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Sheriff, feds: Rancher must be held accountable
yahoo ^ | 7/5/14 | AP, MARTIN GRIFFITH

Posted on 07/06/2014 12:00:34 AM PDT by Nachum

RENO, Nev. (AP) — U.S. Bureau of Land Management officials say they agree with a Nevada sheriff's position that rancher Cliven Bundy must be held accountable for his role in an April standoff between his supporters and the federal agency.

Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie said Bundy crossed the line when he allowed states' rights supporters, including self-proclaimed militia members, onto his property to aim guns at police.

"If you step over that line, there are consequences to those actions," Gillespie told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "And I believe they stepped over that line. No doubt about it. They need to be held accountable for it."

Bureau spokeswoman Celia Boddington, in a statement released Saturday to The Associated Press, said the agency continues to pursue the matter "aggressively through the legal system."

"There is an ongoing investigation and we are working diligently to ensure that those who broke the law are held accountable," she said, declining to elaborate.

The FBI declined comment Saturday on its investigation. Bundy did not respond to a request for comment.

The Bureau of Land Management says Bundy owes over $1 million in fees and penalties for trespassing on federal property without a permit over 20 years. Bundy, whose ancestors settled in the area in the late 1800s, refuses to acknowledge federal authority on public lands.

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1 posted on 07/06/2014 12:00:34 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Will those same people come to his aid again? This will entail 24/7 surveillance of his property to prevent a 3am no-knock arrest, communication network that’s up 24/7, and enough people.


2 posted on 07/06/2014 12:03:35 AM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a pessimist, I say plenty of negative things. Consider it a warning of sorts.)
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To: Nachum

Feds asking for someone to be accountable? That’s rich...


3 posted on 07/06/2014 12:04:55 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Nachum
Bundy owes over $1 million in fees and penalties

Because Bundy refused to sign their contract they refused to accept his money.
And the contract said they could take the land and control everything.

The Feds created this whole fiasco by their own intention. Bundy was right not to sign
and now they want heads to roll. well, to be fair, they pointed GUNS at the
Bundys first without JUST CAUSE. And Tasered/assaulted the son to boot.

Just about every Fed there was from out of state, that's the DHS way to murder.

I wish we had good pictures of Every Fed that was there and placed them
all on a special web sight for all to see what Treasonous bastards they all are.

4 posted on 07/06/2014 12:20:47 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Nachum
And another thing about that Sheriff, he needs to be fired by the residents.
And the next Sheriff needs to deputize every Bundy on that ranch, and every able
person who comes to assist.
5 posted on 07/06/2014 12:23:59 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Nachum
Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie said Bundy crossed the line when he allowed states' rights supporters, including self-proclaimed militia members, onto his property to aim guns at police.

Seems to me Mr. Bundy can have whoever he wants on his property. It is his property.

As for aiming guns at police, seems there were plenty of 'police' aiming guns, and if history is an indicator (Waco, Ruby Ridge), only the deterrent of guns aimed back kept shots from being fired.

6 posted on 07/06/2014 12:38:51 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Nachum

We’ll see who will be held accountable.

When you work for government and you concoct and carry out a scheme to trample on the rights of Americans, you best be prepared to answer for your actions.

And that goes for Harry Reid and his sons, and their designs on open public land.


7 posted on 07/06/2014 12:43:29 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Nachum

Typical sheriff...a coward politician.


8 posted on 07/06/2014 12:47:08 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
only the deterrent of guns aimed back kept shots from being fired.

That is exactly right. They did not go there for a standoff, they went there
to kill! Every Fed there was dressed in War garb to back up their killing spree.
We've seen it before and history is the record of their actions.

9 posted on 07/06/2014 12:50:56 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: MaxMax

1. Bundy says he paid his fees - to the state - who cashed the check and who still retains said funds in their treasury. To say he owes money is a lie and to say he owes more than all other ranchers combined is a bigger lie designed to provoke a negative emotional response in the public.

2. Bundy’s family was attacked by wanna-be-a-soldier-when-i-grow up thuggery. Cattle and calves were being used for target practice and run to death in a blatent show of animal cruelty. This is not the first time the BLM has brutally slaughtered rangestock. A citizen has a right to self-defense of his family and property. Sometimes that includes asking others for help.

