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McCain, Graham: Some in GOP 'Get It' on Immigration
News Max ^ | July 6 2014 | Greg Richter

Posted on 07/06/2014 12:09:17 PM PDT by PoloSec

Some members of the Republican Party do "get it" on immigration, says Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, but President Barack Obama isn't helping matters when he keeps acting alone.

Graham, appearing Sunday on "Face the Nation" with fellow Republican Sen. John McCain, said he doesn't see how the GOP can win the presidency in 2016 if it adopts self-deportation as its solution.

"Ted Cruz embraces legalization without a path to citizenship," Graham said. "Things are changing on our side."

Asked by host Bob Schieffer how they feel being part of a body and a party that won't act on immigration reform, McCain said, "We'll just continue to fight.

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"Ted Cruz embraces legalization without a path to citizenship," Graham said. "Things are changing on our side."

I'm not sure that statement is true, I hope not, my suspicion would be Graham is taking Cruz out of context or just lying...anyone know if that is the position Cruz takes, I would like to know, with link if possible.

1 posted on 07/06/2014 12:09:17 PM PDT by PoloSec
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To: PoloSec

He sounded a bit soft a couple times early on, but he’s hardened his stance since against illegal immigration.

Screw McGrahamnesty and McStain.


2 posted on 07/06/2014 12:14:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: PoloSec

So these two RINOs think that promoting lawless votes is the path to the Presidency? As history has proven, these foreigners won’t vote Republican anyway. The GOPe will just keep losing elections for REAL Americans, which they could care less about, apparently.


3 posted on 07/06/2014 12:15:39 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: PoloSec

I’ve never tired of Rush’s ditty about McCain.... Searching for the center of the left

Regardless of whatever he said here ... that was just good parody a few years back.


4 posted on 07/06/2014 12:16:21 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: PoloSec

FU McDemocrat and Grahamnesty. You worthless idiots.


5 posted on 07/06/2014 12:17:44 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: PoloSec

Do those things and illegal aliens will deport themselves and pay for the trip.

One addition to the policy is needed.


6 posted on 07/06/2014 12:19:05 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: PoloSec
MeCain, Mini-MeCain: Some in GOP 'Get It' on Immigration


7 posted on 07/06/2014 12:19:06 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: PoloSec

some in gop don’t get it on immigration-should be the title/s


8 posted on 07/06/2014 12:19:33 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: PoloSec

> “Ted Cruz embraces legalization without a path to citizenship,” Graham said.”

COMPLETE BS. GRAHAM IS A LIAR AND A LUNATIC.

Ted’s legislative amendments are viewable by anyone that cares to look. He agrees to ‘register’ illegals but views them as lawbreakers. He aims to deport them. He is not at all in support of anything that leads to citizenship or amnesty for illegal lawbreakers. He has said repeatedly that rewarding lawbreakers leads to more lawbreaking and is unfair to the law abiding.


9 posted on 07/06/2014 12:20:30 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: PoloSec

“Get it” could mean smallpox so there is hope.


10 posted on 07/06/2014 12:22:09 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: PoloSec
Delighted to see John McCain lecturing on how to win the Presidency, since he ran twice--oops! Wait a minute.

He lost both times didn't he?

vaudine

11 posted on 07/06/2014 12:22:36 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: PoloSec

Crusify every employer that hires one and they will be gone in 6 months, that includes homeowners that hire one off the street corner!


12 posted on 07/06/2014 12:27:52 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: TexasCajun

13 posted on 07/06/2014 12:28:39 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: TexasCajun
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14 posted on 07/06/2014 12:29:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: PoloSec

What exactly is it do they “get”?


15 posted on 07/06/2014 12:29:15 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: PoloSec
"Ted Cruz embraces legalization without a path to citizenship," Graham said

When did Ted Cruz ever say that?

16 posted on 07/06/2014 12:29:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: PoloSec

Most of the GOPE is not on our side.


17 posted on 07/06/2014 12:30:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: PoloSec

18 posted on 07/06/2014 12:30:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: PoloSec
This was the reaction to Obama's call for immigration "reform" at the state of the union address.

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19 posted on 07/06/2014 12:31:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: PoloSec
""Ted Cruz embraces legalization without a path to citizenship," Graham said. "Things are changing on our side."

It is true and with it Cruz eliminates himself from contention.

Even Romney had a tougher espoused position.

20 posted on 07/06/2014 12:33:48 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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21 posted on 07/06/2014 12:34:31 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: PoloSec

Apart from amnesty, what is in”immigration reform” this time? I truly don’t know.


22 posted on 07/06/2014 12:35:11 PM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: PoloSec

BTTT


23 posted on 07/06/2014 12:38:08 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (I am a proud citizen of an idea called America.)
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To: Hostage; All
"COMPLETE BS. GRAHAM IS A LIAR AND A LUNATIC."

