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Does Something Seem Fishy To You In This List of Govít Agency Workers Earning More Than $180,000?
Independent Journal Review ^ | July 26 2014 | Michael Hausam

Posted on 07/06/2014 1:21:43 PM PDT by PoloSec

The Office of Personnel Management maintains a list of the amount of civilian workers that each branch of the government has, in addition to their salary amounts. Although it does not mention individuals by name nor their positions, the numbers are quite surprising when the data is adjusted for an annual income of $180,000 or more.

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Some facts to consider:

  1. There are 25,356 government agency workers earning $180,000 or more.
  2. 18,709 of those workers at at the Department of Veteran Affairs (5% of workforce).
  3. 2,355 are at the Department of Health and Human Services (3% of workforce).
  4. 1,605 are at the Department of Transportation (3% of workforce).

Note again that this list is of civilian workers — no members of the military are included; neither does it include the Judiciary Branch or congressional staff. By way of contrast, the percentage of those earning more than $180,000 at the Department of Defense, the largest agency of the government, is just under 1/2%.

Historically, the idea of working for the government included a trade off of sorts: a reduction in income relative to private industry in exchange for increased job security and benefits. It seems as though that reality has changed.

Given the scandal at the VA over wait times and patient care, one must wonder what all of these high-paid individuals are doing. One thing we do know is that the VA has paid over $200 million in wrongful death payments and an additional $645 million in medical malpractice since 2001.

A reasonable conclusion would be that these thousands of high-income individuals are doing something other than actually earning their pay.


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1 posted on 07/06/2014 1:21:43 PM PDT by PoloSec
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To: PoloSec

Our overlords deserve every penny of it and more. Attempting to run every aspect of our lives is hard work.


2 posted on 07/06/2014 1:28:58 PM PDT by all the best
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To: PoloSec

If they’re doctors treating vets I don’t mind the salary.


3 posted on 07/06/2014 1:30:20 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Open Borders, pro-terrorist, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: PoloSec

How many of the VA people were physicians? I suspect that people with MD degrees are expensive.


4 posted on 07/06/2014 1:34:24 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: PoloSec

Amazing how considering it is a drought for many american households, that so many big fish are still out there in the shady spots on ol’ Man MoneyFlow River..

Just waiting to be noodled .. For the pickin’,, but I doubt you’ll see anyone in a three piece suited crowd of DC wading in any time soon.


5 posted on 07/06/2014 1:37:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: reg45

I don’t think there are very many MDs in DOT - that’s 3% of the workforce!


6 posted on 07/06/2014 1:38:55 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: PoloSec
There used to be an old saying that your not going to get rich working for the government but the benefits are good.

Does not apply anymore.

7 posted on 07/06/2014 1:44:58 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: Ken522

Only trying to explain the high salaries in VA, no where else.


8 posted on 07/06/2014 1:45:29 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: reg45

1) In no way are there over 18 thousand docs working at the VA..so its mostly “leadership” that sit in meetings all day and can’t lead.

2)Recruiting for doctors ( especially psychiatrists)is very, very difficult for the VA because a) there is a shortage nationwide b) the VA is not competitive with the private sector.

RECOMMENDATION:
cut the VA “leadership” at all levels by 50% and hire more front line workers! No waiting lists then.


9 posted on 07/06/2014 1:45:44 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Bush won the War in Iraq, Obozo lost the peace..and gave Iraq back to the Terrorists!)
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To: Ken522

How about the EPA, Dept of NO-Education, the NO Energy Dept, the Dept of the Interior( that don’t know a cow from a turtle)and the NO justice Dept.


10 posted on 07/06/2014 1:47:39 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Bush won the War in Iraq, Obozo lost the peace..and gave Iraq back to the Terrorists!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Mostly Agreed, but I think 90% is a better number.


11 posted on 07/06/2014 1:48:25 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: PoloSec
Yes, I am noticing something about this list.

It contains a laughably tiny number of people who, if they found themselves in the private sector, could actually produce as much as $18,000.00 per year of output, never mind $180,000.
12 posted on 07/06/2014 1:48:33 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: PoloSec
Does Something Seem Fishy To You In This List of Gov’t Agency Workers Earning More Than $180,000?...you mean beyond the fact that none of them could probably earn a quarter that much in the private sector?.....
13 posted on 07/06/2014 1:48:46 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: PoloSec
If the salary ranges have not been provided elsewhere here's the GS and SES. Not appointees as far as I know.

links to senior executive service salaries

links to GS salaries by location

Probably the professional journeyman level in the D.C. area is GS-14

14 posted on 07/06/2014 1:48:51 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: PoloSec

How else would Obama keep them Obeying his Orders


15 posted on 07/06/2014 1:52:53 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: morphing libertarian
If they’re doctors treating vets I don’t mind the salary.

You beat me to it. I was guessing that is the case.

16 posted on 07/06/2014 1:54:01 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: PoloSec

DOT = Air Traffic Controllers.

They earn their keep.


17 posted on 07/06/2014 1:56:40 PM PDT by bakeneko
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

The reality this demonstrates is the explosion in the SES ranks. The DOT numbers probably account for the number of SES in the FAA. In the VA you not only capture some medical staff, but the management in the medical facilities. Many of those in management are responsible for the VA scandal as they directed the falsification of numbers in order to trigger bonuses for themselves.


18 posted on 07/06/2014 1:59:31 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: PoloSec

Loyal government workers would kickback 75% of their salaries to support the party and the cause.


19 posted on 07/06/2014 2:14:13 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: PoloSec

My attitude? If you’re getting a government paycheck and you’re not a uniformed member of the Armed Forces you’re very probably my enemy.Either an enemy of my wallet or my freedoms.


20 posted on 07/06/2014 2:14:32 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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