3. Public opinion is negative towards the BLM handling of the situation. The BLM should accept it’s over, they lost, and sit down and work a deal where Bundy retains his range and his water rights. A jury of his peers will let him walk - all day long - so further pursuit of Bundy is wasted effort and taxdollars.


10 posted on 07/06/2014 1:18:34 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: MaxMax

Every one of these jackboots should have every last bit of information on them and their families published everywhere. Names, pictures, personal data, habits, etc. All the info they use against you and me. It’s time to fight fire with fire and use their tactics against them.

They all have to sleep, live somewhere, have families and be out in public at times. Put the spotlight on them. Call them on their crimes and show the damage they caused to innocents.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn


11 posted on 07/06/2014 1:22:27 AM PDT by Cololeo
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To: Nachum

Finally a government agency that believes in enforcing the law. Of
course the target of their wrath is a hard working American citizen.
Place a few hundred squatter illegal alien border stormers on
BLM land and their azzholes would pucker. Screw the BLM, IRS, DOJ,
FBI, State Dept, and (fill in the blank).


12 posted on 07/06/2014 1:35:04 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: Nachum
Stop Harry and Rory Reid and the BLM support Bundywhen tyranny becomes law rebellion becomes duty
13 posted on 07/06/2014 1:37:00 AM PDT by Fear The People (When the government fears the people, you have LIBERTY.)
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To: Nachum
FIXED

RENO, Nev. (AP) — The Bundy's say they agree with a Nevada sheriff's position that the U.S. Bureau of Land Management officials must be held accountable for their role in an April standoff between his supporters and the federal agency.

Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie said The U.S. Bureau of Land Management officials crossed the line when Bundy allowed states' rights supporters, including self-proclaimed militia members, onto his property to aim guns at police.

"If you step over that line, there are consequences to those actions," Gillespie told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "And I believe they stepped over that line. No doubt about it. They need to be held accountable for it."

Bureau spokeswoman Celia Boddington, in a statement released Saturday to The Associated Press, said the agency continues to pursue the matter "aggressively through the legal system."

"There is an ongoing investigation and we are working diligently to ensure that those who broke the law are held accountable," she said, declining to elaborate.

The FBI declined comment Saturday on its investigation. Bundy did not respond to a request for comment. Bundy says The U.S. Bureau of Land Management owes over $1 million in fees and penalties for trespassing on private property without a permit.

Bundy, whose ancestors settled in the area in the late 1800s, refuses to acknowledge federal authority on public lands.

14 posted on 07/06/2014 2:26:35 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Cololeo
"Every one of these jackboots should have every last bit of information on them and their families published everywhere. Names, pictures, personal data, habits, etc. All the info they use against you and me. It’s time to fight fire with fire and use their tactics against them.
They all have to sleep, live somewhere, have families and be out in public at times. Put the spotlight on them. Call them on their crimes and show the damage they caused to innocents."

Yup

15 posted on 07/06/2014 2:29:34 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Fear The People

Where do I get that second patch ?


16 posted on 07/06/2014 2:31:33 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Nachum

Evil Duke Reid is pulling the sheriff of Nottingham’s strings, and King Obama his, and the evil witch Valjar his and the Necromancer Sauros hers ... ...


17 posted on 07/06/2014 2:43:52 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: wastedyears
Will those same people come to his aid again? This will entail 24/7 surveillance of his property to prevent a 3am no-knock arrest, communication network that’s up 24/7, and enough people.

Unless "those...people" decide to go preemptive.

Doubtless such an action would be *after* Mr. Bundy's untimely demise, but that would be the next step in escalation.

18 posted on 07/06/2014 2:54:12 AM PDT by papertyger (if disdain of homosexual behavior is "bigotry," is it any wonder hostility to Islam is "racism?")
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To: Nachum

The people responsible are Harry Reid, the head of the BLM, and that racist bastard in the White House and his stool pigeon racist buddy Holder.