Not correct.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/us/cruz-tries-to-claim-the-middle-ground-on-immigration.html?_r=1&

Cr4uz supports letting them st5ay and has NEVER stated he would deport or support self-deport policies.

I challenge you to substantiate any claim to the contrary.

24 posted on 07/06/2014 12:38:10 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: kevslisababy

Even more “legal” immigration to drive the high tech Americans out of their jobs.


25 posted on 07/06/2014 12:39:47 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: Mariner

You’re quoting the NY Times. They are even bigger liars than Graham The article you link to has been discussed here on FR weeks ago and was thoroughly torn apart and debunked.


26 posted on 07/06/2014 12:48:20 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: PoloSec


27 posted on 07/06/2014 12:55:03 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: Hostage; All
Debunk it again.

Cruz stated policy is to legalize those here now and seal the border...possibly allowing chain migration of family members.

He states he opposes "Amnesty" but then defines "amnesty" ONLY as allowing citizenship.

I Challenge you again, cite references that prove otherwise.

I know you cannot as none exist.

Yet for some reason you're contending that Cruz does not support "Amnesty". By that definition neither do McCain or Graham.

28 posted on 07/06/2014 12:57:38 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: cripplecreek

That sums it up. Thanks for posting.


29 posted on 07/06/2014 12:58:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Mariner

Look up his legislative amendments online. It’s all there. Do your own homework.

The fact that you quote the NY Times as some sort of authority is enough to disqualify you from any serious discussion.

Do your homework thoroughly without resorting to the NY Times who are known liars.


30 posted on 07/06/2014 1:05:45 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: PoloSec

Election’s over.

These two have stopped running to the Right and have reverted to their true RINO forms.


31 posted on 07/06/2014 1:08:51 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: PoloSec

“I’m not sure that statement is true (Cruz supporting legalization without citizenship)”

Yea, it is, or at least was, true. It actually is kind of a middle ground in that it delays the demise of the Republican Party by an extra 10 to 20 years, as those people (hopefully) will not be voting. Of course their US-born kids will, as well as the “dreamers”. The Senate Bill basically killed-off the Republican Party in 5 to 10 years, by giving citizenship to everyone that is here already.

Hopefully Cruz is informed on this now...the problem is the DEMOGRAPHICS and nothing more, if we are to survive as a two-party state. Any “solution” that doesn’t address it means the end of the Republican Party.

They NEED TO GO HOME, and then apply to come here legally, and we’ll let in an amount that we can absorb, without ruining the country in the process.


32 posted on 07/06/2014 1:09:18 PM PDT by BobL
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You choose to debate the source rather than the facts.

And the facts are that Ted Cruz would legalize those now here illegally. You cannot source a single fact to the contrary.

Not one.

33 posted on 07/06/2014 1:22:04 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: PoloSec

Graham is nuts


34 posted on 07/06/2014 1:40:21 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: Mariner

Your facts are BS and your source is BS.

You won’t get anywhere on this site with using the NY Times as a ‘fact’ reference. You also won’t get anywhere with using Graham’s statements before the press as ‘factual’.

Cease and desist your posts to me until you come back with the previous FR posts on this matter from months ago and the 5 legislative amendments that Ted Cruz submitted in the immigration reform debates.


35 posted on 07/06/2014 1:44:29 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: PoloSec

McVain and Grahamnesty both support Obama relocating those Illegal Alien kids...no one should be fooled

Anything not 100% Deportation is Amnesty


36 posted on 07/06/2014 1:45:30 PM PDT by DisorderOnBorder (Haley Barbour gave me $15 to vote)
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To: cripplecreek

The animation should get lots of play. It sums up what is wrong with the Republican party


37 posted on 07/06/2014 2:07:18 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: PoloSec

So many are trying to put the Republican Party out of business, and they may yet succeed in doing so.


38 posted on 07/06/2014 2:25:43 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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Cruz supports letting them stay and has NEVER stated he would deport or support self-deport policies. I challenge you to substantiate any claim to the contrary.

Here you go:

Ted Cruz, a Republican senatorial candidate from Texas, said Monday he thinks presidential candidate Mitt Romney should end President Barack Obama's deferred action policy, going beyond Romney's line that he doesn't need to because he'll fix the problem quickly through Congress.

Asked by Telemundo whether Romney should reinstate deportations of young people granted deferred action, Cruz said, "I do."

America's Voice reaction to the above:
If Cruz wanted to deport DREAMers, then it stands to reason that he wants to deport others. It sounds like he is for deporting as many immigrants as possible, and forbidding the few who get to stay from ever becoming citizens.

