to share in guilt?


3 posted on 07/05/2014 4:19:02 PM PDT by boycott
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To: ReformationFan

The gay lobby always had abortion as the #1 issue, even more than marriage. Unfortunately, the wholesale legalization of gay marriage probably takes abortion completely off the table.


4 posted on 07/05/2014 4:20:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: ReformationFan

They lost a battle and they are crying like little girls.


5 posted on 07/05/2014 4:21:34 PM PDT by FreeperCell
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To: ReformationFan

I sent my lesbian cousin off the rails the other day over this.

I asked why it was so important to her and she said her “wife” has been raped 4 times by the same man. I asked if she was sure she was a lesbian because continuing to go back to the same place and putting herself alone with the same “rapist” 4 times without reporting it to the police seems to indicate a certain degree of willingness on her part.


6 posted on 07/05/2014 4:21:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: nickcarraway

Maybe its as you just expressed, in only a few tight sentences. The article goes on and on for a while. I’ll need to come back to it later.


7 posted on 07/05/2014 4:22:42 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Steely Tom

Drama Queens. Pun intended.


8 posted on 07/05/2014 4:25:36 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo (The more helpless the victim, the more hideous the assault.)
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To: cripplecreek
I asked if she was sure she was a lesbian because continuing to go back to the same place and putting herself alone with the same “rapist” 4 times without reporting it to the police seems to indicate a certain degree of willingness on her part.

Can you post a video of that?

9 posted on 07/05/2014 4:26:13 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: nickcarraway

It’s the complete and wholesale separation of procreation from the marital act is what unites the two issues. Obviously, life can never come from homosexual acts while contraception and abortions destroy any life created via heterosexual acts.

Essentially, homosexuality and abortion are intrinsically anti-life and pro-death.


10 posted on 07/05/2014 4:26:14 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Steely Tom

Because freaking out gets them high?


Close. The difference between the Left and the Right is that the Left can’t tolerate any defeat. They will strategize day and night for a way to turn this around. In contrast, the Right will all to often just shrug when defeated.

Unlike the Right, the Lefties often don’t have families to focus on, so they can spend that much more time on their causes. This is especially true for the Gay ones.


11 posted on 07/05/2014 4:27:58 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: ReformationFan

Because if they can use the power of government to force a business to do this. Then they can use the same precedent to force a church to do that.

Fill in your own blanks.


12 posted on 07/05/2014 4:29:25 PM PDT by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: ReformationFan

2 words. Butt Babies.


13 posted on 07/05/2014 4:32:05 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: ReformationFan

Is this a faggot which I see before me,

The handle toward my hand? Come, let me clutch thee.

I have thee not, and yet I see thee still.

Lady Barack


14 posted on 07/05/2014 4:32:15 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Samurai_Jack

I think that about sums it up. And all in the name of “freedom”.


15 posted on 07/05/2014 4:39:14 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: cripplecreek
I asked why it was so important to her and she said her “wife” has been raped 4 times by the same man. I asked if she was sure she was a lesbian because continuing to go back to the same place and putting herself alone with the same “rapist” 4 times without reporting it to the police seems to indicate a certain degree of willingness on her part.

Let's remember the "liberal" definition of "rape."

It's more about how they "feel" afterwards, than it is about whether it was consensual.

Nevertheless, congratulations on your bullseye ;)

16 posted on 07/05/2014 4:39:22 PM PDT by papertyger (if disdain of homosexual behavior is "bigotry," is it any wonder hostility to Islam is "racism?")
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To: tumblindice

LOL! I remember that quote from high school!


17 posted on 07/05/2014 4:39:42 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: cripplecreek

I bet that she had never thought of that.


18 posted on 07/05/2014 4:40:21 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: ReformationFan

Because it empowers their number one enemy, whom they hate above all else, Christians.


19 posted on 07/05/2014 4:40:22 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: papertyger
It's more about how they "feel" afterwards, than it is about whether it was consensual.