19 posted on 07/06/2014 2:55:48 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach Obama NOW.)
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To: MaxMax

One of the side stories is that historically the BLM actually helped the ranchers and the ranch owners had no problem paying them whatever the fees were.
Eventually in the late 80’s or 90’s I don’t recall the blm started getting sued by the EPA and they stated losing. That was the end of the BLM being on the side of the ranchers. They changed sides and we see the result.


20 posted on 07/06/2014 2:58:17 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Nachum
The Bureau of Land Thievery doesn't like to lose

Maybe the only reason those bastards in BLM did not shoot it out with them, is they did not want another Waco. I am sure those bastards in BLM really DID want to kill all those peasants out there in the desert. One of these days, there really will be a bloodbath. I think we are past the point where voting matters anymore.

21 posted on 07/06/2014 3:00:04 AM PDT by Mark17 (Rats and RINOs, who are destroying America, may you be screwed by the fickle finger of fate)
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To: Mark17

Time to head back to Nevada I think.

Gear up.


22 posted on 07/06/2014 3:19:54 AM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: Crazieman

Roger that. I agree with your tag line. If we are not past the point of no return, we will be soon.


23 posted on 07/06/2014 3:25:02 AM PDT by Mark17 (Rats and RINOs, who are destroying America, may you be screwed by the fickle finger of fate)
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To: blueplum
A jury of his peers will let him walk - all day long - so further pursuit of Bundy is wasted effort and tax dollars.

The Government and that corrupt Sheriff have no intention of Bundy going to trial. They want to murder him as soon as they can.

24 posted on 07/06/2014 3:26:00 AM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: knarf
Where do I get that second patch ?

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25 posted on 07/06/2014 3:34:41 AM PDT by Fear The People (When the government fears the people, you have LIBERTY.)
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To: Nachum

Love this quote. Found it quite applicable to the Bundy situation:

Victor Frankel, MD, PhD
(WWII Concentration Camp Survivor):

“The paradox is that abnormal
reactions in abnormal situations
are normal.”


26 posted on 07/06/2014 3:38:18 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: Nachum

They’ll strike again. The peasants must not be allowed to challenge their enlightened leaders.


27 posted on 07/06/2014 3:42:02 AM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: Nachum

Sheriff Yellowstreak climbing back into bed with the feds I see.


28 posted on 07/06/2014 4:10:33 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Nachum
"There is an ongoing investigation and we are working diligently to ensure that those who broke the law are held accountable," she said, declining to elaborate.

Start with D.C. - if lawmakers aren't held responsible, then they have no right to insist that the People are held responsible.

29 posted on 07/06/2014 4:10:44 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Nachum

And when the government crosses that line there are consequences as well.


30 posted on 07/06/2014 4:10:55 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Nachum

Is there a Cliven Bundy Legal Defense Fund, yet? Ultimately, the only way to stop these jack-booted thugs will be in court.


31 posted on 07/06/2014 4:13:36 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Nachum

If they can’t kill you with guns they will kill you financially.

Lawsuits, the new weapon against freedom and free speech!


32 posted on 07/06/2014 4:15:40 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Sooth2222

How is that going to happen? They own the courts and Judges.


33 posted on 07/06/2014 4:16:10 AM PDT by sport
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To: Nachum

And what about Al Sharpton?


34 posted on 07/06/2014 4:32:42 AM PDT by george123 (gesully)
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To: wastedyears
Will those same people come to his aid again? This will entail 24/7 surveillance of his property to prevent a 3am no-knock arrest, communication network that’s up 24/7, and enough people.

I really think this time they'll go after him through the courts. They'll freeze his bank accounts, eliminate his cash stream, and make it impossible for him to buy supplies for himself or his livestock or to sell any of his cattle.

35 posted on 07/06/2014 4:34:46 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: blueplum
Your point number three: In the eyes of the Feds it is not over . For a number of reasons: 1. They were embarrassed and humiliated at Bundy's by, in their eyes, the lowest of the low, ordinary Citizens, whom must be shown and put in their place. 2. Bundy will never be tried before a jury of his peers. His jury will be made up of welfare recipients, casino employees, and city and county workers. All under the control and direction of Harry Reid and the unions, which again means Harry Reid.

