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Dueling immigration rallies held in CA ("Against illegal immigration? Great! Go back to Europe!")
Yahoo! News / The Associated Press ^ | July 4, 2014 | Matt Hamilton

Posted on 07/05/2014 5:36:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

MURRIETA, Calif. (AP) — Rumors had swirled among anti-immigration activists near a U.S. Border Patrol station in Southern California that the agency would try again to bus in some of the immigrants who have flooded across the U.S.-Mexico border.

Instead, they got dueling anti- and pro-immigration rallies Friday.

The crowd of 200 outside the station in Murrieta waved signs and sometimes shouted at each other. One banner read: "Proud LEGAL American. It doesn't work any other way." Another countered: "Against illegal immigration? Great! Go back to Europe!"(continued)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; california; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration; murrieta; obama
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Something's got to give!
1 posted on 07/05/2014 5:36:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Only an enemy combatant would refuse to acknowledge the difference between legal and illegal immigration.
2 posted on 07/05/2014 5:38:13 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was not born in Europe and these scum illegals were not born here.

So they need to be deported to where they came from.


3 posted on 07/05/2014 5:38:37 PM PDT by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
America was legitimately taken by Europeans as spoils of conquest.

I'm a native Texan. Anyone that wants to make me leave better bring a lunch and a lantern.

I can be killed, but I can't be moved.

/johnny

4 posted on 07/05/2014 5:40:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
("Against illegal immigration? Great! Go back to Europe!")

Well, my four Jewish grandparents came here from Russia and eastern Europe LEGALLY. And I am a NATURAL BORN NATIVE AMERICAN.

So the analogy is pretty stupid.

5 posted on 07/05/2014 5:43:35 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they have to go back to Europe, so do the Mexicans


6 posted on 07/05/2014 5:44:04 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They said they were afraid the immigrants would take jobs and resources from U.S. citizens.

It's worse than that. They're going to be on welfare. American citizens will be working for them.

7 posted on 07/05/2014 5:44:39 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG

These idiot liberals don’t realize what all this gonna eventually cost them......They are just plain stupid.....


8 posted on 07/05/2014 5:47:13 PM PDT by JW1949
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

look at their signs- evidently they are planning something on October 14th, 2014...time to mobilize, counter protest and get ready to Freep!!!


9 posted on 07/05/2014 5:48:49 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The out of town rent-a-mob vs local residents.
Send the invaders to San Francisco.


10 posted on 07/05/2014 5:49:55 PM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tell you what:
“If we have to go back whence we cane then the little brown people advocating on behalf of the other brown will have to go back as well and that might be so happy a place as Spain or Portugal.

many of the Spaniards who came and bred brown people were partly Moorish or some Arab element was contained in their blood.

maybe if we leave, so do you and you end up in Morroco or Libya.

If I go back, it’s either Germany or Ireland.

I am asset, you are an ass.


11 posted on 07/05/2014 5:53:48 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: JW1949
I think the blacks see the threat from illegals, but still vote Democrat for racial reasons.

The limousine liberals don't bear the direct brunt of illegal immigration. They may even benefit from the cheap domestic labor.

As for the other Democrats, it's an irrational religion they're following, like believing in manmade global warming.

12 posted on 07/05/2014 5:54:26 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: JRandomFreeper
America was legitimately taken by Europeans as spoils of conquest.

By that logic this invasion looks set to accomplish the same thing.

13 posted on 07/05/2014 5:54:58 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: Vendome

The Greeks get Asia Minor back.


14 posted on 07/05/2014 5:55:45 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: JW1949

The liberal communists know exactly what they are doing. The pro amnesty group that push for this illegal invasion know that this is the way to eliminate the conservatives in this country so they can implement their socialist ideas of tyranny. These are their future socialist voters that will demand and force the true Americans into poverty and oppression. Just look at the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia. Through the illegals along with the communist party USA, they are usurping this country without a shot. They gave us the idiot imposter who occupying the oval office.


15 posted on 07/05/2014 6:00:22 PM PDT by grcuster
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To: JW1949
These idiot liberals don’t realize what all this gonna eventually cost them......They are just plain stupid.....

Interesting psychology though. The libs like to feel good about their generosity and being superior to mean conservatives.

Short-term it's at other people's expense. Long-term they ignore since it doesn't affect them today.