Jullian Assange is a scumbag but the rape charges against him stem from exactly that sort of situation and the twisted laws of Denmark or where ever it was he was charged. It was consensual when he started but rape when he continued after the condom broke.
20 posted on 07/05/2014 4:45:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: ReformationFan

Umm, fascists.


21 posted on 07/05/2014 4:46:20 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: ReformationFan

They are freaked out because they are afraid they won’t be able to force people to participate in their perverted gay weddings against their will and religious conviction.


22 posted on 07/05/2014 4:47:39 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: ReformationFan
The Hobby Lobby decision was founded on the right to freely exercise one's religion. The homos are scared to death that it will be extended to mean people are free to reject homosexuality as well.

In other words, Hobby Lobby was a moral victory. And homosexuals -- as amoral a people as have ever existed -- can't have that.

23 posted on 07/05/2014 4:49:53 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: ReformationFan

Bump


24 posted on 07/05/2014 4:51:14 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: ReformationFan
That's rather queer....

/johnny

25 posted on 07/05/2014 4:53:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Steely Tom

Maybe the baker does not have to make their wedding cakes after all.


26 posted on 07/05/2014 4:56:48 PM PDT by abclily
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To: ReformationFan
Some libertarian homosexuals like University of Minnesota law professor Dale Carpenter advocate for limited religious exemptions to pro-homosexual nondiscrimination laws.

How can you be a libertarian and support ANY non-discrimination laws?

27 posted on 07/05/2014 5:01:05 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Quizas.)
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To: cripplecreek

Ouch. You’re right


28 posted on 07/05/2014 5:01:24 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: ReformationFan
Yeah, you do kinda wonder why gay activists are so het up about contraception and abortion-related measures which do not apply to their sterile (or, in another sense, septic) penetrations. This article is correct, I think, in pointing to the religious liberties ("free exercise") angle: if Christians can be upheld in refusing to cooperate with, or cater to, abortion and contraception, they're that much more likely to be upheld when they refuse to be accessories to homosexual pseudo-marriage.

There's another, underlying philosophical reason as well. They both are about coercing public acceptance of "My right to do what I want to with my body, no matter how destructive." The view of the body as a big Mister Potato Head, the features of which can be added, scrambled around, or discarded at will.

And peeling back yet another layer of the onion, you have their rejection of life, the continuation of life to another generation, and of the natural sources of life.

You'll notice that any movement that calls itself "sex-positive" is "positive" about any kind of sexual jigger-pokery --- any kink, any fetish, any time, with anyone, anything --- EXCEPT for procreative, marital, conjugal intercourse.

That last one is considered an Earth-Threatening Social Problem Urgently Requiring a Solution.

29 posted on 07/05/2014 5:02:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Cordially.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I knew it was you because of the combination of rustic dialect and the Unabridged Dictionary.


30 posted on 07/05/2014 5:03:34 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Quizas.)
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To: ReformationFan
Why are liberal 'gay' activists freaking out over a contraception case -- Hobby Lobby -- and should they be worried?

Because now that they can change their gender on their birth certificates, they'll start getting pregnant and have to start worrying about birth control....

31 posted on 07/05/2014 5:09:03 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: skeeter

Largely agree with your point except we Christians are their number two enemy. Their number one enemy is Christ Himself although they often deny this.


32 posted on 07/05/2014 5:12:44 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: boycott

no.’ they want othersnwho don’t agree with them to be forced to made to go along with them.

that’s what they get off on. that’s liberal tyranny.


33 posted on 07/05/2014 5:12:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: sphinx

That’s right. Because the government says so. Kind of like if the government criminalized hurricanes, they would never ever happen. ;)


34 posted on 07/05/2014 5:13:45 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Tax-chick

“How can you be a libertarian and support ANY non-discrimination laws?”

Excellent question for which I’ve yet to find a satisfactory answer.


35 posted on 07/05/2014 5:14:41 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Exactly. They won’t be able to force people into involuntary servitude a.k.a. slavery. I though we Americans were supposed to oppose things like that?