A Jew being tried in one of the 1930s Germany's "People's Courts" would receive a fairer trial than Bundy will get.

36 posted on 07/06/2014 4:37:04 AM PDT by sport
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To: george123

Al Sharpton is Black

Al Sharpton works for NBC

Al is therefore immune from sin

QED


37 posted on 07/06/2014 4:39:18 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Mark17

The “Voting matters” train pulled out of the station long ago.


38 posted on 07/06/2014 4:40:39 AM PDT by sport
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To: sport
2. Bundy will never be tried before a jury of his peers. His jury will be made up of welfare recipients, casino employees, and city and county workers.
FRiend, I don't believe that the feds have any intention of having a trial. Too much risk, better to solve the problem with a hot lead injection at the source. Can't let the peasants get too uppity, it's a threat to our phony-balony jobs. I find much is clarified if you view government as feather-bedding jobs program.

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39 posted on 07/06/2014 4:44:26 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (The fool is always greater than the proof.)
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To: Mark17

Maybe the only reason those bastards in BLM did not shoot it out with them, is they did not want another Waco


They didn’t fire on the protesters was because they were out numbered and had failed to secure the high ground.

They found themselves in the middle of a ‘kill zone’.

The BLM rambo cowards had never met with armed resistance before.


40 posted on 07/06/2014 4:53:30 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Mark17

They did not mind another Waco. It was the thought of their hides getting punctured that caused them to pull in their horns. They have no problem with shooting and killing human beings, in fact, they get off sexually doing it. They just do not like it when the humans are in a position to shoot back. They prefer their victims to be either kneeling or laying on their stomach with their hands bound behind them begging pleading for their lives and crying. Any resemblance between them is purely coincidental.


41 posted on 07/06/2014 4:53:36 AM PDT by sport
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To: OldMissileer

On that point, we agree.


42 posted on 07/06/2014 4:54:54 AM PDT by sport
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

"Someone's got to go to prison, Ben."

43 posted on 07/06/2014 4:58:21 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Mycroft Holmes

I can’t help but agree with you. As we speak[write] they are reviewing their actions to see where they messed up. The next time they will go in shooting or launch a drone strike.


44 posted on 07/06/2014 4:59:47 AM PDT by sport
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To: DoodleDawg
I really think this time they'll go after him through the courts. They'll freeze his bank accounts, eliminate his cash stream, and make it impossible for him to buy supplies for himself or his livestock or to sell any of his cattle.

Do these BLM a$$ holes know what happens when they back someone into a corner like that? They have no intention of taking him alive. I utterly despise these pieces of excrement, and I do not mean to insult excrement.

45 posted on 07/06/2014 4:59:57 AM PDT by Mark17 (Rats and RINOs, who are destroying America, may you be screwed by the fickle finger of fate)
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To: Hostage
Publicly, no one on the Government side will be held responsible. There may be a few ass chewings in private behind closed doors but that is as far as it will go.
46 posted on 07/06/2014 5:02:22 AM PDT by sport
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To: MaxMax

His term is up in 2014 but he won big in 2010.

SHERIFF
VOTE FOR 1

Precincts Reporting: 1176 of 1176 (100 %)

Bisch, Laurie P. 142,148 34.74 %
Gillespie, Douglas C. 267,016 65.26 %
Total 409,164


47 posted on 07/06/2014 5:08:21 AM PDT by outofsalt
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To: MaxMax

Where we are able to make it so, we need state laws that affirm the right of any citizen to run for the elected position of sheriff, regardless of law enforcement background or lack thereof.


48 posted on 07/06/2014 5:09:37 AM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement. xtr)
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To: Nachum

BLM hold yourselves accountable for bullying those you are supposed to protect


49 posted on 07/06/2014 5:13:41 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: MaxMax
Just about every Fed there was from out of state, that's the DHS way to murder.

Yep. The Chinese troops at Tienanmen Square were all from outlying provinces.

Every dictator instinctively knows that it's easier to get people to murder those other people that they don't personally identify with.

50 posted on 07/06/2014 5:22:26 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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