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Why Congress Must Reopen the TWA 800 Investigation
The American Thinker ^ | 7-7-14 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 07/07/2014 4:22:18 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

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To: wrench
"I am a retired airline mechanic...I can say with 100% confidence the 'center fuel tank explosion' is ...pure bullshit."

As I am a retired ATCS with direct experience in airborne fuel tank explosions, with the requisite bodies, I can assure you that YOU are full of BS.

61 posted on 07/07/2014 7:21:37 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: sport

“Also, not one member of the Clinton Administration was prosecuted for the crimes they committed while a member of the Clinton Administration. That was when I accepted the fact that the republicans and Democrats were cut from the same bolt of cloth and were in cahoots.”

George H.W. Bush and wife Barbara pal around with the Clintons. Despite all of the nasty things Barack Obama said about his son George W., the senior Bush goes out of his way to show respect to Obama:

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Bush-greets-Obama-at-Houston-airport-5389200.php

Jeb Bush, George H.W. Bush and Barack Obama had a meeting at the White House in 2012 that wasn’t on Obama’s calendar and wasn’t publicized until after the fact.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/01/obama-hosts-george-hw-and-jeb-bush-at-white-house-112638.html

The elites stick together.


62 posted on 07/07/2014 7:32:32 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Soul of the South

May I amend my response # 20 to you to read “Are in cahoots”?


63 posted on 07/07/2014 7:51:32 AM PDT by sport
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Bttt.

5.56mm

64 posted on 07/07/2014 7:54:27 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Lower Deck

Source: Active Duty Navy - verbal

Was supposed to have been an inert round.
Propulsion w no HE.

I’m a former 463 from the days of SAC, and insisted there was no way those live nukes could have made it from N. Dakota to Barksdale, unnoticed....but they did.

Much has changed from the days of Military discipline.


65 posted on 07/07/2014 8:05:19 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: diogenes ghost

ATSC? What FAA certs does that cover?

Please name just ONE transport cat aircraft that exploded after take off due to the APU running on a tarmac in summer temps.

Hint: the answer is NONE, otherwise there wouls be NO airline departures in summer months in daylight hours.

Nice disinfo attempt.....


66 posted on 07/07/2014 8:27:44 AM PDT by wrench
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To: wrench

I could never figure out why Boeing would roll over for the fuel tank explosion theory, since then they would be liable. Of course billions in defense contracts would be at stake. Who paid the liability judgements? Boeing or a quid pro quo from the Treasury?


67 posted on 07/07/2014 9:07:45 AM PDT by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: G Larry
Source: Active Duty Navy - verbal

Yes, well I heard a lot of fantastic stories when I was in the military as well.

Was supposed to have been an inert round.
Propulsion w no HE.

Oh and that makes it all better? Fire an inert missile into an civilian air traffic and what could possibly go wrong? </sarcasm>

You are still saying that the U.S. Navy used civilian air traffic for target practice. What possible reason could they have had for that?

68 posted on 07/07/2014 9:08:51 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Lower Deck

“You are still saying....”

Oh, really?

Where did I say that?

TWA 800 was NOT “targetted”, it was an accident.

And, this was NOT a “fantastic story”.


69 posted on 07/07/2014 9:35:24 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Alberta's Child
...it was most likely an errant missile fired by a U.S. naval vessel (or a naval vessel of another NATO country, which would offer a stronger explanation about the need to cover it up) conducting exercises off the south shore of Long Island that night. But there was not a single God fearing, Christian sailor aboard or in a staff position directing the operation who would have exposed the lies?
70 posted on 07/07/2014 9:49:40 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Alberta's Child
...it was most likely an errant missile fired by a U.S. naval vessel (or a naval vessel of another NATO country, which would offer a stronger explanation about the need to cover it up) conducting exercises off the south shore of Long Island that night.

But there was not a single God fearing, Christian sailor aboard or in a staff position directing the operation who would have exposed the lies?

Repaired.

71 posted on 07/07/2014 10:02:44 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: sonofagun

Senator Sheets Byrd BEFORE the senate hearing on removal of the president. “These may rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors, but I’ll not vote to remove.”