36 posted on 07/05/2014 5:16:51 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

If you ever hear an explanation that makes the slightest sense, let us all know.


37 posted on 07/05/2014 5:18:26 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Quizas.)
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To: ReformationFan
But why are liberal "gay" activists freaking out over the Hobby Lobby ruling?

There is a connection - a very strong one - between sodomy, artificial birth control, and abortion.

The most passionate pro-abortion advocates are the organized homosexual lobbies.

Once you "get" the connection, you will understand our situation much better.

38 posted on 07/05/2014 5:20:16 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: ReformationFan; All

Probably from the time that Constitution-ignoring socialist FDR “nuked” the Supreme Court with activist justices, Constitution-ignorant activists have been effectively exercising the adage, “the squeaky wheel gets oiled,” to encourage activist justices to continue their “creative” interpretations of the “living, breathing” Constituiton.

The problem is that since activists probably don’t know why the Constitution was made, they consequently don’t understand that their activist justice heroes are actually perverting the Constitution.

Then Obama comes along and really screws thing up, waking up patriots to the reality that the corrupt federal government is blatantly ignoring the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers. And if activist justices are lurking in FR, then they know that their clock is ticking and that they had better start covering their tracks.

But when activist justices suddenly do an about-face and start reasonably interpreting the Constitution, constitutionally clueless activists are at a loss to explain the sudden change in the Supreme Court’s behavior.


39 posted on 07/05/2014 5:20:49 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Tax-chick
If you ever hear an explanation that makes the slightest sense, let us all know

Heterosexual intercourse is the means by which the life-force is carried forward in time.

The opposite of life is death.

That's all there is to it.

40 posted on 07/05/2014 5:22:21 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: IronJack

Let the Homo’s move to Iraq if they don’t like it here.
I’m sure they will do something for them.


41 posted on 07/05/2014 5:23:06 PM PDT by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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To: Jim Noble

A friend who is a leftist intellectual feminist (her description) thinks that anything that men can have women should have. Very myopic thinking. Great deal of hate behind it.


42 posted on 07/05/2014 5:23:48 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Steely Tom

The object is to arouse the sheep...


43 posted on 07/05/2014 5:24:00 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Jim Noble

Exactly. It’s all about severing the marital act from the procreative act and obliterating all gender distinctions.


44 posted on 07/05/2014 5:26:21 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: IronJack
The homos are scared to death that it will be extended to mean people are free to reject homosexuality as well.

BS, we have that right, they want to take it away by claiming
equivalency to Racism, which perversion/pedophilia is not.

Best to weed them out before hiring to prevent some Homo-freak Judge
from getting involved.

All of this madness goes against Nature/Science and a Healthy society.

45 posted on 07/05/2014 5:26:37 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: rbg81
Unlike the Right, the Lefties often don’t have families to focus on, so they can spend that much more time on their causes.

Before the end of the Cold War, a group of leftists would hold a protest at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base on the anniversary of the Hiroshima bombing. A group of us would counter-protest.

One year we noted that the leftists had a bunch of college students in their protest. One of our group asked where were our college students. Another counter-protester replied, "Our kids got jobs." I think he had it right.

46 posted on 07/05/2014 5:36:20 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Book: Resistance to Tyranny. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: ReformationFan

I witnessed a funny incident with a prancing pansy at a store last weekend in which someone next to him in the line said “smells like someone crapped themselves” and moved away. Couldn’t help but chuckle. The guy had Bill Ayers style earrings so could have been a transvestite.


47 posted on 07/05/2014 5:43:39 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: Tax-chick

I actually DID laugh out loud! Sartin-fa-sure an’ apodictic.


48 posted on 07/05/2014 6:42:28 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Exactly. They're like the character of Strelnikov in the film "Doctor Zhivago"
49 posted on 07/05/2014 7:11:24 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: tumblindice

Wow. I’m seeing the parallels right now. MacBama. It’s actually kind of creepy.


50 posted on 07/05/2014 7:37:32 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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