16 posted on 07/05/2014 6:03:02 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG

OMG!

lol

Clever....


17 posted on 07/05/2014 6:04:15 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: JW1949; MUDDOG

Not really, these libtards think long term about future DNC-asses becoming voters and nothing else. Keeping the power over people is their goal!!!


18 posted on 07/05/2014 6:05:49 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Okay - send the Mexicans back to Spain. And the Indians in America back to Mongolia.


19 posted on 07/05/2014 6:06:32 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: Vendome

The Greeks almost got western Asia Minor and Constantinople back after WWI, but the Brits wouldn’t support them at the crucial time, and the Turks rallied under Ataturk and drove the Greeks back out.


20 posted on 07/05/2014 6:08:29 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: grcuster
Just look at the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia. Through the illegals along with the communist party USA, they are usurping this country without a shot.

Their coming out of Texas and ya blame CA?

Maybe those in Texas should stop them from being shipped out of Texas to all points?

Did ya see anyone in Texas blocking the buses slick?

21 posted on 07/05/2014 6:08:33 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many of these idiots have ‘Conquistador’ Spandiard blood?


22 posted on 07/05/2014 6:10:22 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: danamco

I agree, that definitely enters into the thinking of the Dem leadership.


23 posted on 07/05/2014 6:10:54 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Carry_Okie
Being set, and getting it accomplished are two different things.

/johnny

24 posted on 07/05/2014 6:16:05 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: danamco

Keeping power over the people is understood, but the rank and file liberals haven’t the power...Their masters hold the power.....and it is also over them as well....
It will be as bad for them as for conservatives when the final takeover is accomplished...They just don’t realize it...


25 posted on 07/05/2014 6:17:10 PM PDT by JW1949
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hey,Pedro....my ancestors came legally.And when they arrived they learned the language.And they supported themselves.And they never stole anyone's identity.And they served in the Armed Forces.And they paid taxes.And they never sold drugs,or robbed,or assaulted.They,along with millions of other immigrants from Europe (and elsewhere) helped make this country great.

You,Pedro (and your fellow expletive deleteds),are criminal parasites.Go home.Go home NOW!

26 posted on 07/05/2014 6:17:30 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Against illegal immigration? Great! Go back to Europe!"

This actually makes sense to really ignorant and stupid foreign criminals.
Omugabe's version of the smartest and most skilled...

Legal immigrants can just shake their heads and go about their business. Specially real, honest naturalized citizens who speak and understand English perfectly and have no need to represent illegal criminals as neighborhood activists.

27 posted on 07/05/2014 6:18:36 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: dforest

I’ll go back to Ireland if they go back to Spain.

Do they think we’re all idiots?

.


28 posted on 07/05/2014 6:19:11 PM PDT by Mears
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
all these clowns in favor of turning out country into a third world mess should be in favor of letting these folks move in with them.
29 posted on 07/05/2014 6:20:22 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: MUDDOG
The Greeks get Asia Minor back.

Native Americans, back to Asia and Siberia...

30 posted on 07/05/2014 6:22:08 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: Mears

I’ll go back to Virginia :)


31 posted on 07/05/2014 6:25:31 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: publius911
And there's a lot of room in Siberia.

No welfare though.

32 posted on 07/05/2014 6:26:17 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Mears
I’ll go back to Ireland if they go back to Spain.

I got dibs on Blarney Castle.

33 posted on 07/05/2014 6:27:50 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Viennacon

Now wait just a minute here, didn’t some of the South American tribes come over the Bering sea land bridge from Siberia? And weren’t there some that came across the Pacific in a boat made of reeds or was that just a make believe book? LOL

So then some go to Russia, some to Portugal, some to a few islands in the Pacific, and some to Spain. How are we gonna divey em all up?


34 posted on 07/05/2014 6:36:30 PM PDT by biff (WAS)
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To: MUDDOG

“I got dibs on Blarney Castle. “


I’m a city gal-—I’ll take Dublin 4.

.


35 posted on 07/05/2014 6:47:52 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Viennacon

Exactly, someone should have told that to my great grandma who happens to be a Spaniard. Many Mexicans think they are pure Mexicans which they are not. Many have European Blood. Mexicans with White Skin are discriminatory against Darker Skin Mexicans. I recall as a little girl seeing at the Zocalo (Mexico City Federal District) an elderly woman dressed in indigenous native dress. I could tell that she was from a very small rural villages. Everyone ignored her but as a child I have not forgotten the expression on her face sitting on the pavement asking for help. I then realize there were 2 worlds in Mexico. Yet many Mexicans claims they love their people. Yea like Obama loves the United States.