39 posted on 07/06/2014 2:26:46 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: PoloSec

Who are the most dangerous people to the Republic:

(1) Republican primary voters in Red Hampshire
(2) Republican primary voters in SC
(3) NYC Democrats
(4) San Francisco Democrats

Clearly: A


40 posted on 07/06/2014 2:27:38 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Hostage; Mariner
FYI - That NYT article originated from the Texas Tribune.
41 posted on 07/06/2014 2:32:46 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: PoloSec
What's to "get?"

The United States of America is on track to become the hemisphere's northernmost Latin American country. It is a question of, "When?" Not a matter of "if."

At the present pace, Latinos, Hispanics, or whatever you want to call the native Spanish-speaking residents of the US and their offspring and descendants, they will outnumber the rest of by 2075. At the moment, they are about 25-28% of the population, that is a pretty good guess, considering that the USGOV officially admits that their are 11 million illegals. Which means that they have no clue. (Apparently they stopped after counting LA County, because there are at least 20 million.. says me.)

Soon (2025) the Latinos will be a solid third. Good idea? Bad idea? What difference does it make? They are here. Negroes, at about 13-14% of the overall population, suffer, as they never fail to point out in every other case, the most. It shows in their outrageous unemployment numbers ... hitting 40% in some urban areas as Hispanics drive them smartly from the labor force and marketplace ... welfare departments ... public sector employment... and other traditionally black-dominated areas. Acción Affirmativa, baby. Kinda bites when it doesn't help you, does it not?

Who knows? It might even shake their faith in the gay* African Mulatto whose administration they propelled to power on the hope and change platform. I hope they can wake TF up and see that the change for them ...and everybody else ... has been for the worse. Leroy want the Obama phone? TS. José got that one ... and the white folks ain't got no mo' money fo no phones!

* Maybe they should have written in Michael Jackson, at least that queer SOB could sing and dance. This marxist scumbag can't even walk and talk at the same time.

The more ridiculous Republicans (e.g. McAnus, and The Graham Cracker) cling to the Rovian hope that eventually Nuestros Amigos del Sur are all going to become Republicans because of their "Family Values." "Catholics you know, just like the Irish, Italians, and Poles." Right. It took 150 years for 15 million of those people to get here. In the next 15 years there will be 150 million of those folks here. See the difference, John. Lindsey?

42 posted on 07/06/2014 2:33:58 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Thank you. As we see time and time again there are trolls that try and spread disinformation about Ted Cruz, our next president.

Ted Cruz is for legal immigration that greatly benefits the USA such as persons with very high IQ in areas such as physics, chemistry and mathematics as well as very high technology talents.

I view talent pools of such persons as up for grabs and the more we bring to the USA the more we stay in the technological lead. For example, if there is an Einstein in Russia, we want that person to immigrate here and give them university privileges and academic freedom to extend the boundaries of science.

If there 10 million Einstein caliber scientists in the world and 3 million are born in America, then I want us actively recruiting the other 7 million to come and enjoy the blessings of freedom here in this country. It’s called market share of talent and that is what Ted Cruz is aiming at.


43 posted on 07/06/2014 2:46:11 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: cripplecreek

"Yeah! Shake that money-maker baby! Preezy got back!"

44 posted on 07/06/2014 3:16:13 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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45 posted on 07/06/2014 3:18:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
"Asked by Telemundo whether Romney should reinstate deportations of young people granted deferred action, Cruz said, "I do."

As you well know this applies to those "youths" apprehended upon entry.

Cruz supports legal status for those illegals now living here.

46 posted on 07/06/2014 3:35:15 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Hostage

You’re deluding yourself because you’re enamored with Cruz.


47 posted on 07/06/2014 3:37:18 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Hostage
Additionally, two well-known Amnesty advocates in the GOP charge on nationwide TV, watched by at least 25mil and cited as reference by publications with an audience of another 50mil... that Ted Cruz supports the legalization of those now here illegally.

And NO RESPONSE from Cruz, a prospective GOP candidate in 2016?

48 posted on 07/06/2014 3:42:01 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

CBS Face The Nation has a viewership of “at least 25 million”? Is that so?

More like 2.5 million:
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/category/sunday-shows

And the 50 Million for the NY Times and others?

Not even close:
http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/211994/new-york-times-passes-usa-today-in-daily-circulation/

Now who is delusional?

I told you before to cease your postings to me unless you came back with real facts from the congressional website and from past discussions on FR of Ted Cruz and his position on immigration reform.

Now that I can see you coming back with grossly exaggerated media numbers and claims that I am self-deluded, I can see there is no value and no point in having you post to me at all.

CEASE AND DESIST FROM POSTING TO ME.


49 posted on 07/06/2014 4:41:55 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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Rand Paul's immigration speech
...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform
Latinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...
[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]

50 posted on 07/06/2014 6:15:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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