72 posted on 07/07/2014 10:10:45 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Open Borders, pro-terrorist, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: G Larry
TWA 800 was NOT “targetted”, it was an accident.

Firing missiles anywhere near civilian air traffic is not an accident, it's criminal stupidity. Something the U.S. military is not known for, at least not to that extent. What possible reason could they have for doing so?

And, this was NOT a “fantastic story”.

Depends on your point of view I guess.

73 posted on 07/07/2014 10:12:00 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Alberta's Child
There was a pretty thorough analysis of TWA Flight 800 done on FreeRepublic a while back. The strongest case was made to support the theory that IF the aircraft was brought down by a missile, it was most likely an errant missile fired by a U.S. naval vessel (or a naval vessel of another NATO country, which would offer a stronger explanation about the need to cover it up) conducting exercises off the south shore of Long Island that night.

Missiles do not go off by accident, and the U.S. military is not in the habit of conducting live fire exercises anywhere near civilian air or sea traffic. And when they do conduct those kinds of exercises the file notices to airmen far in advance warning that the exercises are occuring and where.

74 posted on 07/07/2014 10:17:02 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Lower Deck

A late reply but I got tied up.

The entire anti missile system as well as previous trials is explained in “The Downing of TWA Flight 800.” It is also mentioned, although not in as much detail, in “TWA Flight 800 and the Attack on America” by Cashill and Sanders. The former book is more readable, but I really like the second one better because it has an 18 page note listing and virtually everything in the book is sourced back to an origin.

There are actually two aspects to this story: What happened, and the cover up. What happened can still be debated, but the documented evidence of the cover-up that took place is completely damming.


75 posted on 07/07/2014 11:02:37 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name (\w)
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To: I cannot think of a name
The entire anti missile system as well as previous trials is explained in “The Downing of TWA Flight 800.” It is also mentioned, although not in as much detail, in “TWA Flight 800 and the Attack on America” by Cashill and Sanders. The former book is more readable, but I really like the second one better because it has an 18 page note listing and virtually everything in the book is sourced back to an origin.

I'm not interested in tracking down either book and spending the time reading it. How about a quick synopsis of the missile system in question?

There are actually two aspects to this story: What happened, and the cover up. What happened can still be debated, but the documented evidence of the cover-up that took place is completely damming.

I get their version of what happened - the military missile system shot it down. As for coverup, there are probably hundreds of versions of that.

76 posted on 07/07/2014 11:09:07 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Lower Deck

“I get their version of what happened - the military missile system shot it down.”

When I get home tonight I’ll did out the book and recap it for you. And NO their version of this is NOT that a military missile shot it down. Their version is that the military missile shot down a terrorist fired missile, but the intercept occurred too close to the plane and fragments blew it up. And intercepts taking place too late and fragments hitting the target, while improved, is still a problem with every missile defense system today.

And this was all kept secret because a military weapon knocked out the terrorist weapon just a little late? NO. It was kept secret because the Clintoon administration had ample warning and failed to take any action. There should have been nothing for the military to shoot at in the first place.


77 posted on 07/07/2014 11:25:36 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name (\w)
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To: G Larry; ThunderSleeps; All
This thread, and my thoughts on the subject, were starting to look vaguely familiar, so I did some research and found another thread from more than ten years ago that has a lot of information. My Post #33 at the link below contains everything I'd post here today in response to a lot of these comments:

Click Here

78 posted on 07/07/2014 11:58:23 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: Lower Deck; G Larry; All
The story as I understand it is that the missile test involved an advanced missile that was designed to track down its target using the target aircraft's radio transmissions, not its heat signature. This would explain why it's actually necessary to test the effectiveness of the weapon close to a major metropolitan area where there is a lot of background "radio noise" that would have to be overcome in order for the weapon to work effectively.
79 posted on 07/07/2014 12:02:08 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: I cannot think of a name
When I get home tonight I’ll did out the book and recap it for you. And NO their version of this is NOT that a military missile shot it down. Their version is that the military missile shot down a terrorist fired missile, but the intercept occurred too close to the plane and fragments blew it up. And intercepts taking place too late and fragments hitting the target, while improved, is still a problem with every missile defense system today.

Thanks.

80 posted on 07/07/2014 12:03:33 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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