36 posted on 07/05/2014 7:20:15 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: Vendome

“many of the Spaniards who came and bred brown people were partly Moorish or some Arab element was contained in their blood.”

No wonder this classmate of mines back in the early 90’s. She was from the Middle East. She told me that Mexicans and her people were family. I was at the time “WTF!”. Now it is making sense.


37 posted on 07/05/2014 7:23:38 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think it’s time for Mexico to cough up another California.


38 posted on 07/05/2014 7:33:36 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement. xtr)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yes. When a sizable percent of the population come to idiotic conclusion like this, when the readily side with third world invaders over their neighbors, coworkers, ans family, and when they won't be swayed by reason, then it's time to part ways.
39 posted on 07/05/2014 7:37:54 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Liz

OK so we all can identify the teams without a valid program..

1. The PRO-IMMIGRATION team..

Team colors Red, White and Blue

Team players, the home team, American citizens and others who adhere to the immigration laws of the United States of America

Team objective, to keep the boundaries of the playing field for the home team and invited guests alone

2. The ANTI-IMMIGRATION team

Team colors everything else

Team players, the away team, non-American citizens who are illegal aliens by choice, and their team booster club

Team objective, to penetrate the boundaries of the playing field belonging to the home team by any means, and break all game rules.


40 posted on 07/05/2014 7:38:29 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Viennacon
If they have to go back to Europe, so do the Mexicans

Well, the Spanish parts of them, anyway.

41 posted on 07/05/2014 7:39:21 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Patriot Babe

Yep. Anytime you hear Andalucia or Moors you are in the presence of an Arab.

I have a friend proudly proclaim her Moorish heritage.

I laughed and asked if she had any desire to visit Mecca.

She slips every once in a while and I’ve taken to asking if she is comfortable with the concept of walking everywhere and dressed in a cadaver bag.

Blah blah blah....


42 posted on 07/05/2014 7:41:24 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ask the Indians (or even Spain) how well open borders worked for them against “invading hordes”...

PS Mexico is not so tolerant of the brown people from their own Southern border...


43 posted on 07/05/2014 7:47:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: JRandomFreeper

What law dif early immigrants break?


44 posted on 07/05/2014 7:48:12 PM PDT by amihow
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But wait!
I thought Ca had a fence!


45 posted on 07/05/2014 8:06:54 PM PDT by mylife
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Mexicans belong in Mexico... NOT in Spain...


46 posted on 07/05/2014 8:11:05 PM PDT by GOPJ (Why no outrage over IRS targeting? Same reason Pravda didn't make a stink about gulags.FREnterprise)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The True History of the Southwest,” by Matthew Bracken, 2014

The fallacies surrounding the history of the Southwest are staggering, chief among them the “Aztlan” fairy tales. What is the truth? How did the Spanish Europeans conquer the Southwest? The “conquistadores” (that means “conquerors”) did it with the lance, and the lash.

For example, in 1541 Coronado entered present-day New Mexico (which included present-day Arizona during the Spanish era) searching for the “lost cities of gold.” One of his first actions upon meeting the natives was to burn hundreds of them alive in their dwellings for not handing over suspected horse thieves. That is how Spain conquered the natives of the present US Southwest—not with hugs and kisses. It was certainly no love-fest between long-lost brown-skinned soul-mates, as it is often portrayed today by the delusional Aztlaners, who spin the “new bronze race of Mestizos” toro-mierda fable.

By 1821, Mexico City was strong enough to overthrow the even more decrepit and ineffectual Spanish colonial rule. However, the distant provinces of the current U.S. Southwest were far beyond the reach of the authority of the independent but strife-torn and financially insolvent newborn government in Mexico City. These distant northern provinces received neither military protection nor needed levels of trade from the nascent Mexican government. Under Spanish colonial rule, trade with the USA was forbidden, but at least Spain provided trade and Army protection from hostile Indian attacks. Under Mexican abandonment and neglect, the Southwest received neither trade nor protection from Mexico City.

For example, Comanches and Apaches ran rampant in the 1830s in the power vacuum created by Mexican neglect, burning scores of major ranches that had been active for hundreds of years and massacring their inhabitants. Mexico City could neither defend nor keep the allegiance of its nominal subjects in these regions. Nor did it provide needed levels of trade to sustain the prior Spanish colonial era standard of living. Mexican governmental influence atrophied, withered and died at the same time that American pathfinders were opening up new routes into the region.

Increasingly, a growing United States of America was making inroads into the Southwest, via ships into California, and via wagon trains of trade goods over the Santa Fe Trail from St. Louis. The standard of living of the Spanish inhabitants of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas subsequently increased enormously, which is why they did not support Mexico City in the 1846-48 war. In fact, the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of the Southwest never considered themselves “Mexicans” at all, ever. They went, in their own eyes, from Spanish directly to American. To this very day, if you want a punch in the nose, just call a Hispanic native of New Mexico a “Mexican.”

So how long did these self-proclaimed (but newborn), free and independent Mexican governments have even nominal jurisdiction over the American Southwest? For only 25 years, during which time they had no effective control, and the area slipped backwards by every measure until the arrival of the Americans. The Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest never transferred their loyalty from Madrid to Mexico City, because all they received from the chaotic Mexican governments was misrule, neglect, and unchecked Indian raids.

Since then, how long has the area been under firm American control? For over 160 continuous years, during which time the former Spanish inhabitants of the region, (all the while full American citizens), have prospered beyond the wildest dreams of the Mexicans still stuck in Mexico. To compare the infrastructure, roads, schools, hospitals etc. of the two regions is to understand the truth. The Mexican government has been mired in endemic graft, corruption, nepotism and chaos from the very start until today. The ordinary Mexican peons have been trampled and abused, while only the super-rich elites have thrived. This is why millions of Mexicans want to escape from Mexico today, to enjoy the benefits of living in America that they can never hope to obtain in Mexico.

And because today Mexico is a corrupt third-world pest-hole (despite having more millionaires and billionaires than Great Britain), we are supposed to let any number of Mexicans from Chiapas, Michoacán or Yucatan march into the American Southwest, and make some “historical claim” of a right to live there? From where does this absurd idea spring?

At what point in history did Indians and Mestizos from Zacatecas or Durango stake a claim on the American Southwest? (2014 update: Add the citizens of Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and any other nation who can reach our unguarded border.) Neither they nor their ancestors ever lived for one single day in the American Southwest. The Spanish living in the Southwest in 1846 stayed there, and became Americans by the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. There were no Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest who were marched to the border and driven into Mexico. It didn’t happen. The Spanish in the Southwest welcomed American citizenship, which brought stability, protection from Indian raids, and a vast increase in their standard of living with the increase in trade with America.

In summary, no current inhabitants of Mexico (or Guatemala, etc.) have a claim on even one single inch of the American Southwest. Not one single citizen of Mexico is sneaking into the United States to reclaim property their ancestors were deprived of. Not one. They are criminal invaders and colonizers, pure and simple.

It’s time Americans learned the true history of our Southwest, as a counter to the currently prevalent “Aztlan” fairy tales put out by “La Raza” (The Race), “the Brown Berets of Aztlan,” “MEChA” (the Student Movement for Aztlan, whose very symbol is a lit “mecha” or fuse on a dynamite bomb), and other radical (and usually openly communist) anti-American groups.

2014 post script: The U.S. Constitution, in Article 4, Section 4, still mandates that the executive branch—President Barack Obama—must protect the states against invasion. Instead of protecting the states from invasion, our rogue president and his gangster henchmen are now intentionally and with forethought laying open our national borders, and are encouraging and assisting the invaders.

How is this not treason?


47 posted on 07/05/2014 8:17:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; dforest; JRandomFreeper; Maceman; MUDDOG; JW1949; God luvs America; ...

A thief is NOT a guest.

A crack dealer is NOT a pharmacist.

An illegal is NOT an immigrant.


48 posted on 07/05/2014 8:18:39 PM PDT by GOPJ (Why no outrage over IRS targeting? Same reason Pravda didn't make a stink about gulags.FREnterprise)
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To: Mears
I’ll go back to Ireland if they go back to Spain.

I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree,
And a small cabin build there, of clay and wattles made.

49 posted on 07/05/2014 8:25:59 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: GOPJ

And a despot is not a president.


50 posted on 07/05/2014 8:26:55 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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